Third Wave Here?
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Had my first injection of Moderna on Thursday afternoon, and today (Sunday) my temp has finally started to come down. It was elevated to around 100F, while taking Advil, until this morning, and now it's around 99.5, just enough to make a person feel wonky. Aches are not as bad, as long as I take some ibuprofen. Fatigue is finally somewhat less. Chest tightness is almost gone, too. These represent a milder version of symptoms I had in February of 2020.
Several recent news articles have said those who had the virus will get a stronger reaction to the first dose, similar to what others will see at their second dose. It makes me think my mystery illness from Feb '20 really was COVID, as Jolly and others noted in a prior thread.
I think you were right. Put a gold star on the calendar for yourself to note this. LOL
@brenda said in Third Wave Here?:
Had my first injection of Moderna on Thursday afternoon, and today (Sunday) my temp has finally started to come down. It was elevated to around 100F, while taking Advil, until this morning, and now it's around 99.5, just enough to make a person feel wonky. Aches are not as bad, as long as I take some ibuprofen. Fatigue is finally somewhat less. Chest tightness is almost gone, too. These represent a milder version of symptoms I had in February of 2020.
Several recent news articles have said those who had the virus will get a stronger reaction to the first dose, similar to what others will see at their second dose. It makes me think my mystery illness from Feb '20 really was COVID, as Jolly and others noted in a prior thread.
I think you were right. Put a gold star on the calendar for yourself to note this. LOL
That is similar to my reaction to the first Moderna shot, and I had the virus
Second shot will be 4/1
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You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
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@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
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@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
Yes, let's have more people die and come down with permanent complications because Loki doesn't like taxes.
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@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
Yes, let's have more people die and come down with permanent complications because Loki doesn't like taxes.
@aqua-letifer said in Third Wave Here?:
@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
Yes, let's have more people die and come down with permanent complications because Loki doesn't like taxes.
Haha. I’m just saying when people see the bill there are going to be some pretty lively conversations about who pays. Lives saved will long be forgotten, because if that were the real issue we would have double the vaccinated by now. I’m patient, and I can almost write the future headlines.
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@aqua-letifer said in Third Wave Here?:
@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
Yes, let's have more people die and come down with permanent complications because Loki doesn't like taxes.
Haha. I’m just saying when people see the bill there are going to be some pretty lively conversations about who pays. Lives saved will long be forgotten, because if that were the real issue we would have double the vaccinated by now. I’m patient, and I can almost write the future headlines.
@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
Lives saved will long be forgotten, because if that were the real issue
Well, it is for me, so I don't care what they raise it to.
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@brenda said in Third Wave Here?:
Had my first injection of Moderna on Thursday afternoon, and today (Sunday) my temp has finally started to come down. It was elevated to around 100F, while taking Advil, until this morning, and now it's around 99.5, just enough to make a person feel wonky. Aches are not as bad, as long as I take some ibuprofen. Fatigue is finally somewhat less. Chest tightness is almost gone, too. These represent a milder version of symptoms I had in February of 2020.
Several recent news articles have said those who had the virus will get a stronger reaction to the first dose, similar to what others will see at their second dose. It makes me think my mystery illness from Feb '20 really was COVID, as Jolly and others noted in a prior thread.
I think you were right. Put a gold star on the calendar for yourself to note this. LOL
That is similar to my reaction to the first Moderna shot, and I had the virus
Second shot will be 4/1
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@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
It seems to me that in the US, the problem is is that the people are are "advocate" the most to open things up NOW, are the same people that are not willing to do the things necessary to allow that to happen.
(mask wearing, social distancing, etc.)
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@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
It seems to me that in the US, the problem is is that the people are are "advocate" the most to open things up NOW, are the same people that are not willing to do the things necessary to allow that to happen.
(mask wearing, social distancing, etc.)
@taiwan_girl said in Third Wave Here?:
@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
It seems to me that in the US, the problem is is that the people are are "advocate" the most to open things up NOW, are the same people that are not willing to do the things necessary to allow that to happen.
(mask wearing, social distancing, etc.)
There's a word for those people.
I was only joking
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@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
It seems to me that in the US, the problem is is that the people are are "advocate" the most to open things up NOW, are the same people that are not willing to do the things necessary to allow that to happen.
(mask wearing, social distancing, etc.)
@taiwan_girl said in Third Wave Here?:
It seems to me that in the US, the problem is is that the people are are "advocate" the most to open things up NOW, are the same people that are not willing to do the things necessary to allow that to happen.
(mask wearing, social distancing, etc.)I assure you it is not just the US. Plenty of those people here as well.
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@taiwan_girl said in Third Wave Here?:
@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
It seems to me that in the US, the problem is is that the people are are "advocate" the most to open things up NOW, are the same people that are not willing to do the things necessary to allow that to happen.
(mask wearing, social distancing, etc.)
There's a word for those people.
@doctor-phibes said in Third Wave Here?:
@taiwan_girl said in Third Wave Here?:
@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
It seems to me that in the US, the problem is is that the people are are "advocate" the most to open things up NOW, are the same people that are not willing to do the things necessary to allow that to happen.
(mask wearing, social distancing, etc.)
There's a word for those people.
A good word or a bad word?
After a year there is still no concept of a limit or a goal.
There is no way to measure the harm caused by the pandemic, and no way to measure the harm caused to closed businesses and no way to measure the harm caused to children with no social contact.
Just insults
Wear a mask or be stupid
Why? What is the goal? Are we getting closer to the goal? Does them mask really do anything?
All great questions, there is a word for those people with the sense to question the idiots and it is not an insult.
