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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    @jolly said in By the mile:

    @axtremus said in By the mile:

    @jolly said in By the mile:

    Create a special tax for electric vehicles, payable upon issuance of license tags and upon renewal of those tags.

    How would you structure that tax? One time assessment or annual assessment? Flat tax, proportional to the fair market value of the vehicle at the time of assessment, proportional to weight of the vehicle, proportional to some other characteristics of the vehicle or the owner? Would like to know what principles you use to guide your thinking of said tax.

    If it's licensed, that means the vehicle is on the road. If it is wrecked or junked, the license is not renewed. Tax is paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

    OK, paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

    What amount to pay? The same amount for every one, every electric vehicle ("flat tax"), or different amounts depending on some attributes or characteristics of the vehicle and/or the owner?

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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #20

    @axtremus said in By the mile:

    @jolly said in By the mile:

    @axtremus said in By the mile:

    @jolly said in By the mile:

    Create a special tax for electric vehicles, payable upon issuance of license tags and upon renewal of those tags.

    How would you structure that tax? One time assessment or annual assessment? Flat tax, proportional to the fair market value of the vehicle at the time of assessment, proportional to weight of the vehicle, proportional to some other characteristics of the vehicle or the owner? Would like to know what principles you use to guide your thinking of said tax.

    If it's licensed, that means the vehicle is on the road. If it is wrecked or junked, the license is not renewed. Tax is paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

    OK, paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

    What amount to pay? The same amount for every one, every electric vehicle ("flat tax"), or different amounts depending on some attributes or characteristics of the vehicle and/or the owner?

    Passenger/Delivery/Long Haul

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @axtremus said in By the mile:

      @jolly said in By the mile:

      @axtremus said in By the mile:

      @jolly said in By the mile:

      Create a special tax for electric vehicles, payable upon issuance of license tags and upon renewal of those tags.

      How would you structure that tax? One time assessment or annual assessment? Flat tax, proportional to the fair market value of the vehicle at the time of assessment, proportional to weight of the vehicle, proportional to some other characteristics of the vehicle or the owner? Would like to know what principles you use to guide your thinking of said tax.

      If it's licensed, that means the vehicle is on the road. If it is wrecked or junked, the license is not renewed. Tax is paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

      OK, paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

      What amount to pay? The same amount for every one, every electric vehicle ("flat tax"), or different amounts depending on some attributes or characteristics of the vehicle and/or the owner?

      Passenger/Delivery/Long Haul

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      Axtremus
      wrote on last edited by
      #21

      @jolly said in By the mile:

      @axtremus said in By the mile:

      @jolly said in By the mile:

      @axtremus said in By the mile:

      @jolly said in By the mile:

      Create a special tax for electric vehicles, payable upon issuance of license tags and upon renewal of those tags.

      How would you structure that tax? One time assessment or annual assessment? Flat tax, proportional to the fair market value of the vehicle at the time of assessment, proportional to weight of the vehicle, proportional to some other characteristics of the vehicle or the owner? Would like to know what principles you use to guide your thinking of said tax.

      If it's licensed, that means the vehicle is on the road. If it is wrecked or junked, the license is not renewed. Tax is paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

      OK, paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

      What amount to pay? The same amount for every one, every electric vehicle ("flat tax"), or different amounts depending on some attributes or characteristics of the vehicle and/or the owner?

      Passenger/Delivery/Long Haul

      What does “long haul” mean in this context?
      How would you map those three categories to taxes (e.g., which category should pay more than the other)?
      A sedan that seats four and a bus that seats 40 are both “passenger” vehicles. Would those two pay the same amount of tax in your proposal?

      JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        @jolly said in By the mile:

        @axtremus said in By the mile:

        @jolly said in By the mile:

        @axtremus said in By the mile:

        @jolly said in By the mile:

        Create a special tax for electric vehicles, payable upon issuance of license tags and upon renewal of those tags.

