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wrote on 26 Jan 2021, 18:13 last edited by
It's a time-honored custom to not like President's executive orders. Fox News went apoplectic over Obama's use of executive orders - and yet President Obama issued fewer executive orders than any President since Grover Cleveland.
Similarly, Democrats and media were horrified at the Dark Lord's use of executive orders for the past 4 years.
I don't think anyone really likes the concept of executive fiat - but congress hasn't functioned all that well in a while.
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wrote on 26 Jan 2021, 18:51 last edited by
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wrote on 26 Jan 2021, 18:59 last edited by
"An executive order is a signed, written, and published directive from the President of the United States that manages operations of the federal government. ... Executive orders are not legislation; they require no approval from Congress, and Congress cannot simply overturn them." -- American Bar Association
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wrote on 26 Jan 2021, 19:49 last edited by
That’s nice. Shall we talk about DACA?
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wrote on 26 Jan 2021, 19:52 last edited by xenon
I didn't pay attention to EO's during the Bush days.
During Obama days they were seen as undemocratic.
Trump used them just as much, and one-upped Obama by perfecting the "everything is an emergency" executive order.
They're flimsy though - and fake policy. I think Obama specifically told Trump that one of his failings was using too many EOs.
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wrote on 26 Jan 2021, 19:57 last edited by
It seems to me that being either a future president or former president is a much easier job than being a president.
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@taiwan_girl said in Pen and a Phone:
I really don’t know anything about them, so don’t have much of an opinion.
Go here, TG: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/executive-orders
wrote on 27 Jan 2021, 00:10 last edited by@catseye3 said in Pen and a Phone:
@taiwan_girl said in Pen and a Phone:
I really don’t know anything about them, so don’t have much of an opinion.
Go here, TG: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/executive-orders
Interesting Cats. Thanks!! It appears that they were almost never used until early 1900's, and then used alot and has gone back down a bit.
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wrote on 27 Jan 2021, 01:06 last edited by
@george-k said in Pen and a Phone:
That’s nice. Shall we talk about DACA?
Nobody wants to touch that one...
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@george-k said in Pen and a Phone:
That’s nice. Shall we talk about DACA?
Nobody wants to touch that one...
wrote on 27 Jan 2021, 01:20 last edited by@jolly said in Pen and a Phone:
@george-k said in Pen and a Phone:
That’s nice. Shall we talk about DACA?
Nobody wants to touch that one...
Why didn’t the Trump admin issue an order dismantling DACA?
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@jolly said in Pen and a Phone:
@george-k said in Pen and a Phone:
That’s nice. Shall we talk about DACA?
Nobody wants to touch that one...
Why didn’t the Trump admin issue an order dismantling DACA?
wrote on 27 Jan 2021, 01:23 last edited by@xenon said in Pen and a Phone:
@jolly said in Pen and a Phone:
@george-k said in Pen and a Phone:
That’s nice. Shall we talk about DACA?
Nobody wants to touch that one...
Why didn’t the Trump admin issue an order dismantling DACA?
Where the hell have you been?
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@xenon said in Pen and a Phone:
@jolly said in Pen and a Phone:
@george-k said in Pen and a Phone:
That’s nice. Shall we talk about DACA?
Nobody wants to touch that one...
Why didn’t the Trump admin issue an order dismantling DACA?
Where the hell have you been?
wrote on 27 Jan 2021, 01:33 last edited by@jolly said in Pen and a Phone:
@xenon said in Pen and a Phone:
@jolly said in Pen and a Phone:
@george-k said in Pen and a Phone:
That’s nice. Shall we talk about DACA?
Nobody wants to touch that one...
Why didn’t the Trump admin issue an order dismantling DACA?
Where the hell have you been?
He tried to have the original order by Obama called unconstitutional because he administration didn't want to take the flak.
There was absolutely nothing stopping the administration from issuing a new order dismantling DACA.
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wrote on 27 Jan 2021, 06:55 last edited by
As some wag said of Biden's EO binge, "Good thing we got that Fascist wannabe dictator Trump out of office!"