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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #1

    But plenty of equity...

    https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/28/how-equity-will-destroy-america/

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      I think we’ll likely see ‘equity’ heavily circumscribed by Scotus in the next couple of years.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        I think we’ll likely see ‘equity’ heavily circumscribed by Scotus in the next couple of years.

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        @jon-nyc said in No Equality in America:

        I think we’ll likely see ‘equity’ heavily circumscribed by Scotus in the next couple of years.

        For your son's sake, you better hope so...

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          We have now had equity everywhere, including VP and P jobs.

          We survived, so far.

          If the whites can't figure out how to compete, that is on them.

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            #5

            Not exactly a novel point of view, but I can't disagree with the article. And it's not limited to the US. In fact, it's worse over here.

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            • CopperC Copper

              We have now had equity everywhere, including VP and P jobs.

              We survived, so far.

              If the whites can't figure out how to compete, that is on them.

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              @copper said in No Equality in America:

              We have now had equity everywhere, including VP and P jobs.

              We survived, so far.

              If the whites can't figure out how to compete, that is on them.

              I don't want to compete, I want to win.

              All I want is a level playing field.

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @copper said in No Equality in America:

                We have now had equity everywhere, including VP and P jobs.

                We survived, so far.

                If the whites can't figure out how to compete, that is on them.

                I don't want to compete, I want to win.

                All I want is a level playing field.

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                Doctor Phibes
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                @jolly said in No Equality in America:

                @copper said in No Equality in America:

                We have now had equity everywhere, including VP and P jobs.

                We survived, so far.

                If the whites can't figure out how to compete, that is on them.

                I don't want to compete, I want to win.

                All I want is a level playing field.

                If there's one thing that stands out about American history, and Western history in general, it's the total lack of winning experienced by white men, presumably due to the completely level playing field experienced by all.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @jolly said in No Equality in America:

                  @copper said in No Equality in America:

                  We have now had equity everywhere, including VP and P jobs.

                  We survived, so far.

                  If the whites can't figure out how to compete, that is on them.

                  I don't want to compete, I want to win.

                  All I want is a level playing field.

                  If there's one thing that stands out about American history, and Western history in general, it's the total lack of winning experienced by white men, presumably due to the completely level playing field experienced by all.

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                  LuFins Dad
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                  @doctor-phibes said in No Equality in America:

                  If there's one thing that stands out about American history, and Western history in general, it's the total lack of winning experienced by white men, presumably due to the completely level playing field experienced by all.

                  Meritocracy is a "white thing". As is (are? @Aqua-Letifer ) punctuality and work ethic. That's according to the National Museum of African American History and Culture.

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    @doctor-phibes said in No Equality in America:

                    If there's one thing that stands out about American history, and Western history in general, it's the total lack of winning experienced by white men, presumably due to the completely level playing field experienced by all.

                    Meritocracy is a "white thing". As is (are? @Aqua-Letifer ) punctuality and work ethic. That's according to the National Museum of African American History and Culture.

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                    @lufins-dad said in No Equality in America:

                    @doctor-phibes said in No Equality in America:

                    If there's one thing that stands out about American history, and Western history in general, it's the total lack of winning experienced by white men, presumably due to the completely level playing field experienced by all.

                    Meritocracy is a "white thing". As is (are? @Aqua-Letifer ) punctuality and work ethic. That's according to the National Museum of African American History and Culture.

                    That explains why Glenn Miller made so much more money than Count Basie. He showed up on time. Obviously, his work ethic wasn't in question. Anybody with that level of talent is always going to work hard.

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @lufins-dad said in No Equality in America:

                      @doctor-phibes said in No Equality in America:

                      If there's one thing that stands out about American history, and Western history in general, it's the total lack of winning experienced by white men, presumably due to the completely level playing field experienced by all.

                      Meritocracy is a "white thing". As is (are? @Aqua-Letifer ) punctuality and work ethic. That's according to the National Museum of African American History and Culture.

