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The GOP’s golden calf

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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @axtremus said in The GOP’s golden calf:

    More symbolism at CPAC:
    https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/cpac-stage-appears-to-be-shaped-like-an-odal-rune-an-early-nazi-ss-symbol/

    You're an idiot for sharing that.

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    @aqua-letifer said in The GOP’s golden calf:

    @axtremus said in The GOP’s golden calf:

    More symbolism at CPAC:
    https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/cpac-stage-appears-to-be-shaped-like-an-odal-rune-an-early-nazi-ss-symbol/

    You're an idiot for sharing that.

    My brother shared it on FB, with the comment that 'this is not by accident'.

    Jesus. I have to be with him for three days this week. He's my brother and I love him but he's way off the reservation.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      @aqua-letifer said in The GOP’s golden calf:

      @axtremus said in The GOP’s golden calf:

      More symbolism at CPAC:
      https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/cpac-stage-appears-to-be-shaped-like-an-odal-rune-an-early-nazi-ss-symbol/

      You're an idiot for sharing that.

      My brother shared it on FB, with the comment that 'this is not by accident'.

      Jesus. I have to be with him for three days this week. He's my brother and I love him but he's way off the reservation.

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      Aqua Letifer
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      @mik said in The GOP’s golden calf:

      My brother shared it on FB, with the comment that 'this is not by accident'.
      Jesus. I have to be with him for three days this week. He's my brother and I love him but he's way off the reservation.

      Are you serious?? Aren't your family of scando descent?

      It's offensive and ignorant as fuck to call them "nazi runes." It's taken a lot of work on the part of scando cultures to re-educate the world about their own history. Norse runes aren't racist, you shitheads, sorry, and no they aren't "Nazi runes." They're far, far older than the Third Reich assholes who used them for their terrible propaganda.

      Please love yourself.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        @mik said in The GOP’s golden calf:

        My brother shared it on FB, with the comment that 'this is not by accident'.
        Jesus. I have to be with him for three days this week. He's my brother and I love him but he's way off the reservation.

        Are you serious?? Aren't your family of scando descent?

        It's offensive and ignorant as fuck to call them "nazi runes." It's taken a lot of work on the part of scando cultures to re-educate the world about their own history. Norse runes aren't racist, you shitheads, sorry, and no they aren't "Nazi runes." They're far, far older than the Third Reich assholes who used them for their terrible propaganda.

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        @aqua-letifer said in The GOP’s golden calf:

        They're far, far older than the Third Reich assholes who used them for their terrible propaganda.

        You're, of course, right. But try explaining that to someone who puts a swastika on his sleeve.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Horace
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          maybe the appropriate response is to point out that it's a reasonable stage layout whose association with historical symbols is purely coincidental.

          Education is extremely important.

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            You are of course correct, Horace. The problem is that any attempt at reason would simply be met with a tirade of nutzi indignation from he and his friends. There's just no point.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • George KG George K

              @aqua-letifer said in The GOP’s golden calf:

              They're far, far older than the Third Reich assholes who used them for their terrible propaganda.

              You're, of course, right. But try explaining that to someone who puts a swastika on his sleeve.

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              Aqua Letifer
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              @george-k said in The GOP’s golden calf:

              @aqua-letifer said in The GOP’s golden calf:

              They're far, far older than the Third Reich assholes who used them for their terrible propaganda.

              You're, of course, right. But try explaining that to someone who puts a swastika on his sleeve.

              Entirely depends on the style of swastika.

              Please love yourself.

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              • MikM Mik

                You are of course correct, Horace. The problem is that any attempt at reason would simply be met with a tirade of nutzi indignation from he and his friends. There's just no point.

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                @mik said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                You are of course correct, Horace. The problem is that any attempt at reason would simply be met with a tirade of nutzi indignation from he and his friends. There's just no point.

