Trump irrelevant?
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In what sense is Trump irrelevant?
What is the question or is this a question even or an impulse or wishful thinking or beat down?
Hard to know anymore when a question is being asked anymore or as Lin Wood would say it’s just rhetorical hyperbole.
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His perceived audience is no longer of any use to him insofar as getting what he wants to get. So there's no need to talk to them.
@horace said in Trump irrelevant?:
I've heard here many times that Trump loves adulation and adoration. Not sure it washes that his political supporters are no longer of use to him.
There is ample evidence over the past four or five years at least, that in this regard he is into the 3Rs - reduce, reuse & recycle.
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@horace said in Trump irrelevant?:
I've heard here many times that Trump loves adulation and adoration. Not sure it washes that his political supporters are no longer of use to him.
There is ample evidence over the past four or five years at least, that in this regard he is into the 3Rs - reduce, reuse & recycle.
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I've heard here many times that Trump loves adulation and adoration. Not sure it washes that his political supporters are no longer of use to him.
Cats wrote: His perceived audience is no longer of any use to him insofar as getting what he wants to get. So there's no need to talk to them.
Gadzooks! You mean he views other people as an exploitable resource to be cast off once they cease to be of any utility to him?
Say it isn't so!
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Taking the twit out of Twitter.
(I cleaned that up a lot)
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@jon-nyc said in Trump irrelevant?:
I would call wokeness a cult.
But not the police narrative all by itself.
Ok. How are you defining members of the Trump cult? What are the relative sizes of the two cults under discussion?
@horace said in Trump irrelevant?:
@jon-nyc said in Trump irrelevant?:
I would call wokeness a cult.
But not the police narrative all by itself.
Ok. How are you defining members of the Trump cult? What are the relative sizes of the two cults under discussion?
I would peg the size of the cult at about 20% of the Trump vote.
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@horace said in Trump irrelevant?:
@jon-nyc said in Trump irrelevant?:
I would call wokeness a cult.
But not the police narrative all by itself.
Ok. How are you defining members of the Trump cult? What are the relative sizes of the two cults under discussion?
I would peg the size of the cult at about 20% of the Trump vote.
@kincaid said in Trump irrelevant?:
@horace said in Trump irrelevant?:
@jon-nyc said in Trump irrelevant?:
I would call wokeness a cult.
But not the police narrative all by itself.
Ok. How are you defining members of the Trump cult? What are the relative sizes of the two cults under discussion?
I would peg the size of the cult at about 20% of the Trump vote.
That's still 10-15M people.
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And that is why he will not set up a third party. A party that receives 15 or 20 million votes in a national election would be very far down the results.
If he wants to retain any type of influence, it will have to be staying in the party. But even then, people have short memory. Time moves on.
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He could re-form the Bull Moose Party.
A bit short on Moose, but with a lot of extra Bull to make up for it.
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He could re-form the Bull Moose Party.
A bit short on Moose, but with a lot of extra Bull to make up for it.
@doctor-phibes said in Trump irrelevant?:
A bit short on Moose, but with a lot of extra Bull to make up for it.
555555555! Good one!
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McCarthy: The Democrats are playing a long game with impeachment.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/01/democrats-are-laying-a-trap-with-trumps-impeachment-trial/
To summarize, Republicans are trying to signal that Democrats should just drop the whole thing. The votes are not there; ergo, it’s a waste of time. All it will do is raise Trump’s profile, give him a platform to air his grievances, and launch his political revival. Who wants that?
The Democrats want that.
Despite President Biden’s pretensions about bringing our nation together, Democrats want to impeach Trump because it will be divisive, not despite its divisiveness. They are banking on his being acquitted and politically revived, not underestimating that possibility. They want him to run for office again, not banish him.
Yes, the former president’s impeachment trial will be divisive for the country, but not in a way that troubles the Democrats. Rather, it will unite the Left while intensifying the Right’s internecine conflict.