        How would you structure that tax? One time assessment or annual assessment? Flat tax, proportional to the fair market value of the vehicle at the time of assessment, proportional to weight of the vehicle, proportional to some other characteristics of the vehicle or the owner? Would like to know what principles you use to guide your thinking of said tax.

        If it's licensed, that means the vehicle is on the road. If it is wrecked or junked, the license is not renewed. Tax is paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

        OK, paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

        What amount to pay? The same amount for every one, every electric vehicle ("flat tax"), or different amounts depending on some attributes or characteristics of the vehicle and/or the owner?

        Passenger/Delivery/Long Haul

        What does “long haul” mean in this context?
        How would you map those three categories to taxes (e.g., which category should pay more than the other)?
        A sedan that seats four and a bus that seats 40 are both “passenger” vehicles. Would those two pay the same amount of tax in your proposal?

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        JollyJ Offline
        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #22

        @axtremus said in By the mile:

        @jolly said in By the mile:

        @axtremus said in By the mile:

        @jolly said in By the mile:

        @axtremus said in By the mile:

        @jolly said in By the mile:

        Create a special tax for electric vehicles, payable upon issuance of license tags and upon renewal of those tags.

        How would you structure that tax? One time assessment or annual assessment? Flat tax, proportional to the fair market value of the vehicle at the time of assessment, proportional to weight of the vehicle, proportional to some other characteristics of the vehicle or the owner? Would like to know what principles you use to guide your thinking of said tax.

        If it's licensed, that means the vehicle is on the road. If it is wrecked or junked, the license is not renewed. Tax is paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

        OK, paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

        What amount to pay? The same amount for every one, every electric vehicle ("flat tax"), or different amounts depending on some attributes or characteristics of the vehicle and/or the owner?

        Passenger/Delivery/Long Haul

        What does “long haul” mean in this context?
        How would you map those three categories to taxes (e.g., which category should pay more than the other)?
        A sedan that seats four and a bus that seats 40 are both “passenger” vehicles. Would those two pay the same amount of tax in your proposal?

        A bus is not a passenger vehicle. They aren't titled or tagged as such.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          JollyJ Offline
          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #23

          @axtremus said in By the mile:

          What does “long haul” mean in this context?

          Interstate commerce goods.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @axtremus said in By the mile:

            @jolly said in By the mile:

            @axtremus said in By the mile:

            @jolly said in By the mile:

            @axtremus said in By the mile:

            @jolly said in By the mile:

            Create a special tax for electric vehicles, payable upon issuance of license tags and upon renewal of those tags.

            How would you structure that tax? One time assessment or annual assessment? Flat tax, proportional to the fair market value of the vehicle at the time of assessment, proportional to weight of the vehicle, proportional to some other characteristics of the vehicle or the owner? Would like to know what principles you use to guide your thinking of said tax.

            If it's licensed, that means the vehicle is on the road. If it is wrecked or junked, the license is not renewed. Tax is paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

            OK, paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

            What amount to pay? The same amount for every one, every electric vehicle ("flat tax"), or different amounts depending on some attributes or characteristics of the vehicle and/or the owner?

            Passenger/Delivery/Long Haul

            What does “long haul” mean in this context?
            How would you map those three categories to taxes (e.g., which category should pay more than the other)?
            A sedan that seats four and a bus that seats 40 are both “passenger” vehicles. Would those two pay the same amount of tax in your proposal?

            A bus is not a passenger vehicle. They aren't titled or tagged as such.

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            Axtremus
            wrote on last edited by
            #24

            @jolly said in By the mile:

            @axtremus said in By the mile:

            @jolly said in By the mile:

            @axtremus said in By the mile:

            @jolly said in By the mile:

            @axtremus said in By the mile:

            @jolly said in By the mile:

            Create a special tax for electric vehicles, payable upon issuance of license tags and upon renewal of those tags.

            How would you structure that tax? One time assessment or annual assessment? Flat tax, proportional to the fair market value of the vehicle at the time of assessment, proportional to weight of the vehicle, proportional to some other characteristics of the vehicle or the owner? Would like to know what principles you use to guide your thinking of said tax.

