Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize
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wrote on 30 Jan 2021, 19:48 last edited by
In that case if BLM wins the Noble Peace Prize, I reckon some folks have a legitimate right to grieve the decision. I recall some folks disputing the award going to Nelson Mandela. Others felt that Barak Obama wasn't deserving either.
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wrote on 30 Jan 2021, 19:51 last edited by
The award really doesn't matter, does it?
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wrote on 30 Jan 2021, 20:04 last edited by
@rainman said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
The award really doesn't matter, does it?
I don't remember when I stopped caring.I do. It was precisely when I learned what it actually was.
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@rainman said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
The award really doesn't matter, does it?
I don't remember when I stopped caring.I do. It was precisely when I learned what it actually was.
wrote on 30 Jan 2021, 21:06 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
@rainman said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
The award really doesn't matter, does it?
I don't remember when I stopped caring.I do. It was precisely when I learned what it actually was.
But ceremonies are important.
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In that case if BLM wins the Noble Peace Prize, I reckon some folks have a legitimate right to grieve the decision. I recall some folks disputing the award going to Nelson Mandela. Others felt that Barak Obama wasn't deserving either.
wrote on 30 Jan 2021, 21:44 last edited by@renauda said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
In that case if BLM wins the Noble Peace Prize, I reckon some folks have a legitimate right to grieve the decision. I recall some folks disputing the award going to Nelson Mandela. Others felt that Barak Obama wasn't deserving either.
I don't know much about what Mandela might think, but I suspect Mr Obama would strongly approve of BLM winning the award.
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wrote on 30 Jan 2021, 22:05 last edited by
How many women have been raped at BLM protests?
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wrote on 30 Jan 2021, 22:13 last edited by
318 nominees for the Nobel Peace Prize in 2020. Long list, bound to be lots of clickbait in the pile.
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How many women have been raped at BLM protests?
wrote on 30 Jan 2021, 22:16 last edited by@lufins-dad said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
How many women have been raped at BLM protests?
How would anybody know? The microscope hasn't been put on BLM protests.
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318 nominees for the Nobel Peace Prize in 2020. Long list, bound to be lots of clickbait in the pile.
wrote on 30 Jan 2021, 22:18 last edited by@loki said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
318 nominees for the Nobel Peace Prize in 2020. Long list, bound to be lots of clickbait in the pile.
That does seem like a lot. However the fact remains that American pop culture would largely embrace a win for BLM. God knows a large majority of high status white liberals would.
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wrote on 30 Jan 2021, 23:14 last edited by Renauda
Regardless of American pop culture and what it thinks, other than very little, BLM has become an international movement. There were plenty of BLM sponsored protests and demonstrations in solidarity with what was happening in the US, up here last summer that did not result in riots, looting or seizures of public spaces. BLM also joined forces with the various indigenous groups against systemic racism. The only time problems arose is when groups of local rednecks and reactionaries showed up and deliberately provoked a fight. Usually the rednecks got their sorry asses whupped but good by the indigenous allies - you know, Larry's bro's. - of BLM.
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Regardless of American pop culture and what it thinks, other than very little, BLM has become an international movement. There were plenty of BLM sponsored protests and demonstrations in solidarity with what was happening in the US, up here last summer that did not result in riots, looting or seizures of public spaces. BLM also joined forces with the various indigenous groups against systemic racism. The only time problems arose is when groups of local rednecks and reactionaries showed up and deliberately provoked a fight. Usually the rednecks got their sorry asses whupped but good by the indigenous allies - you know, Larry's bro's. - of BLM.
wrote on 30 Jan 2021, 23:17 last edited by@renauda said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
The only time problems arose is when groups of local rednecks and reactionaries showed up and deliberately provoked a fight.
I have no knowledge of whether that did, or did not, happen in countries other than the US.
I watched much of Chicago and my neighboring suburbs burn with no redneck involvement.
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Regardless of American pop culture and what it thinks, other than very little, BLM has become an international movement. There were plenty of BLM sponsored protests and demonstrations in solidarity with what was happening in the US, up here last summer that did not result in riots, looting or seizures of public spaces. BLM also joined forces with the various indigenous groups against systemic racism. The only time problems arose is when groups of local rednecks and reactionaries showed up and deliberately provoked a fight. Usually the rednecks got their sorry asses whupped but good by the indigenous allies - you know, Larry's bro's. - of BLM.
wrote on 30 Jan 2021, 23:26 last edited by@renauda said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
Regardless of American pop culture and what it thinks, other than very little, BLM has become an international movement. There were plenty of BLM sponsored protests and demonstrations in solidarity with what was happening in the US, up here last summer that did not result in riots, looting or seizures of public spaces. BLM also joined forces with the various indigenous groups against systemic racism. The only time problems arose is when groups of local rednecks and reactionaries showed up and deliberately provoked a fight. Usually the rednecks got their sorry asses whupped but good by the indigenous allies - you know, Larry's bro's. - of BLM.
Sounds like a real good vs evil fight. Certainly that is the narrative propagated by high status white liberals here with no real skin in the game. Other than to feel better about themselves, being good.
