May 1

[jon-nyc]

[jon-nyc]

No doubt many states will get there earlier.

[jon-nyc]

That’s just 7 weeks away.

[Mik]

Or what? What power does he have to direct the states in this way? Do it or no vaccine for you?

[jon-nyc]

No if a governor wants to show his defiance and wait until May 15 he can.

My guess is they’ll take it as a challenge to get there earlier. Seems like the supply will be there.

[Aqua Letifer]

@mik said in May 1:

Or what? What power does he have to direct the states in this way? Do it or no vaccine for you?

Just like with Trump, a big part of the president's job with all this is to set the tone. That's all this is IMO. Same as with Trump's "this is no big deal, we have this under control" rhetoric. As a general strategy I don't completely disagree.

[Loki]

Some states are really pathetic and need to be exposed.

May 1 should be a lay up and good on Biden but the media is letting some blue states way off the hook for their miserable results so far.

[LuFins Dad]

That’s like having him announcing that he is requiring the NFL to make Super Bowl Rings for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers by November.

1. It’s not up to him.

2. It was already in motion

3. And they are on pace to be finished weeks before his new deadline.

Every adult that wants the vaccine will have had access before May 1st.

[Aqua Letifer]

@lufins-dad said in May 1:

Every adult that wants the vaccine will have had access before May 1st.

How much are you willing to bet?

[jon-nyc]

Seems unlikely unless we suspend 2nd dosing.

[Doctor Phibes]

In MA, they're currently doing 30,000 per day. Unless something changes, the May 1 date is an old man's fantasy.

[jon-nyc]

We did 144k today. 160k the other day.

[89th]

Biden is smart.

He didn't say what kind of vaccine, just vaccines. Maybe it's a vaccine for whooping cough. Doesn't matter, GET IT DONE. <puts on aviator sunglasses>

[jon-nyc]

@doctor-phibes Well May 1 is a target for opening availability to all adults. I think we’ll probably have spare current appointment capacity in most places by Labor Day.

[Loki]

The supply will be there. The distribution plan everyone knows is the issue. We will have to see what’s coming. There are multiple plans, pick one and go.

[jon-nyc]

A great milestone will be when a state can move to walk-in or same day appointments (like flu)

[89th]

It's interesting that July 4th was mentioned. I remember last year and hoping (in the Spring) that by July 4th we'd have the curve flattened and things would be almost back to normal... a real independence day celebration. Obviously that didn't happen, but this year I'd expect July 4th to really, really, really feel as if society is 95% back to normal and a reason to celebrate.

[Loki]

[LuFins Dad]

210,000,000 adults. Roughly 20% will choose not to be vaccinated, leaving us at 168,000,000. We’ve had what, 35,000,000 fully vaccinated vaccinated? That puts us at 133,000,000 remaining, of which another 10,000,000 or so have had their first shots of Moderna and Pfizer. We’ve been averaging 2.3 million per day with just a smattering of J&J, and Moderna and Pfizer still ramping up. J&J is expected to have at least 50,000,000 delivered before the end of April, and I’ve heard that Novavax has at least 50,000,000 available immediately they were supposed to have 100,000,000 ready for early January delivery.

May 1st is easily doable even without AZ.

[Doctor Phibes]

@jon-nyc said in May 1:

@doctor-phibes Well May 1 is a target for opening availability to all adults. I think we’ll probably have spare current appointment capacity in most places by Labor Day.

Opening availability to everyone doesn't require any cleverness. Being able to do it with a clear conscience is something else.