            If it's licensed, that means the vehicle is on the road. If it is wrecked or junked, the license is not renewed. Tax is paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

            OK, paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

            What amount to pay? The same amount for every one, every electric vehicle ("flat tax"), or different amounts depending on some attributes or characteristics of the vehicle and/or the owner?

            Passenger/Delivery/Long Haul

            What does “long haul” mean in this context?
            How would you map those three categories to taxes (e.g., which category should pay more than the other)?
            A sedan that seats four and a bus that seats 40 are both “passenger” vehicles. Would those two pay the same amount of tax in your proposal?

            A bus is not a passenger vehicle. They aren't titled or tagged as such.

            So what other category do you put the bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?

            JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              @jolly said in By the mile:

              @axtremus said in By the mile:

              @jolly said in By the mile:

              @axtremus said in By the mile:

              @jolly said in By the mile:

              @axtremus said in By the mile:

              @jolly said in By the mile:

              Create a special tax for electric vehicles, payable upon issuance of license tags and upon renewal of those tags.

              How would you structure that tax? One time assessment or annual assessment? Flat tax, proportional to the fair market value of the vehicle at the time of assessment, proportional to weight of the vehicle, proportional to some other characteristics of the vehicle or the owner? Would like to know what principles you use to guide your thinking of said tax.

              If it's licensed, that means the vehicle is on the road. If it is wrecked or junked, the license is not renewed. Tax is paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

              OK, paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

              What amount to pay? The same amount for every one, every electric vehicle ("flat tax"), or different amounts depending on some attributes or characteristics of the vehicle and/or the owner?

              Passenger/Delivery/Long Haul

              What does “long haul” mean in this context?
              How would you map those three categories to taxes (e.g., which category should pay more than the other)?
              A sedan that seats four and a bus that seats 40 are both “passenger” vehicles. Would those two pay the same amount of tax in your proposal?

              A bus is not a passenger vehicle. They aren't titled or tagged as such.

              So what other category do you put the bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?

              JollyJ Offline
              JollyJ Offline
              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #25

              @axtremus said in By the mile:

              @jolly said in By the mile:

              @axtremus said in By the mile:

              @jolly said in By the mile:

              @axtremus said in By the mile:

              @jolly said in By the mile:

              @axtremus said in By the mile:

              @jolly said in By the mile:

              Create a special tax for electric vehicles, payable upon issuance of license tags and upon renewal of those tags.

              How would you structure that tax? One time assessment or annual assessment? Flat tax, proportional to the fair market value of the vehicle at the time of assessment, proportional to weight of the vehicle, proportional to some other characteristics of the vehicle or the owner? Would like to know what principles you use to guide your thinking of said tax.

              If it's licensed, that means the vehicle is on the road. If it is wrecked or junked, the license is not renewed. Tax is paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

              OK, paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

              What amount to pay? The same amount for every one, every electric vehicle ("flat tax"), or different amounts depending on some attributes or characteristics of the vehicle and/or the owner?

              Passenger/Delivery/Long Haul

              What does “long haul” mean in this context?
              How would you map those three categories to taxes (e.g., which category should pay more than the other)?
              A sedan that seats four and a bus that seats 40 are both “passenger” vehicles. Would those two pay the same amount of tax in your proposal?

              A bus is not a passenger vehicle. They aren't titled or tagged as such.

              So what other category do you put the bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?

              Depends. City bus or Greyhound?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

              AxtremusA 1 Reply Last reply
              • JollyJ Jolly

                @axtremus said in By the mile:

                @jolly said in By the mile:

                @axtremus said in By the mile:

                @jolly said in By the mile:

                @axtremus said in By the mile:

                @jolly said in By the mile:

                @axtremus said in By the mile:

                @jolly said in By the mile:

                Create a special tax for electric vehicles, payable upon issuance of license tags and upon renewal of those tags.

                How would you structure that tax? One time assessment or annual assessment? Flat tax, proportional to the fair market value of the vehicle at the time of assessment, proportional to weight of the vehicle, proportional to some other characteristics of the vehicle or the owner? Would like to know what principles you use to guide your thinking of said tax.

