RUSSIA!!!
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Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) want a commission to investigate an unsupported allegation that President Donald Trump worked with Russian President Vladimir Putin to orchestrate a Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol.
Pelosi appeared on a special episode of Clinton’s podcast, “You and Me Both,” on Monday to discuss the Capitol riot and the incoming Biden administration. During the roughly 30-minute conversation, Clinton and Pelosi floated a conspiracy theory that Putin was the mastermind behind the riot and that Trump is a Russian puppet.
Clinton began: “I hope historically we will find out who [Trump is] beholden to, who pulls his strings. I would love to see his phone records to see whether he was talking to Putin the day that the insurgents invaded our Capitol. But we now know that not just him, but his enablers, his accomplices, his cult members, have the same disregard for democracy.”
Clinton continued, asking the House speaker if she thinks “we need a 9/11-type commission to investigate and report everything that they can pull together and explain what happened?”
“I do,” Pelosi responded. “To your point of who is he beholden to, as I’ve said over and over, as I said to him in that picture with my blue suit as I was leaving, what I was saying to him as I was pointing, rudely, at him: ‘With you, Mr. President, all roads lead to Putin.’ I don’t know what Putin has on him politically, financially, or personally, but what happened last week was a gift to Putin, because Putin wants to undermine democracy in our country and throughout the world.”
“And these people, unbeknownst to them, maybe, are Putin puppets,” Pelosi added. “They were doing Putin’s business when they did that at the incitement of an insurrection by the president of the United States.”
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Backlash (though very mild) from the left:
https://www.foxnews.com/media/hillary-clinton-nancy-pelosi-russiagateHearing these two women converse is a terrible experience -- terrible to the senses, the mind, the soul! Terrible! My ears! My brain!!
Gonna call them the Nattering Nabobettes from now on -- assuming an ungentle universe subjects us to another such hideosity.
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The full Podcast episode:
Skip to somewhere around the 16:15 mark to lead into the "9/11-type commission" and the "Putin" reference. The speculation that Trump "worked with Putin" is overwrought but the point about Trump and his supporters unwittingly played into Putin's hands is probably fair. It's not hard to imagine Putin rubbing his hands in glee as he learns that the US Capitol has been run over by a mob.
As for what level of investigation is warranted, this does not rise to the "9/11" level but it certainly exceeds the "Benghazi" level. Whatever the parallels, I do want to see thorough investigation of the incident.
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The full Podcast episode:
Skip to somewhere around the 16:15 mark to lead into the "9/11-type commission" and the "Putin" reference. The speculation that Trump "worked with Putin" is overwrought but the point about Trump and his supporters unwittingly played into Putin's hands is probably fair. It's not hard to imagine Putin rubbing his hands in glee as he learns that the US Capitol has been run over by a mob.
As for what level of investigation is warranted, this does not rise to the "9/11" level but it certainly exceeds the "Benghazi" level. Whatever the parallels, I do want to see thorough investigation of the incident.
The full Podcast episode:
Skip to somewhere around the 16:15 mark to lead into the "9/11-type commission" and the "Putin" reference. The speculation that Trump "worked with Putin" is overwrought but the point about Trump and his supporters unwittingly played into Putin's hands is probably fair. It's not hard to imagine Putin rubbing his hands in glee as he learns that the US Capitol has been run over by a mob.
As for what level of investigation is warranted, this does not rise to the "9/11" level but it certainly exceeds the "Benghazi" level. Whatever the parallels, I do want to see thorough investigation of the incident.
Yes everything is overdetermined, if not overwrought. It's how we can all be pretending to make reasonable points.
You want an investigation into why a few imbeciles decided to walk into the Capitol? Really? You think it required a mastermind? It only required some people who noticed that the Capitol was unguarded. You may as well launch an investigation into why graffiti under your favorite bridge happens.
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The full Podcast episode:
Skip to somewhere around the 16:15 mark to lead into the "9/11-type commission" and the "Putin" reference. The speculation that Trump "worked with Putin" is overwrought but the point about Trump and his supporters unwittingly played into Putin's hands is probably fair. It's not hard to imagine Putin rubbing his hands in glee as he learns that the US Capitol has been run over by a mob.
As for what level of investigation is warranted, this does not rise to the "9/11" level but it certainly exceeds the "Benghazi" level. Whatever the parallels, I do want to see thorough investigation of the incident.
Yes everything is overdetermined, if not overwrought. It's how we can all be pretending to make reasonable points.
You want an investigation into why a few imbeciles decided to walk into the Capitol? Really? You think it required a mastermind? It only required some people who noticed that the Capitol was unguarded. You may as well launch an investigation into why graffiti under your favorite bridge happens.
