Boulder Shooting
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@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
What is your (collective your) defense against a repressive and tyrannical government?
Parliamentary governance reinforced by robust institutions supporting that constitutional tradition. In short, "peace, order and good government".
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
What is your (collective your) defense against a repressive and tyrannical government?
Parliamentary governance reinforced by robust institutions supporting that constitutional tradition. In short, "peace, order and good government".
And how long does that last? It is the natural propensity for power to consolidate, and as the saying goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Man seems not to be able to help himself.
I think Jefferson was right, in his view about an occasional revolution...
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
In fact, the right of firearm ownership does not even enter into my definition or measurement of freedom and liberty. And to be perfectly frank, nor should it in my opinion.
Me too.
@taiwan_girl said in Boulder Shooting:
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
In fact, the right of firearm ownership does not even enter into my definition or measurement of freedom and liberty. And to be perfectly frank, nor should it in my opinion.
Me too.
All power emanates from the barrel of a gun.
I think it won't be too long, and the Chinese will prove that point. Again.
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If you chaps ever start trying to shoot at your government with your AR-15 collections, you're going to get so fucked.
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If you chaps ever start trying to shoot at your government with your AR-15 collections, you're going to get so fucked.
@doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:
If you chaps ever start trying to shoot at your government with your AR-15 collections, you're going to get so fucked.
Not necessarily.
Two reasons...
- If it comes to that, there are enough weapons and enough variance in terrain to make Vietnam or Afghanistan look like a Sunday picnic.
- If it comes to that, I suspect the military will be fractured, and we all know who makes up most of the military. HINT: They didn't graduate from Berkley.
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I don't really understand the fascination so many Americans seem to have with this weird fantasy. If they want to go and live in a cave, they can just do it, they don't need a war.
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I don't really understand the fascination so many Americans seem to have with this weird fantasy. If they want to go and live in a cave, they can just do it, they don't need a war.
@doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:
I don't really understand the fascination so many Americans seem to have with this weird fantasy. If they want to go and live in a cave, they can just do it, they don't need a war.
Perhaps it started when we were chunking tea into Boston Harbor...
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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Eh... I'm not as big on making sure that the citizenry is well-armed to defend itself from their own Government argument.
I am very big on limiting the influence and direct impact that the Government has on your individual lives and liberties.
I believe in requiring a license to own any firearm. I need to demonstrate maturity, knowledge, and skill to be licensed to drive a car. The same should apply to firearms. I also need to maintain the vehicle in a satisfactory and safe condition to legally be allowed to drive the vehicle, the same standards should be applied to firearms. I periodically need to renew my license to drive a vehicle, I have no qualms about the same with guns.
As for a waiting period...Not as fond of that. If you are licensed and it is currently up to date, then no waiting period should be necessary.
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@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
What is your (collective your) defense against a repressive and tyrannical government?
Parliamentary governance reinforced by robust institutions supporting that constitutional tradition. In short, "peace, order and good government".
And how long does that last? It is the natural propensity for power to consolidate, and as the saying goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Man seems not to be able to help himself.
I think Jefferson was right, in his view about an occasional revolution...
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
What is your (collective your) defense against a repressive and tyrannical government?
Parliamentary governance reinforced by robust institutions supporting that constitutional tradition. In short, "peace, order and good government".
And how long does that last? It is the natural propensity for power to consolidate, and as the saying goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Man seems not to be able to help himself.
I think Jefferson was right, in his view about an occasional revolution...
I don't share your or Jefferson's cynical republican propensity at all. There's is a lot you obviously do not understand about the institutions and traditions of parliamentary governance.
Elbows up!
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@doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:
I don't really understand the fascination so many Americans seem to have with this weird fantasy. If they want to go and live in a cave, they can just do it, they don't need a war.
Perhaps it started when we were chunking tea into Boston Harbor...
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:
I don't really understand the fascination so many Americans seem to have with this weird fantasy. If they want to go and live in a cave, they can just do it, they don't need a war.
Perhaps it started when we were chunking tea into Boston Harbor...
