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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    I don't really understand the fascination so many Americans seem to have with this weird fantasy. If they want to go and live in a cave, they can just do it, they don't need a war.

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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #54

    @doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:

    I don't really understand the fascination so many Americans seem to have with this weird fantasy. If they want to go and live in a cave, they can just do it, they don't need a war.

    Perhaps it started when we were chunking tea into Boston Harbor...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on last edited by
      #55

      Eh... I'm not as big on making sure that the citizenry is well-armed to defend itself from their own Government argument.

      I am very big on limiting the influence and direct impact that the Government has on your individual lives and liberties.

      I believe in requiring a license to own any firearm. I need to demonstrate maturity, knowledge, and skill to be licensed to drive a car. The same should apply to firearms. I also need to maintain the vehicle in a satisfactory and safe condition to legally be allowed to drive the vehicle, the same standards should be applied to firearms. I periodically need to renew my license to drive a vehicle, I have no qualms about the same with guns.

      As for a waiting period...Not as fond of that. If you are licensed and it is currently up to date, then no waiting period should be necessary.

      The Brad

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @renauda said in Boulder Shooting:

        @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

        What is your (collective your) defense against a repressive and tyrannical government?

        Parliamentary governance reinforced by robust institutions supporting that constitutional tradition. In short, "peace, order and good government".

        And how long does that last? It is the natural propensity for power to consolidate, and as the saying goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Man seems not to be able to help himself.

        I think Jefferson was right, in his view about an occasional revolution...

        RenaudaR Offline
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        Renauda
        wrote on last edited by Renauda
        #56

        @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

        @renauda said in Boulder Shooting:

        @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

        What is your (collective your) defense against a repressive and tyrannical government?

        Parliamentary governance reinforced by robust institutions supporting that constitutional tradition. In short, "peace, order and good government".

        And how long does that last? It is the natural propensity for power to consolidate, and as the saying goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Man seems not to be able to help himself.

        I think Jefferson was right, in his view about an occasional revolution...

        I don't share your or Jefferson's cynical republican propensity at all. There's is a lot you obviously do not understand about the institutions and traditions of parliamentary governance.

        Elbows up!

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:

          I don't really understand the fascination so many Americans seem to have with this weird fantasy. If they want to go and live in a cave, they can just do it, they don't need a war.

          Perhaps it started when we were chunking tea into Boston Harbor...

          Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on last edited by
          #57

          @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

          @doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:

          I don't really understand the fascination so many Americans seem to have with this weird fantasy. If they want to go and live in a cave, they can just do it, they don't need a war.

          Perhaps it started when we were chunking tea into Boston Harbor...

          How many times do we need to tell you?

          You. need. to. boil. the. freaking. water.

          Honestly, getting a decent cup around here is about as likely as a bunch of virgins-dressed-as-vikings overthrowing the government.

          I was only joking

          JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

            @doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:

            I don't really understand the fascination so many Americans seem to have with this weird fantasy. If they want to go and live in a cave, they can just do it, they don't need a war.

            Perhaps it started when we were chunking tea into Boston Harbor...

            How many times do we need to tell you?

            You. need. to. boil. the. freaking. water.

            Honestly, getting a decent cup around here is about as likely as a bunch of virgins-dressed-as-vikings overthrowing the government.

            JollyJ Offline
            JollyJ Offline
            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #58

            @doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:

            @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

            @doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:

            I don't really understand the fascination so many Americans seem to have with this weird fantasy. If they want to go and live in a cave, they can just do it, they don't need a war.

            Perhaps it started when we were chunking tea into Boston Harbor...

            How many times do we need to tell you?

            You. need. to. boil. the. freaking. water.

            Honestly, getting a decent cup around here is about as likely as a bunch of virgins-dressed-as-vikings overthrowing the government.

            Drink coffee. It's good for you.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • RenaudaR Renauda

              @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

              @renauda said in Boulder Shooting:

              @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

              What is your (collective your) defense against a repressive and tyrannical government?

              Parliamentary governance reinforced by robust institutions supporting that constitutional tradition. In short, "peace, order and good government".

              And how long does that last? It is the natural propensity for power to consolidate, and as the saying goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Man seems not to be able to help himself.

              I think Jefferson was right, in his view about an occasional revolution...

              I don't share your or Jefferson's cynical republican propensity at all. There's is a lot you obviously do not understand about the institutions and traditions of parliamentary governance.