                      That explains why Glenn Miller made so much more money than Count Basie. He showed up on time. Obviously, his work ethic wasn't in question. Anybody with that level of talent is always going to work hard.

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        @lufins-dad said in No Equality in America:

                        @doctor-phibes said in No Equality in America:

                        If there's one thing that stands out about American history, and Western history in general, it's the total lack of winning experienced by white men, presumably due to the completely level playing field experienced by all.

                        Meritocracy is a "white thing". As is (are? @Aqua-Letifer ) punctuality and work ethic. That's according to the National Museum of African American History and Culture.

                        That explains why Glenn Miller made so much more money than Count Basie. He showed up on time. Obviously, his work ethic wasn't in question. Anybody with that level of talent is always going to work hard.

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                        @doctor-phibes said in No Equality in America:

                        Glenn Miller made so much more money than Count Basie

                        Thanks for the reference from before any of us were born.

                        I don't think we're unaware that racism has been a thing through human existence. We're trying pretty hard to counteract it these days, specifically in the west, and it's up to you to decide whether to give any credit for that whatsoever. There are plenty of countries left that really don't care what you think about it.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          Phibes! Two minutes for using an historical reference to make your point.

                          I hope a hockey analogy is considered inclusive in this den of iniquity.

                          Elbows up!

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                            You mean hockey, the whitest game in the world?

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • RenaudaR Renauda

                              Phibes! Two minutes for using an historical reference to make your point.

                              I hope a hockey analogy is considered inclusive in this den of iniquity.

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                              @renauda said in No Equality in America:

                              Phibes! Two minutes for using an historical reference to make your point.

                              I hope a hockey analogy is considered inclusive in this den of iniquity.

                              If one wants to establish racism (specifically white-on-black racism) through history, be my guest shooting those fish in that barrel. But current america ain't that barrel. It's about social ideas. Not human nature.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                @lufins-dad said in No Equality in America:

                                @doctor-phibes said in No Equality in America:

                                If there's one thing that stands out about American history, and Western history in general, it's the total lack of winning experienced by white men, presumably due to the completely level playing field experienced by all.

                                Meritocracy is a "white thing". As is (are? @Aqua-Letifer ) punctuality and work ethic. That's according to the National Museum of African American History and Culture.

                                That explains why Glenn Miller made so much more money than Count Basie. He showed up on time. Obviously, his work ethic wasn't in question. Anybody with that level of talent is always going to work hard.

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                                @doctor-phibes said in No Equality in America:

                                @lufins-dad said in No Equality in America:

                                @doctor-phibes said in No Equality in America:

                                If there's one thing that stands out about American history, and Western history in general, it's the total lack of winning experienced by white men, presumably due to the completely level playing field experienced by all.

                                Meritocracy is a "white thing". As is (are? @Aqua-Letifer ) punctuality and work ethic. That's according to the National Museum of African American History and Culture.

                                That explains why Glenn Miller made so much more money than Count Basie. He showed up on time. Obviously, his work ethic wasn't in question. Anybody with that level of talent is always going to work hard.

                                I profess ignorance on the subject, which is why I am glad that I had the National Museum of African American History and Culture to instruct me on "Whiteness" and it's value system.

                                The Brad

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  @doctor-phibes said in No Equality in America:

                                  Glenn Miller made so much more money than Count Basie

                                  Thanks for the reference from before any of us were born.

                                  I don't think we're unaware that racism has been a thing through human existence. We're trying pretty hard to counteract it these days, specifically in the west, and it's up to you to decide whether to give any credit for that whatsoever. There are plenty of countries left that really don't care what you think about it.

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                                  @horace said in No Equality in America:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in No Equality in America:

                                  Glenn Miller made so much more money than Count Basie

                                  Thanks for the reference from before any of us were born.

                                  I don't think we're unaware that racism has been a thing through human existence. We're trying pretty hard to counteract it these days, specifically in the west, and it's up to you to decide whether to give any credit for that whatsoever. There are plenty of countries left that really don't care what you think about it.