                It's anecdotes like this that make me believe that left wing nuttery is way more prevalent than right wing nuttery. I hear about right wing nuttery from twitter reports by jon, little elsewhere. I live with, and hear personal accounts of, left wing nuttery.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Aqua Letifer
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                  After the confederate statues, if the futhorc is next, I promise you that I will be spraypainting or wheatpasting the shit out of "peace and love" and "co-exist" in runic everywhere I can get away with it. Everywhere. It'll be a hobby.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    @mik said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                    You are of course correct, Horace. The problem is that any attempt at reason would simply be met with a tirade of nutzi indignation from he and his friends. There's just no point.

                    It's anecdotes like this that make me believe that left wing nuttery is way more prevalent than right wing nuttery. I hear about right wing nuttery from twitter reports by jon, little elsewhere. I live with, and hear personal accounts of, left wing nuttery.

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                    @horace said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                    It's anecdotes like this that make me believe that left wing nuttery is way more prevalent than right wing nuttery.

                    I think locality is more important than sums. Doesn't do much to say there are more leftwing nutters overall if all your rural neighbors are Qanon Trumpists.

                    But around my area, yeah, far more left-wing nutters, so they're of more concern to me than the far-right.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      @mik said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                      You are of course correct, Horace. The problem is that any attempt at reason would simply be met with a tirade of nutzi indignation from he and his friends. There's just no point.

                      It's anecdotes like this that make me believe that left wing nuttery is way more prevalent than right wing nuttery. I hear about right wing nuttery from twitter reports by jon, little elsewhere. I live with, and hear personal accounts of, left wing nuttery.

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                      @horace said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                      @mik said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                      You are of course correct, Horace. The problem is that any attempt at reason would simply be met with a tirade of nutzi indignation from he and his friends. There's just no point.

                      It's anecdotes like this that make me believe that left wing nuttery is way more prevalent than right wing nuttery. I hear about right wing nuttery from twitter reports by jon, little elsewhere. I live with, and hear personal accounts of, left wing nuttery.

                      I think that’s just selective hearing. Nuttery is strictly bell curve. Law of nature. Just like Newton’s laws of motion.

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                      • bachophileB bachophile

                        @horace said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                        @mik said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                        You are of course correct, Horace. The problem is that any attempt at reason would simply be met with a tirade of nutzi indignation from he and his friends. There's just no point.

                        It's anecdotes like this that make me believe that left wing nuttery is way more prevalent than right wing nuttery. I hear about right wing nuttery from twitter reports by jon, little elsewhere. I live with, and hear personal accounts of, left wing nuttery.

                        I think that’s just selective hearing. Nuttery is strictly bell curve. Law of nature. Just like Newton’s laws of motion.

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                        @bachophile said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                        @horace said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                        @mik said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                        You are of course correct, Horace. The problem is that any attempt at reason would simply be met with a tirade of nutzi indignation from he and his friends. There's just no point.

                        It's anecdotes like this that make me believe that left wing nuttery is way more prevalent than right wing nuttery. I hear about right wing nuttery from twitter reports by jon, little elsewhere. I live with, and hear personal accounts of, left wing nuttery.

                        I think that’s just selective hearing. Nuttery is strictly bell curve. Law of nature. Just like Newton’s laws of motion.

                        No, culture creates nuttery, often more in one direction than another.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          If you think you only hear about it second or third hand from me it's definitely selective hearing. We actually get right wing nuttery posted here directly, with neither self-awareness nor ironic intent.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            If you think you only hear about it second or third hand from me it's definitely selective hearing. We actually get right wing nuttery posted here directly, with neither self-awareness nor ironic intent.

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                            @jon-nyc said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                            If you think you only hear about it second or third hand from me it's definitely selective hearing. We actually get right wing nuttery posted here directly, with neither self-awareness nor irony.

                            Well no, I don't claim a complete absence of nuttery on the right, even right here on the brilliant TNCR forum. That sort of claim is like trying to claim that a white police officer will never again kill a black person on video under questionable circumstances. A reasonable person doesn't count on it.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              @mik said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                              You are of course correct, Horace. The problem is that any attempt at reason would simply be met with a tirade of nutzi indignation from he and his friends. There's just no point.