              JollyJ Offline
              JollyJ Offline
              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #59

              @renauda said in Boulder Shooting:

              @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

              @renauda said in Boulder Shooting:

              @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

              What is your (collective your) defense against a repressive and tyrannical government?

              Parliamentary governance reinforced by robust institutions supporting that constitutional tradition. In short, "peace, order and good government".

              And how long does that last? It is the natural propensity for power to consolidate, and as the saying goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Man seems not to be able to help himself.

              I think Jefferson was right, in his view about an occasional revolution...

              I don't share your or Jefferson's cynical republican propensity at all. There's is a lot you obviously do not understand about the institutions and traditions of parliamentary governance.

              I admit, I'm no expert on parliamentary governance. But I think the observation still holds about men and power.

              Just look at what has happened in the U.S. post-Civil War.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:

                @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                @doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:

                I don't really understand the fascination so many Americans seem to have with this weird fantasy. If they want to go and live in a cave, they can just do it, they don't need a war.

                Perhaps it started when we were chunking tea into Boston Harbor...

                How many times do we need to tell you?

                You. need. to. boil. the. freaking. water.

                Honestly, getting a decent cup around here is about as likely as a bunch of virgins-dressed-as-vikings overthrowing the government.

                Drink coffee. It's good for you.

                Doctor PhibesD Offline
                Doctor PhibesD Offline
                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on last edited by
                #60

                @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                Drink coffee. It's good for you.

                It makes me argumentative and irritable.

                Maybe if the yanks drank more tea.....

                I was only joking

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @renauda said in Boulder Shooting:

                  @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                  @renauda said in Boulder Shooting:

                  @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                  What is your (collective your) defense against a repressive and tyrannical government?

                  Parliamentary governance reinforced by robust institutions supporting that constitutional tradition. In short, "peace, order and good government".

                  And how long does that last? It is the natural propensity for power to consolidate, and as the saying goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Man seems not to be able to help himself.

                  I think Jefferson was right, in his view about an occasional revolution...

                  I don't share your or Jefferson's cynical republican propensity at all. There's is a lot you obviously do not understand about the institutions and traditions of parliamentary governance.

                  I admit, I'm no expert on parliamentary governance. But I think the observation still holds about men and power.

                  Just look at what has happened in the U.S. post-Civil War.

                  RenaudaR Offline
                  RenaudaR Offline
                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #61

                  @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                  @renauda said in Boulder Shooting:

                  @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                  @renauda said in Boulder Shooting:

                  @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                  What is your (collective your) defense against a repressive and tyrannical government?

                  Parliamentary governance reinforced by robust institutions supporting that constitutional tradition. In short, "peace, order and good government".

                  And how long does that last? It is the natural propensity for power to consolidate, and as the saying goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Man seems not to be able to help himself.

                  I think Jefferson was right, in his view about an occasional revolution...

                  I don't share your or Jefferson's cynical republican propensity at all. There's is a lot you obviously do not understand about the institutions and traditions of parliamentary governance.

                  I admit, I'm no expert on parliamentary governance. But I think the observation still holds about men and power.

                  Just look at what has happened in the U.S. post-Civil War.

                  Don't you think that it is kind of late to wish that your ancestors were less hot headed and waited until Dominion status was granted before embarking on the road to independence?

                  Elbows up!

                  JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                    @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                    @renauda said in Boulder Shooting:

                    @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                    @renauda said in Boulder Shooting:

                    @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                    What is your (collective your) defense against a repressive and tyrannical government?

                    Parliamentary governance reinforced by robust institutions supporting that constitutional tradition. In short, "peace, order and good government".

                    And how long does that last? It is the natural propensity for power to consolidate, and as the saying goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Man seems not to be able to help himself.

                    I think Jefferson was right, in his view about an occasional revolution...

                    I don't share your or Jefferson's cynical republican propensity at all. There's is a lot you obviously do not understand about the institutions and traditions of parliamentary governance.

                    I admit, I'm no expert on parliamentary governance. But I think the observation still holds about men and power.

                    Just look at what has happened in the U.S. post-Civil War.

                    Don't you think that it is kind of late to wish that your ancestors were less hot headed and waited until Dominion status was granted before embarking on the road to independence?