                If it's licensed, that means the vehicle is on the road. If it is wrecked or junked, the license is not renewed. Tax is paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

                OK, paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

                What amount to pay? The same amount for every one, every electric vehicle ("flat tax"), or different amounts depending on some attributes or characteristics of the vehicle and/or the owner?

                Passenger/Delivery/Long Haul

                What does “long haul” mean in this context?
                How would you map those three categories to taxes (e.g., which category should pay more than the other)?
                A sedan that seats four and a bus that seats 40 are both “passenger” vehicles. Would those two pay the same amount of tax in your proposal?

                A bus is not a passenger vehicle. They aren't titled or tagged as such.

                So what other category do you put the bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?

                Depends. City bus or Greyhound?

                AxtremusA Offline
                AxtremusA Offline
                Axtremus
                wrote on last edited by
                #26

                @jolly said in By the mile:

                @axtremus said in By the mile:

                @jolly said in By the mile:

                @axtremus said in By the mile:

                @jolly said in By the mile:

                @axtremus said in By the mile:

                @jolly said in By the mile:

                @axtremus said in By the mile:

                @jolly said in By the mile:

                Create a special tax for electric vehicles, payable upon issuance of license tags and upon renewal of those tags.

                How would you structure that tax? One time assessment or annual assessment? Flat tax, proportional to the fair market value of the vehicle at the time of assessment, proportional to weight of the vehicle, proportional to some other characteristics of the vehicle or the owner? Would like to know what principles you use to guide your thinking of said tax.

                If it's licensed, that means the vehicle is on the road. If it is wrecked or junked, the license is not renewed. Tax is paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

                OK, paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

                What amount to pay? The same amount for every one, every electric vehicle ("flat tax"), or different amounts depending on some attributes or characteristics of the vehicle and/or the owner?

                Passenger/Delivery/Long Haul

                What does “long haul” mean in this context?
                How would you map those three categories to taxes (e.g., which category should pay more than the other)?
                A sedan that seats four and a bus that seats 40 are both “passenger” vehicles. Would those two pay the same amount of tax in your proposal?

                A bus is not a passenger vehicle. They aren't titled or tagged as such.

                So what other category do you put the bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?

                Depends. City bus or Greyhound?

                Which category would you put the city bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?
                Which category would you put a Greyhound bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?

                JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  @jolly said in By the mile:

                  @axtremus said in By the mile:

                  @jolly said in By the mile:

                  @axtremus said in By the mile:

                  @jolly said in By the mile:

                  @axtremus said in By the mile:

                  @jolly said in By the mile:

                  @axtremus said in By the mile:

                  @jolly said in By the mile:

                  Create a special tax for electric vehicles, payable upon issuance of license tags and upon renewal of those tags.

                  How would you structure that tax? One time assessment or annual assessment? Flat tax, proportional to the fair market value of the vehicle at the time of assessment, proportional to weight of the vehicle, proportional to some other characteristics of the vehicle or the owner? Would like to know what principles you use to guide your thinking of said tax.

                  If it's licensed, that means the vehicle is on the road. If it is wrecked or junked, the license is not renewed. Tax is paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

                  OK, paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

                  What amount to pay? The same amount for every one, every electric vehicle ("flat tax"), or different amounts depending on some attributes or characteristics of the vehicle and/or the owner?

                  Passenger/Delivery/Long Haul

                  What does “long haul” mean in this context?
                  How would you map those three categories to taxes (e.g., which category should pay more than the other)?
                  A sedan that seats four and a bus that seats 40 are both “passenger” vehicles. Would those two pay the same amount of tax in your proposal?

                  A bus is not a passenger vehicle. They aren't titled or tagged as such.

                  So what other category do you put the bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?

                  Depends. City bus or Greyhound?

                  Which category would you put the city bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?
                  Which category would you put a Greyhound bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?

