Remind me where democracy ends again?
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wrote on 21 Jan 2021, 17:58 last edited by
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wrote on 21 Jan 2021, 18:04 last edited by
My guess is the latter is federal lands only which was his position before.
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wrote on 21 Jan 2021, 18:08 last edited by jon-nyc
It’s federal lands only, which he campaigned on. So now the question to ask is, is this Jack guy sloppy or malevolently trying to deceive you. Is he a journalist?
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wrote on 21 Jan 2021, 18:22 last edited by
Here's the Washington Post from 3 days ago:
"Biden says his administration would ban new permits for oil and gas production on federal lands, though he says he does not support a fracking ban."
That's vague enough that one can read it either way. I suppose in the context of the sentence, you could say he doesn't support the ban.
According to this, fracking on federal land accounts for about 10% of natural gas. That's a lot.
It also says, " Biden's proposal to ban fracking on federal lands would, in fact, slow that shift. But it's false to say he would ban fracking altogether."
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wrote on 21 Jan 2021, 18:26 last edited by jon-nyc
George here’s the first piece your guy linked to. It’s quite clear what Trump was claiming vs what Biden’s actual position was and still is. (fWIW, The Trump lie was about PA. Almost all of the federal land is out west.)
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wrote on 21 Jan 2021, 18:30 last edited by
Federal land in PA is almost entirely the Allegheny forest preserve.
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wrote on 21 Jan 2021, 18:31 last edited by
Where the fracking is.
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wrote on 21 Jan 2021, 18:41 last edited by
what the frack!
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wrote on 21 Jan 2021, 18:42 last edited by
Some detail from a local PA news station in October
The Democratic party’s progressive wing has pushed for a ban on fracking because of the environmental damage drilling caused in some areas, including Pennsylvania.
But a president cannot ban fracking on private land — only Congress can do that. And the vast majority of fracking in Pennsylvania takes place on private and state land. The state leases about 11 percent of its land — 251,233 acres — to gas drillers.
What Biden says he wants to do — as part of his larger plan to tackle climate change — is stop leasing any new oil and gas rights on federal land.
But Pennsylvania has very little federal land. The only place where federal leases exist are in the Allegheny National Forest, where there are three oil and gas leases that span about 855 acres.