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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
    #2

    Honestly it’s just hard for him to stay relevant without twitter.

    I suspect losing twitter was on par with losing the presidency in terms of removing him from the center of national conversation.

    Senate trial will change that. For a while, anyway.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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    • Doctor PhibesD Online
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      Doctor Phibes
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      #3

      Taking the twit out of Twitter.

      (I cleaned that up a lot)

      I was only joking

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        #4

        I agree with Jon. Twitter seem to be his main method of communication, and without that, it is difficult.

        However, I am not surprised he is quiet at the moment. It is understandable after being president, that you may want to take a break for a period of time.

        I would expect that he will start going on the TV shows on networks that are friendly to him. He will be a regular person and those shows, and try and continue to keep himself in the spotlight a bit.

        I don’t think he will form a third-party however. If he does that, then Republics will have no reason to worry about him anymore. While he is still in the republic party, there is I think still some fear and look over the shoulder towards him.

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          Catseye3
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          #5

          His perceived audience is no longer of any use to him insofar as getting what he wants to get. So there's no need to talk to them.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
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            #6

            He is no longer president. If one checks history, one will find that after a president leaves office, he (or she!) loses importance.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              jon-nyc
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              #7

              True but this is the first loser who also leads a cult.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                True but this is the first loser who also leads a cult.

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                Horace
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                #8

                @jon-nyc said in Trump irrelevant?:

                True but this is the first loser who also leads a cult.

                Waiting for you to show your consistency and call those who are all-in on the police racism narrative a "cult".

                Education is extremely important.

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #9

                  I would call wokeness a cult.

                  But not the police narrative all by itself.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    I would call wokeness a cult.

                    But not the police narrative all by itself.

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                    Horace
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                    #10

                    @jon-nyc said in Trump irrelevant?:

                    I would call wokeness a cult.

                    But not the police narrative all by itself.

                    Ok. How are you defining members of the Trump cult? What are the relative sizes of the two cults under discussion?

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      Loki
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #11

                      In what sense is Trump irrelevant?

                      What is the question or is this a question even or an impulse or wishful thinking or beat down?

                      Hard to know anymore when a question is being asked anymore or as Lin Wood would say it’s just rhetorical hyperbole.

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                      • L Loki

                        In what sense is Trump irrelevant?

                        What is the question or is this a question even or an impulse or wishful thinking or beat down?

                        Hard to know anymore when a question is being asked anymore or as Lin Wood would say it’s just rhetorical hyperbole.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #12

                        @loki said in Trump irrelevant?:

                        In what sense is Trump irrelevant?

                        He's no longer a car alarm sounding in the background of millions of people's heads.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • Catseye3C Catseye3

                          His perceived audience is no longer of any use to him insofar as getting what he wants to get. So there's no need to talk to them.

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                          Renauda
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                          #13

                          @horace said in Trump irrelevant?:

                          I've heard here many times that Trump loves adulation and adoration. Not sure it washes that his political supporters are no longer of use to him.

                          There is ample evidence over the past four or five years at least, that in this regard he is into the 3Rs - reduce, reuse & recycle.

                          Elbows up!

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                            @horace said in Trump irrelevant?:

                            I've heard here many times that Trump loves adulation and adoration. Not sure it washes that his political supporters are no longer of use to him.

                            There is ample evidence over the past four or five years at least, that in this regard he is into the 3Rs - reduce, reuse & recycle.

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                            @renauda said in Trump irrelevant?:

                            Gadzooks! You mean he views other people as an exploitable resource to be cast off once they cease to be of any utility to him?
                            Say it isn't so!

                            I'm sorry, Renauda. You must be brave.

                            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              Horace
                              wrote on last edited by
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                              I've heard here many times that Trump loves adulation and adoration. Not sure it washes that his political supporters are no longer of use to him.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • jon-nycJ Online
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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #16

                                I agree Horace. All he really has is the loyalty of those who share his resentments and the fealty of those who fear his base.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  Horace
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                                  Thanks again for the unity, jon. How again are you defining members of his cult, and how again do you perceive the size of that cult, as compared to the "wokeness" cult you acknowledged above?

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    I've heard here many times that Trump loves adulation and adoration. Not sure it washes that his political supporters are no longer of use to him.

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                                    #18

                                    Cats wrote: His perceived audience is no longer of any use to him insofar as getting what he wants to get. So there's no need to talk to them.

                                    Gadzooks! You mean he views other people as an exploitable resource to be cast off once they cease to be of any utility to him?

                                    Say it isn't so!

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      Taking the twit out of Twitter.

                                      (I cleaned that up a lot)

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #19

                                      @doctor-phibes said in Trump irrelevant?:

                                      Taking the twit out of Twitter.

                                      (I cleaned that up a lot)

                                      😁😁😁

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        @jon-nyc said in Trump irrelevant?:

                                        I would call wokeness a cult.

                                        But not the police narrative all by itself.

                                        Ok. How are you defining members of the Trump cult? What are the relative sizes of the two cults under discussion?

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                                        Kincaid
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                                        @horace said in Trump irrelevant?:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Trump irrelevant?:

                                        I would call wokeness a cult.

                                        But not the police narrative all by itself.

                                        Ok. How are you defining members of the Trump cult? What are the relative sizes of the two cults under discussion?

                                        I would peg the size of the cult at about 20% of the Trump vote.

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                                        • KincaidK Kincaid

                                          @horace said in Trump irrelevant?:

                                          @jon-nyc said in Trump irrelevant?:

                                          I would call wokeness a cult.

                                          But not the police narrative all by itself.

                                          Ok. How are you defining members of the Trump cult? What are the relative sizes of the two cults under discussion?

                                          I would peg the size of the cult at about 20% of the Trump vote.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #21

                                          @kincaid said in Trump irrelevant?:

                                          @horace said in Trump irrelevant?:

                                          @jon-nyc said in Trump irrelevant?:

                                          I would call wokeness a cult.

                                          But not the police narrative all by itself.

                                          Ok. How are you defining members of the Trump cult? What are the relative sizes of the two cults under discussion?

                                          I would peg the size of the cult at about 20% of the Trump vote.

                                          That's still 10-15M people.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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