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I know what the goal is where I live.
I also support it and follow the public health directives accordingly. In fact I probably exercise more caution than is even asked of me.
I know a few people who question the directives and broadcast their dissenting voice far and wide. Some even say the whole pandemic is a fraud and is not really happening. I have a gerund and noun combination for them and have said it to their face. Yes, it was insulting. I really don't care if they ever speak to me again. They are dead to me.
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I know what the goal is where I live.
I also support it and follow the public health directives accordingly. In fact I probably exercise more caution than is even asked of me.
I know a few people who question the directives and broadcast their dissenting voice far and wide. Some even say the whole pandemic is a fraud and is not really happening. I have a gerund and noun combination for them and have said it to their face. Yes, it was insulting. I really don't care if they ever speak to me again. They are dead to me.
@renauda said in Third Wave Here?:
I know what the goal is where I live.
I also support it and follow the public health directives accordingly. In fact I probably exercise more caution than is even asked of me.
I know a few people who question the directives and broadcast their dissenting voice far and wide. Some even say the whole pandemic is a fraud and is not really happening. I have a gerund and noun combination for them and have said it to their face. Yes, it was insulting. I really don't care if they ever speak to me again. They are dead to me.
So, what is the goal where you live?
Secondly, what if the goal cannot be reached?
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@doctor-phibes said in Third Wave Here?:
@taiwan_girl said in Third Wave Here?:
@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
It seems to me that in the US, the problem is is that the people are are "advocate" the most to open things up NOW, are the same people that are not willing to do the things necessary to allow that to happen.
(mask wearing, social distancing, etc.)
There's a word for those people.
A good word or a bad word?
After a year there is still no concept of a limit or a goal.
There is no way to measure the harm caused by the pandemic, and no way to measure the harm caused to closed businesses and no way to measure the harm caused to children with no social contact.
Just insults
Wear a mask or be stupid
Why? What is the goal? Are we getting closer to the goal? Does them mask really do anything?
All great questions, there is a word for those people with the sense to question the idiots and it is not an insult.
@copper said in Third Wave Here?:
@doctor-phibes said in Third Wave Here?:
@taiwan_girl said in Third Wave Here?:
@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
It seems to me that in the US, the problem is is that the people are are "advocate" the most to open things up NOW, are the same people that are not willing to do the things necessary to allow that to happen.
(mask wearing, social distancing, etc.)
There's a word for those people.
A good word or a bad word?
After a year there is still no concept of a limit or a goal.
There is no way to measure the harm caused by the pandemic, and no way to measure the harm caused to closed businesses and no way to measure the harm caused to children with no social contact.
Just insults
Wear a mask or be stupid
Why? What is the goal? Are we getting closer to the goal? Does them mask really do anything?
All great questions, there is a word for those people with the sense to question the idiots and it is not an insult.
Whatever.
I was only joking
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@renauda said in Third Wave Here?:
I know what the goal is where I live.
I also support it and follow the public health directives accordingly. In fact I probably exercise more caution than is even asked of me.
I know a few people who question the directives and broadcast their dissenting voice far and wide. Some even say the whole pandemic is a fraud and is not really happening. I have a gerund and noun combination for them and have said it to their face. Yes, it was insulting. I really don't care if they ever speak to me again. They are dead to me.
So, what is the goal where you live?
Secondly, what if the goal cannot be reached?
@jolly said in Third Wave Here?:
@renauda said in Third Wave Here?:
I know what the goal is where I live.
I also support it and follow the public health directives accordingly. In fact I probably exercise more caution than is even asked of me.
I know a few people who question the directives and broadcast their dissenting voice far and wide. Some even say the whole pandemic is a fraud and is not really happening. I have a gerund and noun combination for them and have said it to their face. Yes, it was insulting. I really don't care if they ever speak to me again. They are dead to me.
So, what is the goal where you live?
Secondly, what if the goal cannot be reached?
Minimize transmission so as not to crash the public health care system. Despite some the lacksadasical decisions and policies of our provincial government during the second wave in late fall and early winter, we have achieved that and continue to do so. We are prepared to stay this course for at least until year end.
I trust you have no problem with our success in managing our own affairs in this matter?
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@copper said in Third Wave Here?:
@doctor-phibes said in Third Wave Here?:
@taiwan_girl said in Third Wave Here?:
@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
It seems to me that in the US, the problem is is that the people are are "advocate" the most to open things up NOW, are the same people that are not willing to do the things necessary to allow that to happen.
(mask wearing, social distancing, etc.)
There's a word for those people.
A good word or a bad word?
After a year there is still no concept of a limit or a goal.
There is no way to measure the harm caused by the pandemic, and no way to measure the harm caused to closed businesses and no way to measure the harm caused to children with no social contact.
Just insults
Wear a mask or be stupid
Why? What is the goal? Are we getting closer to the goal? Does them mask really do anything?
All great questions, there is a word for those people with the sense to question the idiots and it is not an insult.
Whatever.
@doctor-phibes said in Third Wave Here?:
Does them mask really do anything?
Well lemme tell ya, them thar mask are the bee's knees! Wear them mask and keep 'em people at spittin' distance and y'all will do jus' fine!
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But Aqua, what is the goal?
WHAT IS THE GOAL??????
I KEEP ASKING THIS QUESTION, AND ALL I GET IS INSULTS!
IT'S ALL SO UNFAIR!
WHY LORD, WHY????
I was only joking
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I think Renauda summed it up quite nicely. Some sectors of business are unduly affected, like restaurants, but many seem to be humming along pretty nicely.