                  JollyJ Offline
                  JollyJ Offline
                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #27

                  @axtremus said in By the mile:

                  @jolly said in By the mile:

                  @axtremus said in By the mile:

                  @jolly said in By the mile:

                  @axtremus said in By the mile:

                  @jolly said in By the mile:

                  @axtremus said in By the mile:

                  @jolly said in By the mile:

                  @axtremus said in By the mile:

                  @jolly said in By the mile:

                  Create a special tax for electric vehicles, payable upon issuance of license tags and upon renewal of those tags.

                  How would you structure that tax? One time assessment or annual assessment? Flat tax, proportional to the fair market value of the vehicle at the time of assessment, proportional to weight of the vehicle, proportional to some other characteristics of the vehicle or the owner? Would like to know what principles you use to guide your thinking of said tax.

                  If it's licensed, that means the vehicle is on the road. If it is wrecked or junked, the license is not renewed. Tax is paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

                  OK, paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

                  What amount to pay? The same amount for every one, every electric vehicle ("flat tax"), or different amounts depending on some attributes or characteristics of the vehicle and/or the owner?

                  Passenger/Delivery/Long Haul

                  What does “long haul” mean in this context?
                  How would you map those three categories to taxes (e.g., which category should pay more than the other)?
                  A sedan that seats four and a bus that seats 40 are both “passenger” vehicles. Would those two pay the same amount of tax in your proposal?

                  A bus is not a passenger vehicle. They aren't titled or tagged as such.

                  So what other category do you put the bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?

                  Depends. City bus or Greyhound?

                  Which category would you put the city bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?
                  Which category would you put a Greyhound bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?

                  Ok, time to go play with yourself.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                  AxtremusA 1 Reply Last reply
                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @axtremus said in By the mile:

                    @jolly said in By the mile:

                    @axtremus said in By the mile:

                    @jolly said in By the mile:

                    @axtremus said in By the mile:

                    @jolly said in By the mile:

                    @axtremus said in By the mile:

                    @jolly said in By the mile:

                    @axtremus said in By the mile:

                    @jolly said in By the mile:

                    Create a special tax for electric vehicles, payable upon issuance of license tags and upon renewal of those tags.

                    How would you structure that tax? One time assessment or annual assessment? Flat tax, proportional to the fair market value of the vehicle at the time of assessment, proportional to weight of the vehicle, proportional to some other characteristics of the vehicle or the owner? Would like to know what principles you use to guide your thinking of said tax.

                    If it's licensed, that means the vehicle is on the road. If it is wrecked or junked, the license is not renewed. Tax is paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

                    OK, paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

                    What amount to pay? The same amount for every one, every electric vehicle ("flat tax"), or different amounts depending on some attributes or characteristics of the vehicle and/or the owner?

                    Passenger/Delivery/Long Haul

                    What does “long haul” mean in this context?
                    How would you map those three categories to taxes (e.g., which category should pay more than the other)?
                    A sedan that seats four and a bus that seats 40 are both “passenger” vehicles. Would those two pay the same amount of tax in your proposal?

                    A bus is not a passenger vehicle. They aren't titled or tagged as such.

                    So what other category do you put the bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?

                    Depends. City bus or Greyhound?

                    Which category would you put the city bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?
                    Which category would you put a Greyhound bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?

                    Ok, time to go play with yourself.

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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #28

                    @jolly said in By the mile:

                    @axtremus said in By the mile:

                    @jolly said in By the mile:

                    @axtremus said in By the mile:

                    @jolly said in By the mile:

                    @axtremus said in By the mile:

                    @jolly said in By the mile:

                    @axtremus said in By the mile:

                    @jolly said in By the mile:

                    @axtremus said in By the mile:

                    @jolly said in By the mile:

                    Create a special tax for electric vehicles, payable upon issuance of license tags and upon renewal of those tags.

                    How would you structure that tax? One time assessment or annual assessment? Flat tax, proportional to the fair market value of the vehicle at the time of assessment, proportional to weight of the vehicle, proportional to some other characteristics of the vehicle or the owner? Would like to know what principles you use to guide your thinking of said tax.