How many times do we need to tell you?
You. need. to. boil. the. freaking. water.
Honestly, getting a decent cup around here is about as likely as a bunch of virgins-dressed-as-vikings overthrowing the government.
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@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:
I don't really understand the fascination so many Americans seem to have with this weird fantasy. If they want to go and live in a cave, they can just do it, they don't need a war.
Perhaps it started when we were chunking tea into Boston Harbor...
How many times do we need to tell you?
You. need. to. boil. the. freaking. water.
Honestly, getting a decent cup around here is about as likely as a bunch of virgins-dressed-as-vikings overthrowing the government.
@doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:
I don't really understand the fascination so many Americans seem to have with this weird fantasy. If they want to go and live in a cave, they can just do it, they don't need a war.
Perhaps it started when we were chunking tea into Boston Harbor...
How many times do we need to tell you?
You. need. to. boil. the. freaking. water.
Honestly, getting a decent cup around here is about as likely as a bunch of virgins-dressed-as-vikings overthrowing the government.
Drink coffee. It's good for you.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
What is your (collective your) defense against a repressive and tyrannical government?
Parliamentary governance reinforced by robust institutions supporting that constitutional tradition. In short, "peace, order and good government".
And how long does that last? It is the natural propensity for power to consolidate, and as the saying goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Man seems not to be able to help himself.
I think Jefferson was right, in his view about an occasional revolution...
I don't share your or Jefferson's cynical republican propensity at all. There's is a lot you obviously do not understand about the institutions and traditions of parliamentary governance.
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
What is your (collective your) defense against a repressive and tyrannical government?
Parliamentary governance reinforced by robust institutions supporting that constitutional tradition. In short, "peace, order and good government".
And how long does that last? It is the natural propensity for power to consolidate, and as the saying goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Man seems not to be able to help himself.
I think Jefferson was right, in his view about an occasional revolution...
I don't share your or Jefferson's cynical republican propensity at all. There's is a lot you obviously do not understand about the institutions and traditions of parliamentary governance.
I admit, I'm no expert on parliamentary governance. But I think the observation still holds about men and power.
Just look at what has happened in the U.S. post-Civil War.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:
I don't really understand the fascination so many Americans seem to have with this weird fantasy. If they want to go and live in a cave, they can just do it, they don't need a war.
Perhaps it started when we were chunking tea into Boston Harbor...
How many times do we need to tell you?
You. need. to. boil. the. freaking. water.
Honestly, getting a decent cup around here is about as likely as a bunch of virgins-dressed-as-vikings overthrowing the government.
Drink coffee. It's good for you.
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
Drink coffee. It's good for you.
It makes me argumentative and irritable.
Maybe if the yanks drank more tea.....
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@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
What is your (collective your) defense against a repressive and tyrannical government?
Parliamentary governance reinforced by robust institutions supporting that constitutional tradition. In short, "peace, order and good government".
And how long does that last? It is the natural propensity for power to consolidate, and as the saying goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Man seems not to be able to help himself.
I think Jefferson was right, in his view about an occasional revolution...
I don't share your or Jefferson's cynical republican propensity at all. There's is a lot you obviously do not understand about the institutions and traditions of parliamentary governance.
I admit, I'm no expert on parliamentary governance. But I think the observation still holds about men and power.
Just look at what has happened in the U.S. post-Civil War.
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
What is your (collective your) defense against a repressive and tyrannical government?
Parliamentary governance reinforced by robust institutions supporting that constitutional tradition. In short, "peace, order and good government".
And how long does that last? It is the natural propensity for power to consolidate, and as the saying goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Man seems not to be able to help himself.
I think Jefferson was right, in his view about an occasional revolution...
I don't share your or Jefferson's cynical republican propensity at all. There's is a lot you obviously do not understand about the institutions and traditions of parliamentary governance.
I admit, I'm no expert on parliamentary governance. But I think the observation still holds about men and power.
Just look at what has happened in the U.S. post-Civil War.