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Or maybe we can investigate why it is that nothingburgers have nothinglettuce and nothingketchup on them.
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The full Podcast episode:
Skip to somewhere around the 16:15 mark to lead into the "9/11-type commission" and the "Putin" reference. The speculation that Trump "worked with Putin" is overwrought but the point about Trump and his supporters unwittingly played into Putin's hands is probably fair. It's not hard to imagine Putin rubbing his hands in glee as he learns that the US Capitol has been run over by a mob.
As for what level of investigation is warranted, this does not rise to the "9/11" level but it certainly exceeds the "Benghazi" level. Whatever the parallels, I do want to see thorough investigation of the incident.
It's not hard to imagine Putin rubbing his hands in glee as he learns that the US Capitol has been run over by a mob.
Undoubtedly. It especially plays as a powerful distractor for the Russian public to demonstrate just how good things are at home compared to the effete and liberal West. From what I can gather, the annual Russian budget to conduct cyber disinformation attacks on US social media targets is approximately the cost of an F-35B (USD 115 million). Creating mayhem in the US through social media platforms is very beneficial to Putin . When incidents occur like what happened 6 January in Washington, it is a propaganda dividend in gold.
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It's not hard to imagine Putin rubbing his hands in glee as he learns that the US Capitol has been run over by a mob.
Undoubtedly. It especially plays as a powerful distractor for the Russian public to demonstrate just how good things are at home compared to the effete and liberal West. From what I can gather, the annual Russian budget to conduct cyber disinformation attacks on US social media targets is approximately the cost of an F-35B (USD 115 million). Creating mayhem in the US through social media platforms is very beneficial to Putin . When incidents occur like what happened 6 January in Washington, it is a propaganda dividend in gold.
It's not hard to imagine Putin rubbing his hands in glee as he learns that the US Capitol has been run over by a mob.
Undoubtedly. It especially plays as a powerful distractor for the Russian public to demonstrate just how good things are at home compared to the effete and liberal West. From what I can gather, the annual Russian budget to conduct cyber disinformation attacks on US social media targets is approximately the cost of an F-35B (USD 115 million). Creating mayhem in the US through social media platforms is very beneficial to Putin . When incidents occur like what happened 6 January in Washington, it is a propaganda dividend in gold.
So who here disagrees that the Capitol raid played to the American left and to Putin?
Education is extremely important.
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It's not hard to imagine Putin rubbing his hands in glee as he learns that the US Capitol has been run over by a mob.
Undoubtedly. It especially plays as a powerful distractor for the Russian public to demonstrate just how good things are at home compared to the effete and liberal West. From what I can gather, the annual Russian budget to conduct cyber disinformation attacks on US social media targets is approximately the cost of an F-35B (USD 115 million). Creating mayhem in the US through social media platforms is very beneficial to Putin . When incidents occur like what happened 6 January in Washington, it is a propaganda dividend in gold.
So who here disagrees that the Capitol raid played to the American left and to Putin?
It's not hard to imagine Putin rubbing his hands in glee as he learns that the US Capitol has been run over by a mob.
Undoubtedly. It especially plays as a powerful distractor for the Russian public to demonstrate just how good things are at home compared to the effete and liberal West. From what I can gather, the annual Russian budget to conduct cyber disinformation attacks on US social media targets is approximately the cost of an F-35B (USD 115 million). Creating mayhem in the US through social media platforms is very beneficial to Putin . When incidents occur like what happened 6 January in Washington, it is a propaganda dividend in gold.
So who here disagrees that the Capitol raid played to the American left and to Putin?
Nope. So stupid you would pray Antifa did it. The new definition Of own goal.
Unless there is 3D chess which I would love to hear.
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It's not hard to imagine Putin rubbing his hands in glee as he learns that the US Capitol has been run over by a mob.
Undoubtedly. It especially plays as a powerful distractor for the Russian public to demonstrate just how good things are at home compared to the effete and liberal West. From what I can gather, the annual Russian budget to conduct cyber disinformation attacks on US social media targets is approximately the cost of an F-35B (USD 115 million). Creating mayhem in the US through social media platforms is very beneficial to Putin . When incidents occur like what happened 6 January in Washington, it is a propaganda dividend in gold.
So who here disagrees that the Capitol raid played to the American left and to Putin?
So who here disagrees that the Capitol raid played to the American left and to Putin?
Certainly it played to the left in the headlines, obviously.
In our pocketbooks? Yes, it will be used as an excuse to spend money, the current security presence around DC for example.
At the ballot box? Maybe, maybe not. At the moment the blame goes 100% to one man who might not be on any more ballots.