With Republicans having agreed to delay the trial proceedings for a couple of weeks, impeachment will be a boon for the fledgling Biden administration. The new president will get his major appointees confirmed and installed in the various executive departments and agencies. Meantime, Biden will get a double windfall.
First, impeachment will distract attention from the new administration’s unimpressive start on vaccine roll-out. Biden was not elected because Americans were desperate to rejoin the Paris climate accords and ensure that mediocre boy-athletes could rack up medals in girls’ high-school sports. He was elected to do two things: not be Trump temperamentally and lead the country past COVID-19. So far, as Jim Geraghty expertly details daily, the vaccination ramp-up has been less than ambitious; the biggest problems continue to be coordination with and distribution by Democrat-controlled states; and the biggest scandal is extortion by the Democrat-patron teachers unions, which is keeping kids out of public schools. Impeachment will give the media-Democrat complex something else to spotlight.
Second, as an opportunity for centrist Democrats and post-American progressives to unite against their arch-nemesis, impeachment will, for a time, distract attention from President Moderate-Joe’s efforts to throw his left flank the red meat it was mostly denied in his cabinet selections. A few weeks of Donald Trump coverage couldn’t come at a better time, with Biden appeasing the climate-alarmists, killing the popular Keystone XL pipeline (and killing thousands of jobs with it), making way for a raft of economy-stifling regulations, doubling down on transgender ideology and immigration amnesty, planning to rejoin the ludicrous Iran nuclear deal, and intensifying societal tensions by selectively condemning insurrectionist violence.
Finally, as the Left perceptively sees it, the impeachment trial is already causing deep rifts in Republican and conservative circles. Democrats do not delude themselves into believing Trump will be convicted at the Senate trial and disqualified from future office. To the contrary, they want him to remain a force, wreaking havoc on the 2022 GOP midterm-election effort and the 2024 presidential campaign — splitting the party; forcing the nomination of Trump-populists with narrow appeal who cannot win general elections; and either getting himself nominated or mounting an independent presidential run that will geometrically increase the chance that Democrats hold on to the White House.
Democrats do not want to disqualify Trump. They want to keep him radioactive. They want to remind the country in lurid detail of the former president’s role in the lethal January 6 rioting — the demagogic speech, the failure to take action while the seat of government was under siege. And then they want to force a vote — conviction or acquittal — that will be framed as every GOP senator’s choice to stand with Trump or against him.
How do Democrats want Republicans to vote? No matter . . . it’s a win-win.
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good piece. It's clear that the Democrats are going to attempt to wring Trump of every bit of his rhetorical usefulness long after he is gone. The douchebag reality TV star who became president on the shoulders of idiots. He's the modern Hitler. Good job, everybody who ever hated him.
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Miscalculation.
Louisiana is buzzing today over the possible loss of energy sector jobs. So is Texas. Better yet, people in New Mexico are starting to be unhappy with Mr. Biden.
I also think we are in for an economic bumpy ride. Biden's economic policies guarantee it.
Lastly, people in California and Michigan aren't stupid about why their economies are suddenly being opened back up, even as COVID numbers have not dropped significantly.
What happens if Biden continues his slide into senility?
https://www.sgtreport.com/2021/01/hot-mic-biden-says-i-dont-know-what-im-signing-signs-executive-order-anyway/What happens if the economy heads South and people remember the good times under Trump. Especially blacks and latinos?
What happens if Biden cannot stamp out COVID, as he has already admitted?
Do the Dens want to continue to keep Trump front and center, handing him a bully pulpit?
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His perceived audience is no longer of any use to him insofar as getting what he wants to get. So there's no need to talk to them.
@catseye3 said in Trump irrelevant?:
His perceived audience is no longer of any use to him insofar as getting what he wants to get. So there's no need to talk to them.
I dunno, Cats.
I'm watching Kerry now. Looks like they are hitting the ground running with climate change and a certain disdain for those neanderthals that work in fossil fuels. That's going to be Big Money during an era of Covid and the repercussions of Covid. Might be a lot of angry frustrated people in a few years that once again get tired of being lectured to by the clean elite wealth class.