                                  I was just trying to provide a little light relief from the white guys complaining about how tough they have it.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    @horace said in No Equality in America:

                                    @doctor-phibes said in No Equality in America:

                                    Glenn Miller made so much more money than Count Basie

                                    Thanks for the reference from before any of us were born.

                                    I don't think we're unaware that racism has been a thing through human existence. We're trying pretty hard to counteract it these days, specifically in the west, and it's up to you to decide whether to give any credit for that whatsoever. There are plenty of countries left that really don't care what you think about it.

                                    I was just trying to provide a little light relief from the white guys complaining about how tough they have it.

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                                    @doctor-phibes said in No Equality in America:

                                    @horace said in No Equality in America:

                                    @doctor-phibes said in No Equality in America:

                                    Glenn Miller made so much more money than Count Basie

                                    Thanks for the reference from before any of us were born.

                                    I don't think we're unaware that racism has been a thing through human existence. We're trying pretty hard to counteract it these days, specifically in the west, and it's up to you to decide whether to give any credit for that whatsoever. There are plenty of countries left that really don't care what you think about it.

                                    I was just trying to provide a little light relief from the white guys complaining about how tough they have it.

                                    Which ones of us have ever done that again?

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      @renauda said in No Equality in America:

                                      Phibes! Two minutes for using an historical reference to make your point.

                                      I hope a hockey analogy is considered inclusive in this den of iniquity.

                                      If one wants to establish racism (specifically white-on-black racism) through history, be my guest shooting those fish in that barrel. But current america ain't that barrel. It's about social ideas. Not human nature.

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                                      Renauda
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                                      @horace

                                      What has a hockey analogy got to do with social ideas? Plenty of systemic racism in all countries, not just in the USA. Not just limited to whites and blacks, but I imagine you already knew that.

                                      The truth is USA get first billing internationally because of what the country represents globally and how it wishes others to perceive it. It can no more shed itself of its past which defined people by race than Europe can shed itself of its past that defined people by their class and to a lesser extent, their religion.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        @horace

                                        What has a hockey analogy got to do with social ideas? Plenty of systemic racism in all countries, not just in the USA. Not just limited to whites and blacks, but I imagine you already knew that.

                                        The truth is USA get first billing internationally because of what the country represents globally and how it wishes others to perceive it. It can no more shed itself of its past which defined people by race than Europe can shed itself of its past that defined people by their class and to a lesser extent, their religion.

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                                        @renauda said in No Equality in America:

                                        @horace

                                        What has a hockey analogy got to do with social ideas? Plenty of systemic racism in all countries, not just in the USA. Not just limited to whites and blacks, but I imagine you already knew that.

                                        The truth is USA get first billing internationally because of what the country represents globally and how it wishes others to perceive it. It can no more shed itself of its past which defined people by race than Europe can shed itself its past that defined people by their class and to a lesser extent, their religion.

                                        Yes, humans want to win. It's how we survive as individuals. I personally never lose sight of that, regardless of what other people tell me about their virtue.

                                        Those who've already won and who have a bunkered winning position sometimes present themselves as our most virtuous. Those are the ones I have issue with, mostly.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          @doctor-phibes said in No Equality in America:

                                          If there's one thing that stands out about American history, and Western history in general, it's the total lack of winning experienced by white men, presumably due to the completely level playing field experienced by all.

                                          Meritocracy is a "white thing". As is (are? @Aqua-Letifer ) punctuality and work ethic. That's according to the National Museum of African American History and Culture.

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                                          @lufins-dad said in No Equality in America:

                                          @doctor-phibes said in No Equality in America:

                                          If there's one thing that stands out about American history, and Western history in general, it's the total lack of winning experienced by white men, presumably due to the completely level playing field experienced by all.

                                          Meritocracy is a "white thing". As is (are? @Aqua-Letifer ) punctuality and work ethic. That's according to the National Museum of African American History and Culture.

                                          As are, yeah.

                                          Please love yourself.

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