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  • RainmanR Offline
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    Rainman
    wrote on last edited by
    #12

    Is there a flight simulator that would allow me to blow things up? I mean a program as sophisticated as MS Flight Simulator.

    I had no idea you could buy all those gadgets, looks like a lot of fun because they try to make everything realistic, so you mess up and crash and burn, a horrible way to end your life and it's just a GAME!

    I used to play "F-15 Flight Eagle" or something like that. It was a lot of fun I guess, but totally unrealistic all around.

    Mark, how much would it cost, ball-park, to add all those accessories to a computer, assuming it's a good computer and not a hot rod like the one you built? I'm guessing $800 - $1,000 because everything costs $800 - $1,000 these days. Everything.

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    • CopperC Copper

      @george-k said in Flight Sim users. Need pedal advice.:

      @loki said in Flight Sim users. Need pedal advice.:

      Quality in Aviation: landings=take offs

      Landings always equal the number of take off, don't they?

      I guess there are the Voyagers, the answer is still not yet.

      If you are in a hurry for the first lesson it goes like this,

      Pull the stick, the houses get small
      Push the stick, they get big

      What else do you want to know?

      Most instructors pass that wisdom along at some point.

      George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #13

      @copper said in Flight Sim users. Need pedal advice.:

      If you are in a hurry for the first lesson it goes like this,

      Pull the stick, the houses get small
      Push the stick, they get big
      What else do you want to know?

      Pull the stick more, they get big again.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • RainmanR Rainman

        Is there a flight simulator that would allow me to blow things up? I mean a program as sophisticated as MS Flight Simulator.

        I had no idea you could buy all those gadgets, looks like a lot of fun because they try to make everything realistic, so you mess up and crash and burn, a horrible way to end your life and it's just a GAME!

        I used to play "F-15 Flight Eagle" or something like that. It was a lot of fun I guess, but totally unrealistic all around.

        Mark, how much would it cost, ball-park, to add all those accessories to a computer, assuming it's a good computer and not a hot rod like the one you built? I'm guessing $800 - $1,000 because everything costs $800 - $1,000 these days. Everything.

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        Aqua's Sister
        wrote on last edited by
        #14

        @rainman said in Flight Sim users. Need pedal advice.:

        everything costs $800 - $1,000 these days. Everything.

        Not really...

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        • RainmanR Rainman

          Is there a flight simulator that would allow me to blow things up? I mean a program as sophisticated as MS Flight Simulator.

          I had no idea you could buy all those gadgets, looks like a lot of fun because they try to make everything realistic, so you mess up and crash and burn, a horrible way to end your life and it's just a GAME!

          I used to play "F-15 Flight Eagle" or something like that. It was a lot of fun I guess, but totally unrealistic all around.

          Mark, how much would it cost, ball-park, to add all those accessories to a computer, assuming it's a good computer and not a hot rod like the one you built? I'm guessing $800 - $1,000 because everything costs $800 - $1,000 these days. Everything.

          markM Offline
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          mark
          wrote on last edited by
          #15

          @rainman said in Flight Sim users. Need pedal advice.:

          Is there a flight simulator that would allow me to blow things up? I mean a program as sophisticated as MS Flight Simulator.

          I had no idea you could buy all those gadgets, looks like a lot of fun because they try to make everything realistic, so you mess up and crash and burn, a horrible way to end your life and it's just a GAME!

          I used to play "F-15 Flight Eagle" or something like that. It was a lot of fun I guess, but totally unrealistic all around.

          Mark, how much would it cost, ball-park, to add all those accessories to a computer, assuming it's a good computer and not a hot rod like the one you built? I'm guessing $800 - $1,000 because everything costs $800 - $1,000 these days. Everything.

          The sky is the limit here. pun intended. πŸ˜‰

          You can spends tens of thousands on a rig.

          The components that I am looking at range from $250 to $350 each. So, Yoke, Pedals, Throttle, throw in another switchbox, it will add up to about $800-$1000. lol

          The extra switch boxes and throttle are not necessary in VR. You will be feeling around for them unless you activate passthrough video which takes you completely out of the immersive environment. I still think VR is the way to go in a flight sim. Spend several hundred or more on a good VR headset vs, $500 or more on a throttle / switchbox.

          Oh! Motion rigs are an "affordable" thing these days. Used to be you had to spend $15k on one of the best "pro-sumer" commercial units that attach to the aluminum cockpit. Now they range in cost from $1,500 or so to whatever you can pay. These motion systems use an actuator at the 4 corners of the rig and move independent of each other, lifting and dropping each corner of the rig in sync with the movement/physics of the plane or car or whatever you happen to be in. The $150k per year ball of death would be perfect for space simulators.

          For just under $2k you can get a 3 axis motion rig.
          https://dofreality.com/#h3

          The 6 axis model will set you back $4k
          https://dofreality.com/#h6

          There are battle sims out there. I have not investigated any of them. I probably will at some point.

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          • RainmanR Rainman

            Is there a flight simulator that would allow me to blow things up? I mean a program as sophisticated as MS Flight Simulator.