Don't you think that it is kind of late to wish that your ancestors were less hot headed and waited until Dominion status was granted before embarking on the road to independence?
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@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
What is your (collective your) defense against a repressive and tyrannical government?
Parliamentary governance reinforced by robust institutions supporting that constitutional tradition. In short, "peace, order and good government".
And how long does that last? It is the natural propensity for power to consolidate, and as the saying goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Man seems not to be able to help himself.
I think Jefferson was right, in his view about an occasional revolution...
I don't share your or Jefferson's cynical republican propensity at all. There's is a lot you obviously do not understand about the institutions and traditions of parliamentary governance.
I admit, I'm no expert on parliamentary governance. But I think the observation still holds about men and power.
Just look at what has happened in the U.S. post-Civil War.
Don't you think that it is kind of late to wish that your ancestors were less hot headed and waited until Dominion status was granted before embarking on the road to independence?
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
What is your (collective your) defense against a repressive and tyrannical government?
Parliamentary governance reinforced by robust institutions supporting that constitutional tradition. In short, "peace, order and good government".
And how long does that last? It is the natural propensity for power to consolidate, and as the saying goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Man seems not to be able to help himself.
I think Jefferson was right, in his view about an occasional revolution...
I don't share your or Jefferson's cynical republican propensity at all. There's is a lot you obviously do not understand about the institutions and traditions of parliamentary governance.
I admit, I'm no expert on parliamentary governance. But I think the observation still holds about men and power.
Just look at what has happened in the U.S. post-Civil War.
Don't you think that it is kind of late to wish that your ancestors were less hot headed and waited until Dominion status was granted before embarking on the road to independence?
No.
If done correctly, a republic is superior to a parliamentary government.
Having said that, both are ephemeral.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
What is your (collective your) defense against a repressive and tyrannical government?
Parliamentary governance reinforced by robust institutions supporting that constitutional tradition. In short, "peace, order and good government".
And how long does that last? It is the natural propensity for power to consolidate, and as the saying goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Man seems not to be able to help himself.
I think Jefferson was right, in his view about an occasional revolution...
I don't share your or Jefferson's cynical republican propensity at all. There's is a lot you obviously do not understand about the institutions and traditions of parliamentary governance.
I admit, I'm no expert on parliamentary governance. But I think the observation still holds about men and power.
Just look at what has happened in the U.S. post-Civil War.
Don't you think that it is kind of late to wish that your ancestors were less hot headed and waited until Dominion status was granted before embarking on the road to independence?
No.
If done correctly, a republic is superior to a parliamentary government.
Having said that, both are ephemeral.
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@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
What is your (collective your) defense against a repressive and tyrannical government?
Parliamentary governance reinforced by robust institutions supporting that constitutional tradition. In short, "peace, order and good government".
And how long does that last? It is the natural propensity for power to consolidate, and as the saying goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Man seems not to be able to help himself.
I think Jefferson was right, in his view about an occasional revolution...
I don't share your or Jefferson's cynical republican propensity at all. There's is a lot you obviously do not understand about the institutions and traditions of parliamentary governance.
I admit, I'm no expert on parliamentary governance. But I think the observation still holds about men and power.
Just look at what has happened in the U.S. post-Civil War.
Don't you think that it is kind of late to wish that your ancestors were less hot headed and waited until Dominion status was granted before embarking on the road to independence?
No.
If done correctly, a republic is superior to a parliamentary government.
Having said that, both are ephemeral.
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
If done correctly, a republic is superior to a parliamentary government.
What evidence are you basing this claim on?
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@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
If done correctly, a republic is superior to a parliamentary government.
What evidence are you basing this claim on?
@doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
If done correctly, a republic is superior to a parliamentary government.
What evidence are you basing this claim on?
Plato.
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@doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
If done correctly, a republic is superior to a parliamentary government.
What evidence are you basing this claim on?
Plato.
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
If done correctly, a republic is superior to a parliamentary government.
What evidence are you basing this claim on?
Plato.
As revised by Machiavelli and Hobbes.