                              It's anecdotes like this that make me believe that left wing nuttery is way more prevalent than right wing nuttery. I hear about right wing nuttery from twitter reports by jon, little elsewhere. I live with, and hear personal accounts of, left wing nuttery.

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                              @horace said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                              @mik said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                              You are of course correct, Horace. The problem is that any attempt at reason would simply be met with a tirade of nutzi indignation from he and his friends. There's just no point.

                              It's anecdotes like this that make me believe that left wing nuttery is way more prevalent than right wing nuttery. I hear about right wing nuttery from twitter reports by jon, little elsewhere. I live with, and hear personal accounts of, left wing nuttery.

                              I see both regularly. Don't like it from either side.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                After the confederate statues, if the futhorc is next, I promise you that I will be spraypainting or wheatpasting the shit out of "peace and love" and "co-exist" in runic everywhere I can get away with it. Everywhere. It'll be a hobby.

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                                @aqua-letifer said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                                After the confederate statues, if the futhorc is next, I promise you that I will be spraypainting or wheatpasting the shit out of "peace and love" and "co-exist" in runic everywhere I can get away with it. Everywhere. It'll be a hobby.

                                I'll bring the brushes.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  @bachophile said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                                  @horace said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                                  @mik said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                                  You are of course correct, Horace. The problem is that any attempt at reason would simply be met with a tirade of nutzi indignation from he and his friends. There's just no point.

                                  It's anecdotes like this that make me believe that left wing nuttery is way more prevalent than right wing nuttery. I hear about right wing nuttery from twitter reports by jon, little elsewhere. I live with, and hear personal accounts of, left wing nuttery.

                                  I think that’s just selective hearing. Nuttery is strictly bell curve. Law of nature. Just like Newton’s laws of motion.

                                  No, culture creates nuttery, often more in one direction than another.

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                                  @horace said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                                  @bachophile said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                                  @horace said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                                  @mik said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                                  You are of course correct, Horace. The problem is that any attempt at reason would simply be met with a tirade of nutzi indignation from he and his friends. There's just no point.

                                  It's anecdotes like this that make me believe that left wing nuttery is way more prevalent than right wing nuttery. I hear about right wing nuttery from twitter reports by jon, little elsewhere. I live with, and hear personal accounts of, left wing nuttery.

                                  I think that’s just selective hearing. Nuttery is strictly bell curve. Law of nature. Just like Newton’s laws of motion.

                                  No, culture creates nuttery, often more in one direction than another.

                                  Nuttery appears to be a feature rather than a bug, especially in tribal rituals.

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                                    You must admit, that without left-wing nuttery and right-wing nuttery, the centrists couldn't handle carrying either torch and our lives would be all the more boring. And "reporters" could save hundreds of hours of writing nonsense.

                                    I liked the Nazi's boots. The ones that come up almost to the knee, and are polished like a high priced tier 1 polyester.

                                    That was one of only a couple of things my dad was able to bring over to the U.S. from his years in the Wehrmacht. I think he wore the boots under his pants both in Germany in the DP camps, and on the ship.

                                    When I was in Jr. High and in a rock band, and even into high school where we were playing gigs every weekend, I wore those boots. The souls were so worn out I had to use nails to keep it together. But everyone thought they were way cool, and were certainly a catalyst for lame jokes of every politically incorrect persuasion.

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                                      This cartoon struck me as appropriate.

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                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @aqua-letifer said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                                        They're far, far older than the Third Reich assholes who used them for their terrible propaganda.

                                        You're, of course, right. But try explaining that to someone who puts a swastika on his sleeve.

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                                        @george-k said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                                        @aqua-letifer said in The GOP’s golden calf:

                                        They're far, far older than the Third Reich assholes who used them for their terrible propaganda.

                                        You're, of course, right. But try explaining that to someone who puts a swastika on his sleeve.

                                        Sisters and female cousins tie a decorated string on your wrist for a particular annual Indian holiday. I remember one year, maybe I was 10 or 12 - one of the strings had a swastika on it.

                                        Edit: it was more subtle than this. Still, example:

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                                          (Almost) every temple in Taiwan (and rest of north Asia) will have many swastikas on them.

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