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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    I’m trying to figure out why anyone would consider this a scandal. I get the reaction of AG James and Representative Stefanik, but they’re bucking for Cuomo’s job.

    You were warned.

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      It’s kind of ironic. Before Cuomo was getting shit for having Covid patients stay in nursing homes. Now he’s getting shit because some of them went to hospitals and died there. Jesus.

      You were warned.

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        I am loathe to attack pretty much anyone in the context of the early - or even later - pandemic. It's been a rapidly moving target since day one with very little information to fight it.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          I’m trying to figure out why anyone would consider this a scandal. I get the reaction of AG James and Representative Stefanik, but they’re bucking for Cuomo’s job.

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          @jon-nyc said in The New York Report:

          I’m trying to figure out why anyone would consider this a scandal. I get the reaction of AG James and Representative Stefanik, but they’re bucking for Cuomo’s job.

          Ummm...how is it not a scandal? Cuomo's actions were single-handedly responsible for the explosion of COVID in New York. By May 2020 New York had 10 times the deaths that California had. And it looks like Cuomo tried to keep a lid on it, with help from his media friends, not only because he had a self-congratulatory book coming out but of course to keep himself politically viable.

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          • KincaidK Kincaid

            @jon-nyc said in The New York Report:

            I’m trying to figure out why anyone would consider this a scandal. I get the reaction of AG James and Representative Stefanik, but they’re bucking for Cuomo’s job.

            Ummm...how is it not a scandal? Cuomo's actions were single-handedly responsible for the explosion of COVID in New York. By May 2020 New York had 10 times the deaths that California had. And it looks like Cuomo tried to keep a lid on it, with help from his media friends, not only because he had a self-congratulatory book coming out but of course to keep himself politically viable.

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            @kincaid said in The New York Report:

            @jon-nyc said in The New York Report:

            I’m trying to figure out why anyone would consider this a scandal. I get the reaction of AG James and Representative Stefanik, but they’re bucking for Cuomo’s job.

            Ummm...how is it not a scandal? Cuomo's actions were single-handedly responsible for the explosion of COVID in New York. By May 2020 New York had 10 times the deaths that California had. And it looks like Cuomo tried to keep a lid on it, with help from his media friends, not only because he had a self-congratulatory book coming out but of course to keep himself politically viable.

            Wasn’t it infected travelers from Europe?

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            • KincaidK Kincaid

              @jon-nyc said in The New York Report:

              I’m trying to figure out why anyone would consider this a scandal. I get the reaction of AG James and Representative Stefanik, but they’re bucking for Cuomo’s job.

              Ummm...how is it not a scandal? Cuomo's actions were single-handedly responsible for the explosion of COVID in New York. By May 2020 New York had 10 times the deaths that California had. And it looks like Cuomo tried to keep a lid on it, with help from his media friends, not only because he had a self-congratulatory book coming out but of course to keep himself politically viable.

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              @kincaid said in The New York Report:

              @jon-nyc said in The New York Report:

              I’m trying to figure out why anyone would consider this a scandal. I get the reaction of AG James and Representative Stefanik, but they’re bucking for Cuomo’s job.

              Ummm...how is it not a scandal? Cuomo's actions were single-handedly responsible for the explosion of COVID in New York. By May 2020 New York had 10 times the deaths that California had. And it looks like Cuomo tried to keep a lid on it, with help from his media friends, not only because he had a self-congratulatory book coming out but of course to keep himself politically viable.

              And while still screaming for vents, he was sent help he never used.

              He couldn't have worked with his medical people, and created some kind of step-down facility besides putting an infectious patient back in the nursing home?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Wait a minute - this thread is about a report that Cuomo classified deaths that occurred in nursing homes as nursing home deaths and he classified deaths that occurred in hospitals as hospital deaths.

                People who want his job are painting that as a scandal.

                How is that a scandal?

                You were warned.

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                  jon-nyc
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                  #16

                  And @Jolly , specifically to you - explain your suggestion that the AG is ignoring this given that it was her office produced this report.

                  You were warned.

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                    Unfortunately the average lifespan in a nursing home is not very long to begin with. I don’t think I’ve ever read any discussion on what it means to have your life cut short in a nursing home. I know the human side of loved ones not being prepared is tough. I also know that often the amount of money that would be distributed in a lawsuit or settlement is usually based on some relationship between expected remaining life and loss of income.

                    What is the average life expectancy of nursing home patients?
                    The average length of stay before death was 13.7 months, while the median was five months. Fifty-three percent of nursing home residents in the study died within six months. Men died after a median stay of three months, while women died after a median stay of eight months.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Wait a minute - this thread is about a report that Cuomo classified deaths that occurred in nursing homes as nursing home deaths and he classified deaths that occurred in hospitals as hospital deaths.

                      People who want his job are painting that as a scandal.

                      How is that a scandal?

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                      LuFins Dad
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                      @jon-nyc said in The New York Report:

                      Wait a minute - this thread is about a report that Cuomo classified deaths that occurred in nursing homes as nursing home deaths and he classified deaths that occurred in hospitals as hospital deaths.

                      People who want his job are painting that as a scandal.

                      How is that a scandal?

                      How about because he defended himself by pointing to the "low" number of nursing home deaths, but those numbers didn't account for the nursing home residents that died in the hospital?

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        @jon-nyc said in The New York Report:

                        Wait a minute - this thread is about a report that Cuomo classified deaths that occurred in nursing homes as nursing home deaths and he classified deaths that occurred in hospitals as hospital deaths.

                        People who want his job are painting that as a scandal.

                        How is that a scandal?

                        How about because he defended himself by pointing to the "low" number of nursing home deaths, but those numbers didn't account for the nursing home residents that died in the hospital?

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                        mic drop

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