                    If it's licensed, that means the vehicle is on the road. If it is wrecked or junked, the license is not renewed. Tax is paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

                    OK, paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

                    What amount to pay? The same amount for every one, every electric vehicle ("flat tax"), or different amounts depending on some attributes or characteristics of the vehicle and/or the owner?

                    Passenger/Delivery/Long Haul

                    What does “long haul” mean in this context?
                    How would you map those three categories to taxes (e.g., which category should pay more than the other)?
                    A sedan that seats four and a bus that seats 40 are both “passenger” vehicles. Would those two pay the same amount of tax in your proposal?

                    A bus is not a passenger vehicle. They aren't titled or tagged as such.

                    So what other category do you put the bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?

                    Depends. City bus or Greyhound?

                    Which category would you put the city bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?
                    Which category would you put a Greyhound bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?

                    Ok, time to go play with yourself.

                    I’m doing you a solid trying to help you sharpen your critical thinking skills, my friend. I guess we have reached your limits for today. I hope you learnt something anyway. 🙂

                    JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      @jolly said in By the mile:

                      @axtremus said in By the mile:

                      @jolly said in By the mile:

                      @axtremus said in By the mile:

                      @jolly said in By the mile:

                      @axtremus said in By the mile:

                      @jolly said in By the mile:

                      @axtremus said in By the mile:

                      @jolly said in By the mile:

                      @axtremus said in By the mile:

                      @jolly said in By the mile:

                      Create a special tax for electric vehicles, payable upon issuance of license tags and upon renewal of those tags.

                      How would you structure that tax? One time assessment or annual assessment? Flat tax, proportional to the fair market value of the vehicle at the time of assessment, proportional to weight of the vehicle, proportional to some other characteristics of the vehicle or the owner? Would like to know what principles you use to guide your thinking of said tax.

                      If it's licensed, that means the vehicle is on the road. If it is wrecked or junked, the license is not renewed. Tax is paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

                      OK, paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

                      What amount to pay? The same amount for every one, every electric vehicle ("flat tax"), or different amounts depending on some attributes or characteristics of the vehicle and/or the owner?

                      Passenger/Delivery/Long Haul

                      What does “long haul” mean in this context?
                      How would you map those three categories to taxes (e.g., which category should pay more than the other)?
                      A sedan that seats four and a bus that seats 40 are both “passenger” vehicles. Would those two pay the same amount of tax in your proposal?

                      A bus is not a passenger vehicle. They aren't titled or tagged as such.

                      So what other category do you put the bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?

                      Depends. City bus or Greyhound?

                      Which category would you put the city bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?
                      Which category would you put a Greyhound bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?

                      Ok, time to go play with yourself.

                      I’m doing you a solid trying to help you sharpen your critical thinking skills, my friend. I guess we have reached your limits for today. I hope you learnt something anyway. 🙂

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                      @axtremus said in By the mile:

                      @jolly said in By the mile:

                      @axtremus said in By the mile:

                      @jolly said in By the mile:

                      @axtremus said in By the mile:

                      @jolly said in By the mile:

                      @axtremus said in By the mile:

                      @jolly said in By the mile:

                      @axtremus said in By the mile:

                      @jolly said in By the mile:

                      @axtremus said in By the mile:

                      @jolly said in By the mile:

                      Create a special tax for electric vehicles, payable upon issuance of license tags and upon renewal of those tags.

                      How would you structure that tax? One time assessment or annual assessment? Flat tax, proportional to the fair market value of the vehicle at the time of assessment, proportional to weight of the vehicle, proportional to some other characteristics of the vehicle or the owner? Would like to know what principles you use to guide your thinking of said tax.

                      If it's licensed, that means the vehicle is on the road. If it is wrecked or junked, the license is not renewed. Tax is paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

                      OK, paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

                      What amount to pay? The same amount for every one, every electric vehicle ("flat tax"), or different amounts depending on some attributes or characteristics of the vehicle and/or the owner?