            I had no idea you could buy all those gadgets, looks like a lot of fun because they try to make everything realistic, so you mess up and crash and burn, a horrible way to end your life and it's just a GAME!

            I used to play "F-15 Flight Eagle" or something like that. It was a lot of fun I guess, but totally unrealistic all around.

            Mark, how much would it cost, ball-park, to add all those accessories to a computer, assuming it's a good computer and not a hot rod like the one you built? I'm guessing $800 - $1,000 because everything costs $800 - $1,000 these days. Everything.

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            Doctor Phibes
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            #16

            @rainman said in Flight Sim users. Need pedal advice.:

            Is there a flight simulator that would allow me to blow things up?

            DigitalCombatSimulator.com

            I'd post a link, but my work VPN blocks it.

            This is supposed to be brilliant. I couldn't get it to work on my gaming laptop for reasons I've never been able to figure out, but there's a free demo plane, and then you can buy additional aircraft.

            I was only joking

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            • George KG George K

              @copper said in Flight Sim users. Need pedal advice.:

              If you are in a hurry for the first lesson it goes like this,

              Pull the stick, the houses get small
              Push the stick, they get big
              What else do you want to know?

              Pull the stick more, they get big again.

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              Aqua Letifer
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              #17

              @george-k said in Flight Sim users. Need pedal advice.:

              @copper said in Flight Sim users. Need pedal advice.:

              If you are in a hurry for the first lesson it goes like this,

              Pull the stick, the houses get small
              Push the stick, they get big
              What else do you want to know?

              Pull the stick more, they get big again.

              β€”Jon's Sister, circa Thursday

              Please love yourself.

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @rainman said in Flight Sim users. Need pedal advice.:

                Is there a flight simulator that would allow me to blow things up?

                DigitalCombatSimulator.com

                I'd post a link, but my work VPN blocks it.

                This is supposed to be brilliant. I couldn't get it to work on my gaming laptop for reasons I've never been able to figure out, but there's a free demo plane, and then you can buy additional aircraft.

                markM Offline
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                mark
                wrote on last edited by
                #18

                @doctor-phibes said in Flight Sim users. Need pedal advice.:

                @rainman said in Flight Sim users. Need pedal advice.:

                Is there a flight simulator that would allow me to blow things up?

                DigitalCombatSimulator.com

                I'd post a link, but my work VPN blocks it.

                This is supposed to be brilliant. I couldn't get it to work on my gaming laptop for reasons I've never been able to figure out, but there's a free demo plane, and then you can buy additional aircraft.

                Downloading... πŸ€“

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                • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                  #19

                  Mark, I'm pretty sure you'll need to invest in a HOTAS setup as well as your yoke if you're going to start with that program.

                  Just saying...

                  I was only joking

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                    #20

                    If anybody's interested, there's some great stuff on YouTube covering DCS...it's kind of like MS Flight Simulator, but fun.

                    Link to video

                    I was only joking

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #21

                      Link to video

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                        #22

                        The first one I played was called 'Worlds of Flight' for the Dragon 32 (32K of memory!), which was a UK-made clone of the TRS-80, and looked very much like that.

                        I was only joking

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                        • CopperC Offline
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                          Copper
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #23

                          I ran that sublogic Flight Simulator II on the Comodore 64

                          A giant leap forward

                          Link to video

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                          • RainmanR Offline
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                            Rainman
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #24

                            Thanks Mark and Dr. Phibes and others!

                            Wow. I had no idea, but glad I asked the question. Frankly, it would be a little tough to convince my wife about spending a few thousand on something as sophisticated as the cocpit reality machines.

                            I hope you guys download and play, and then post how it goes. I'm not sure, but it looks like the computer requirements may exceed what my Dell can do.

                            The virtual reality goggles are beyond cool. I knew the technology was being developed over the years, but never heard about it until being reintroduced to the links Mark and Phibes posted.

                            I will be telling my wife and my son about these, hoping my son will help influence my wife on why we NEED this kind of stuff.

                            How can I live without these simulators? Difficult if not impossible.
                            I just must have it. Really sweetheart, it helps eliminate those thoughts of suicide when I'm playing. So it's for my health, don't you see?

                            I'll work on it.

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                            • RainmanR Rainman

                              Thanks Mark and Dr. Phibes and others!

                              Wow. I had no idea, but glad I asked the question. Frankly, it would be a little tough to convince my wife about spending a few thousand on something as sophisticated as the cocpit reality machines.

                              I hope you guys download and play, and then post how it goes. I'm not sure, but it looks like the computer requirements may exceed what my Dell can do.

                              The virtual reality goggles are beyond cool. I knew the technology was being developed over the years, but never heard about it until being reintroduced to the links Mark and Phibes posted.

                              I will be telling my wife and my son about these, hoping my son will help influence my wife on why we NEED this kind of stuff.

                              How can I live without these simulators? Difficult if not impossible.
                              I just must have it. Really sweetheart, it helps eliminate those thoughts of suicide when I'm playing. So it's for my health, don't you see?

                              I'll work on it.

                              markM Offline
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                              mark
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #25

                              @rainman Good luck! It's totally worth it.

                              In the meantime, check out these world record shortest take offs and landings..

                              Link to video

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