                    JollyJ Offline
                    JollyJ Offline
                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #62

                    @renauda said in Boulder Shooting:

                    @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                    @renauda said in Boulder Shooting:

                    @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                    @renauda said in Boulder Shooting:

                    @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                    What is your (collective your) defense against a repressive and tyrannical government?

                    Parliamentary governance reinforced by robust institutions supporting that constitutional tradition. In short, "peace, order and good government".

                    And how long does that last? It is the natural propensity for power to consolidate, and as the saying goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Man seems not to be able to help himself.

                    I think Jefferson was right, in his view about an occasional revolution...

                    I don't share your or Jefferson's cynical republican propensity at all. There's is a lot you obviously do not understand about the institutions and traditions of parliamentary governance.

                    I admit, I'm no expert on parliamentary governance. But I think the observation still holds about men and power.

                    Just look at what has happened in the U.S. post-Civil War.

                    Don't you think that it is kind of late to wish that your ancestors were less hot headed and waited until Dominion status was granted before embarking on the road to independence?

                    No.

                    If done correctly, a republic is superior to a parliamentary government.

                    Having said that, both are ephemeral.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @renauda said in Boulder Shooting:

                      @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                      @renauda said in Boulder Shooting:

                      @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                      @renauda said in Boulder Shooting:

                      @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                      What is your (collective your) defense against a repressive and tyrannical government?

                      Parliamentary governance reinforced by robust institutions supporting that constitutional tradition. In short, "peace, order and good government".

                      And how long does that last? It is the natural propensity for power to consolidate, and as the saying goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Man seems not to be able to help himself.

                      I think Jefferson was right, in his view about an occasional revolution...

                      I don't share your or Jefferson's cynical republican propensity at all. There's is a lot you obviously do not understand about the institutions and traditions of parliamentary governance.

                      I admit, I'm no expert on parliamentary governance. But I think the observation still holds about men and power.

                      Just look at what has happened in the U.S. post-Civil War.

                      Don't you think that it is kind of late to wish that your ancestors were less hot headed and waited until Dominion status was granted before embarking on the road to independence?

                      No.

                      If done correctly, a republic is superior to a parliamentary government.

                      Having said that, both are ephemeral.

                      RenaudaR Offline
                      RenaudaR Offline
                      Renauda
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #63

                      @jolly

                      We obviously do not share similar values on this topic.

                      I don't believe there is any point in continuing this conversation. We clearly live in two very different countries and cultures.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @renauda said in Boulder Shooting:

                        @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                        @renauda said in Boulder Shooting:

                        @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                        @renauda said in Boulder Shooting:

                        @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                        What is your (collective your) defense against a repressive and tyrannical government?

                        Parliamentary governance reinforced by robust institutions supporting that constitutional tradition. In short, "peace, order and good government".

                        And how long does that last? It is the natural propensity for power to consolidate, and as the saying goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Man seems not to be able to help himself.

                        I think Jefferson was right, in his view about an occasional revolution...

                        I don't share your or Jefferson's cynical republican propensity at all. There's is a lot you obviously do not understand about the institutions and traditions of parliamentary governance.

                        I admit, I'm no expert on parliamentary governance. But I think the observation still holds about men and power.

                        Just look at what has happened in the U.S. post-Civil War.

                        Don't you think that it is kind of late to wish that your ancestors were less hot headed and waited until Dominion status was granted before embarking on the road to independence?

                        No.

                        If done correctly, a republic is superior to a parliamentary government.

                        Having said that, both are ephemeral.

                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #64

                        @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                        If done correctly, a republic is superior to a parliamentary government.

                        What evidence are you basing this claim on?

                        I was only joking

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                          If done correctly, a republic is superior to a parliamentary government.

                          What evidence are you basing this claim on?

                          JollyJ Offline
                          JollyJ Offline
                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #65

                          @doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:

                          @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                          If done correctly, a republic is superior to a parliamentary government.

                          What evidence are you basing this claim on?

                          Plato.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:

                            @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                            If done correctly, a republic is superior to a parliamentary government.

                            What evidence are you basing this claim on?

                            Plato.

                            RenaudaR Offline
                            RenaudaR Offline
                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #66

                            @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                            @doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:

                            @jolly said in Boulder Shooting:

                            If done correctly, a republic is superior to a parliamentary government.

                            What evidence are you basing this claim on?

                            Plato.

                            As revised by Machiavelli and Hobbes.

                            Elbows up!

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