                      Passenger/Delivery/Long Haul

                      What does “long haul” mean in this context?
                      How would you map those three categories to taxes (e.g., which category should pay more than the other)?
                      A sedan that seats four and a bus that seats 40 are both “passenger” vehicles. Would those two pay the same amount of tax in your proposal?

                      A bus is not a passenger vehicle. They aren't titled or tagged as such.

                      So what other category do you put the bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?

                      Depends. City bus or Greyhound?

                      Which category would you put the city bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?
                      Which category would you put a Greyhound bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?

                      Ok, time to go play with yourself.

                      I’m doing you a solid trying to help you sharpen your critical thinking skills, my friend. I guess we have reached your limits for today. I hope you learnt something anyway. 🙂

                      No, I gave you a simple solution. Sorry if you are unable to comprehend simple.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Secondly, I once put you on ignore for over a year.

                        It may be time to do so again.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @axtremus said in By the mile:

                          @jolly said in By the mile:

                          @axtremus said in By the mile:

                          @jolly said in By the mile:

                          @axtremus said in By the mile:

                          @jolly said in By the mile:

                          @axtremus said in By the mile:

                          @jolly said in By the mile:

                          @axtremus said in By the mile:

                          @jolly said in By the mile:

                          @axtremus said in By the mile:

                          @jolly said in By the mile:

                          Create a special tax for electric vehicles, payable upon issuance of license tags and upon renewal of those tags.

                          How would you structure that tax? One time assessment or annual assessment? Flat tax, proportional to the fair market value of the vehicle at the time of assessment, proportional to weight of the vehicle, proportional to some other characteristics of the vehicle or the owner? Would like to know what principles you use to guide your thinking of said tax.

                          If it's licensed, that means the vehicle is on the road. If it is wrecked or junked, the license is not renewed. Tax is paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

                          OK, paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

                          What amount to pay? The same amount for every one, every electric vehicle ("flat tax"), or different amounts depending on some attributes or characteristics of the vehicle and/or the owner?

                          Passenger/Delivery/Long Haul

                          What does “long haul” mean in this context?
                          How would you map those three categories to taxes (e.g., which category should pay more than the other)?
                          A sedan that seats four and a bus that seats 40 are both “passenger” vehicles. Would those two pay the same amount of tax in your proposal?

                          A bus is not a passenger vehicle. They aren't titled or tagged as such.

                          So what other category do you put the bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?

                          Depends. City bus or Greyhound?

                          Which category would you put the city bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?
                          Which category would you put a Greyhound bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?

                          Ok, time to go play with yourself.

                          I’m doing you a solid trying to help you sharpen your critical thinking skills, my friend. I guess we have reached your limits for today. I hope you learnt something anyway. 🙂

                          No, I gave you a simple solution. Sorry if you are unable to comprehend simple.

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                          @jolly said in By the mile:

                          @axtremus said in By the mile:

                          @jolly said in By the mile:

                          @axtremus said in By the mile:

                          @jolly said in By the mile:

                          @axtremus said in By the mile:

                          @jolly said in By the mile:

                          @axtremus said in By the mile:

                          @jolly said in By the mile:

                          @axtremus said in By the mile:

                          @jolly said in By the mile:

                          @axtremus said in By the mile:

                          @jolly said in By the mile:

                          Create a special tax for electric vehicles, payable upon issuance of license tags and upon renewal of those tags.

                          How would you structure that tax? One time assessment or annual assessment? Flat tax, proportional to the fair market value of the vehicle at the time of assessment, proportional to weight of the vehicle, proportional to some other characteristics of the vehicle or the owner? Would like to know what principles you use to guide your thinking of said tax.

                          If it's licensed, that means the vehicle is on the road. If it is wrecked or junked, the license is not renewed. Tax is paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

                          OK, paid upon issuance and on renewal of tags.

                          What amount to pay? The same amount for every one, every electric vehicle ("flat tax"), or different amounts depending on some attributes or characteristics of the vehicle and/or the owner?