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Regardless of American pop culture and what it thinks, other than very little, BLM has become an international movement. There were plenty of BLM sponsored protests and demonstrations in solidarity with what was happening in the US, up here last summer that did not result in riots, looting or seizures of public spaces. BLM also joined forces with the various indigenous groups against systemic racism. The only time problems arose is when groups of local rednecks and reactionaries showed up and deliberately provoked a fight. Usually the rednecks got their sorry asses whupped but good by the indigenous allies - you know, Larry's bro's. - of BLM.
wrote on 30 Jan 2021, 23:52 last edited by@renauda said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
Regardless of American pop culture and what it thinks, other than very little, BLM has become an international movement. There were plenty of BLM sponsored protests and demonstrations in solidarity with what was happening in the US, up here last summer that did not result in riots, looting or seizures of public spaces. BLM also joined forces with the various indigenous groups against systemic racism. The only time problems arose is when groups of local rednecks and reactionaries showed up and deliberately provoked a fight. Usually the rednecks got their sorry asses whupped but good by the indigenous allies - you know, Larry's bro's. - of BLM.
BLM's real success will not be measured with whupped rednecks
BLM's success will be measured by dead police
That is the reason the group was created, to kill police
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wrote on 31 Jan 2021, 00:46 last edited by Renauda
Not about dead cops here. Sorry (and I mean, with all due respect, sorry), but its not.
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@renauda said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
Regardless of American pop culture and what it thinks, other than very little, BLM has become an international movement. There were plenty of BLM sponsored protests and demonstrations in solidarity with what was happening in the US, up here last summer that did not result in riots, looting or seizures of public spaces. BLM also joined forces with the various indigenous groups against systemic racism. The only time problems arose is when groups of local rednecks and reactionaries showed up and deliberately provoked a fight. Usually the rednecks got their sorry asses whupped but good by the indigenous allies - you know, Larry's bro's. - of BLM.
Sounds like a real good vs evil fight. Certainly that is the narrative propagated by high status white liberals here with no real skin in the game. Other than to feel better about themselves, being good.
wrote on 31 Jan 2021, 00:59 last edited by@horace said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
Sounds like a real good vs evil fight. Certainly that is the narrative propagated by high status white liberals here with no real skin in the game.
Perhaps you should speak to some First Nations people about it too. Wouldn't hurt.
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@horace said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
Sounds like a real good vs evil fight. Certainly that is the narrative propagated by high status white liberals here with no real skin in the game.
Perhaps you should speak to some First Nations people about it too. Wouldn't hurt.
wrote on 31 Jan 2021, 01:04 last edited by@renauda said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
@horace said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
Sounds like a real good vs evil fight. Certainly that is the narrative propagated by high status white liberals here with no real skin in the game.
Perhaps you should speak to some First Nations people about it too. Wouldn't hurt.
It's really, really, not about them. If you want to know what it's about, check the viral thing that starts the riots.
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@renauda said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
@horace said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
Sounds like a real good vs evil fight. Certainly that is the narrative propagated by high status white liberals here with no real skin in the game.
Perhaps you should speak to some First Nations people about it too. Wouldn't hurt.
It's really, really, not about them. If you want to know what it's about, check the viral thing that starts the riots.
wrote on 31 Jan 2021, 01:12 last edited by Horace@horace said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
@renauda said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
@horace said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
Sounds like a real good vs evil fight. Certainly that is the narrative propagated by high status white liberals here with no real skin in the game.
Perhaps you should speak to some First Nations people about it too. Wouldn't hurt.
It's really, really, not about them. If you want to know what it's about, check the viral thing that starts the riots.
If BLM were a cohesive social idea of Good vs Evil, it would be about them. But it's really not. It's a tool used by high status liberals to attain and maintain power over the culture. There is huge rhetorical value within the idea that white cops kill black people because racism. From that can be derived broader systemic racism. No such rhetorical value exists within other race combinations. The whole culture is terrified of questioning that narrative. People do lose jobs. And as I've grown older, I've questioned more and more whether there's an actual difference between received social ideas parroted due to social intimidation, and real ideas observed by a rational human mind.
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@horace said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
@renauda said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
@horace said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
Sounds like a real good vs evil fight. Certainly that is the narrative propagated by high status white liberals here with no real skin in the game.
Perhaps you should speak to some First Nations people about it too. Wouldn't hurt.
It's really, really, not about them. If you want to know what it's about, check the viral thing that starts the riots.
If BLM were a cohesive social idea of Good vs Evil, it would be about them. But it's really not. It's a tool used by high status liberals to attain and maintain power over the culture. There is huge rhetorical value within the idea that white cops kill black people because racism. From that can be derived broader systemic racism. No such rhetorical value exists within other race combinations. The whole culture is terrified of questioning that narrative. People do lose jobs. And as I've grown older, I've questioned more and more whether there's an actual difference between received social ideas parroted due to social intimidation, and real ideas observed by a rational human mind.
wrote on 31 Jan 2021, 01:22 last edited by Renauda@horace said in Black Lives Matter is nominated for a Nobel peace prize:
No such rhetorical value exists within other race combinations. The whole culture is terrified of questioning that narrative.
That might be the case in the US. So you're probably right.
Here though it is much broader. BLM is one small aspect of systemic racism.
Still, I wouldn't claim BLM as exclusive to the US. It is elsewhere, may be just not quite as much in your face.