                          Passenger/Delivery/Long Haul

                          What does “long haul” mean in this context?
                          How would you map those three categories to taxes (e.g., which category should pay more than the other)?
                          A sedan that seats four and a bus that seats 40 are both “passenger” vehicles. Would those two pay the same amount of tax in your proposal?

                          A bus is not a passenger vehicle. They aren't titled or tagged as such.

                          So what other category do you put the bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?

                          Depends. City bus or Greyhound?

                          Which category would you put the city bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?
                          Which category would you put a Greyhound bus in, “delivery” or “long haul”?

                          Ok, time to go play with yourself.

                          I’m doing you a solid trying to help you sharpen your critical thinking skills, my friend. I guess we have reached your limits for today. I hope you learnt something anyway. 🙂

                          No, I gave you a simple solution. Sorry if you are unable to comprehend simple.

                          I show you the holes in your so-called solutions.

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                            But Ax has a legitimate point. If gas taxes pretty much disappear, how do we fund the interstate and US highways?

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                            @mik said in By the mile:

                            But Ax has a legitimate point. If gas taxes pretty much disappear, how do we fund the interstate and US highways?

                            Here's a start. Vehicles regardless of how they are fueled require tires. A road tax on tires at point of sale.

                            Elbows up!

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                              @mik said in By the mile:

                              But Ax has a legitimate point. If gas taxes pretty much disappear, how do we fund the interstate and US highways?

                              Here's a start. Vehicles regardless of how they are fueled require tires. A road tax on tires at point of sale.

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                              @renauda said in By the mile:

                              @mik said in By the mile:

                              But Ax has a legitimate point. If gas taxes pretty much disappear, how do we fund the interstate and US highways?

                              Here's a start. Vehicles regardless of how they are fueled require tires. A road tax on tires at point of sale.

                              Bald tires more accidents and deaths? People hate taxes, it’s always the other guy who “should” pay.

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                              • L Loki

                                @renauda said in By the mile:

                                @mik said in By the mile:

                                But Ax has a legitimate point. If gas taxes pretty much disappear, how do we fund the interstate and US highways?

                                Here's a start. Vehicles regardless of how they are fueled require tires. A road tax on tires at point of sale.

                                Bald tires more accidents and deaths? People hate taxes, it’s always the other guy who “should” pay.

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                                @loki

                                Then take public transit.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  It’s still regressive. The gas tax, tire taxes, all hit the poor and lower middle class disproportionately harder than the upper middle class and the wealthy, especially post covid.

                                  The Brad

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                                    @loki

                                    Then take public transit.

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                                    @renauda said in By the mile:

                                    @loki

                                    Then take public transit.

                                    Good luck finding any kind of decent public transit in Perryopolis, Pennsylvania.

                                    The Brad

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      @renauda said in By the mile:

                                      @loki

                                      Then take public transit.

                                      Good luck finding any kind of decent public transit in Perryopolis, Pennsylvania.

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                                      @lufins-dad said in By the mile:

                                      @renauda said in By the mile:

                                      @loki

                                      Then take public transit.

                                      Good luck finding any kind of decent public transit in Perryopolis, Pennsylvania.

                                      What are you talking about? Dwayne will drive you anywhere you need to go, you just need to give him about a week's heads up. You need his landline number?

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                        It’s still regressive. The gas tax, tire taxes, all hit the poor and lower middle class disproportionately harder than the upper middle class and the wealthy, especially post covid.

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                                        @lufins-dad said in By the mile:

                                        It’s still regressive. The gas tax, tire taxes, all hit the poor and lower middle class disproportionately harder than the upper middle class and the wealthy, especially post covid.

                                        Am fully aware of that, however there is a cost to public infrastructure and its maintenance. The money has to come from somewhere and that somewhere is taxpayers, citizens and industry alike. Either through income taxes, levies or consumption taxes.

                                        The US has a great Interstate Highway system. It is worth the tax dollar investment to maintain and expand. Likewise I am sure there are also state and municipal roadways that are also worth the public investment as well.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          Yep. Roads are damned convenient.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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