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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    I think we’re going to learn a lot in the next week or two.

    The US Attorney basically told us we’d be shocked. He said what we’ve seen so far are the idiots from social media get arrested. But he said the guys doing the most serious stuff weren’t live streaming it. He said there will be serious charges - “charges that carry 10, 20 year prison sentences”.

    McConnell seems to have changed his mind on impeachment in the last 24 hours. He gets the highest level briefings in what they’ve uncovered.

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    @jon-nyc said in What the hell were they thinking?:

    I think we’re going to learn a lot in the next week or two.

    The US Attorney basically told us we’d be shocked. He said what we’ve seen so far are the idiots from social media get arrested. But he said the guys doing the most serious stuff weren’t live streaming it. He said there will be serious charges - “charges that carry 10, 20 year prison sentences”.

    McConnell seems to have changed his mind on impeachment in the last 24 hours. He gets the highest level briefings in what they’ve uncovered.

    We can only react to what is known and we have come to rely on live reporting as it’s usually representational. Big miss especially as we would expect from the media it to be overdone if anything.

    Bowser asking for no national guard and the FBI keep their intelligence a secret are going t o be very relevant to what went wrong.

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      @jon-nyc said in What the hell were they thinking?:

      I think we’re going to learn a lot in the next week or two.

      The US Attorney basically told us we’d be shocked. He said what we’ve seen so far are the idiots from social media get arrested. But he said the guys doing the most serious stuff weren’t live streaming it. He said there will be serious charges - “charges that carry 10, 20 year prison sentences”.

      McConnell seems to have changed his mind on impeachment in the last 24 hours. He gets the highest level briefings in what they’ve uncovered.

      We can only react to what is known and we have come to rely on live reporting as it’s usually representational. Big miss especially as we would expect from the media it to be overdone if anything.

      Bowser asking for no national guard and the FBI keep their intelligence a secret are going t o be very relevant to what went wrong.

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      @loki said in What the hell were they thinking?:

      Bowser asking for no national guard

      Really? I didn't see that.

      (legal question)

      DC, being "not a state"...does the mayor have standing to call in the national guard?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Thinking?

        I don't think most of them were thinking at all...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • George KG George K

          @loki said in What the hell were they thinking?:

          Bowser asking for no national guard

          Really? I didn't see that.

          (legal question)

          DC, being "not a state"...does the mayor have standing to call in the national guard?

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          @george-k said in What the hell were they thinking?:

          DC, being "not a state"...does the mayor have standing to call in the national guard?

          No, Sec Def does.

          Please love yourself.

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            Here's an excerpt from the US Attorney for DC's presser yesterday:

            So again, I just want to clarify that the initial charges were filing, some of these misdemeanors, these are only the beginning, this is not the end. So what are we looking at downstream here? So in terms of what we’re looking at is the initial charges’ everyone’s familiar with. The zip tie guy, the Munchels and the [inaudible 00:11:21] that were arrested on the house floor with zip ties, rifling through the house floor. People are familiar with online, they see the Barnett’s and Johnson’s, who were literally rifling through Pelosi’s office and stealing items, stealing materials, mail, and sometimes even personal momentos. So those are the cases, the public’s familiar with. They’re familiar with those cases because of social media, but what the public isn’t familiar with is that the FBI working with the U.S. attorney’s offices across the country and the crux of those being in DC, we’re looking at significant felony cases tied to sedition and conspiracy. Just yesterday, our office organized a strike force of very senior national security prosecutors and public corruption prosecutors, their only marching orders from me are to build, seditious and conspiracy charges related to the most heinous acts that occurred in the Capitol. These are significant charges that have felonies with prison terms of up to 20 years.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • George KG George K

              @loki said in What the hell were they thinking?:

              Bowser asking for no national guard

              Really? I didn't see that.

              (legal question)

              DC, being "not a state"...does the mayor have standing to call in the national guard?

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              @george-k said in What the hell were they thinking?:

              @loki said in What the hell were they thinking?:

              Bowser asking for no national guard

              Really? I didn't see that.

              (legal question)

              DC, being "not a state"...does the mayor have standing to call in the national guard?

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Thinking?

                I don't think most of them were thinking at all...

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                @jolly said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                Thinking?

                I don't think most of them were thinking at all...

                Yup. There’s no possible positive endgame.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  @jolly said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                  Thinking?

                  I don't think most of them were thinking at all...

                  Yup. There’s no possible positive endgame.

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                  @mik said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                  @jolly said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                  Thinking?

                  I don't think most of them were thinking at all...

                  Yup. There’s no possible positive endgame.

                  I agree, but that's just the idiots on social. Let's see what the investigation comes out with.

                  Please love yourself.

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                    #17

                    The President is literally pumping you up.

                    It's the most powerful man in the world.

                    You're all feeling the weight of the moment.

                    He's telling you to go save the Republic.

                    The details will work themselves out.

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                    • MikM Mik

                      @jolly said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                      Thinking?

                      I don't think most of them were thinking at all...

                      Yup. There’s no possible positive endgame.

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                      @mik said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                      @jolly said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                      Thinking?

                      I don't think most of them were thinking at all...

                      Yup. There’s no possible positive endgame.

                      YEs, mobs do weird things. A friend of a friend of a friend, etc. knows the CEO from Chicago who got fired. He said that he is a normal guy. Level head, never extreme, etc Was complete shocked when he found out the guy was there.

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                      • X xenon

                        The President is literally pumping you up.

                        It's the most powerful man in the world.

                        You're all feeling the weight of the moment.

                        He's telling you to go save the Republic.

                        The details will work themselves out.

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                        @xenon said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                        The President is literally pumping you up.

                        It's the most powerful man in the world.

                        You're all feeling the weight of the moment.

                        He's telling you to go save the Republic.

                        The details will work themselves out.

                        Except he actually said “Peacefully and Patriotically make your voice be heard”. This doesn’t even come close to passing the Brandenburg test.

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @xenon said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                          The President is literally pumping you up.

                          It's the most powerful man in the world.

                          You're all feeling the weight of the moment.

                          He's telling you to go save the Republic.

                          The details will work themselves out.

                          Except he actually said “Peacefully and Patriotically make your voice be heard”. This doesn’t even come close to passing the Brandenburg test.

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                          @lufins-dad said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                          @xenon said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                          The President is literally pumping you up.

                          It's the most powerful man in the world.

                          You're all feeling the weight of the moment.

                          He's telling you to go save the Republic.

                          The details will work themselves out.

                          Except he actually said “Peacefully and Patriotically make your voice be heard”. This doesn’t even come close to passing the Brandenburg test.

                          Ok, so what’s your best take of what the people invading the Capitol were thinking?

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                            @lufins-dad said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                            @xenon said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                            The President is literally pumping you up.

                            It's the most powerful man in the world.

                            You're all feeling the weight of the moment.

                            He's telling you to go save the Republic.

                            The details will work themselves out.

                            Except he actually said “Peacefully and Patriotically make your voice be heard”. This doesn’t even come close to passing the Brandenburg test.

                            Ok, so what’s your best take of what the people invading the Capitol were thinking?

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                            @xenon said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                            @lufins-dad said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                            @xenon said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                            The President is literally pumping you up.

                            It's the most powerful man in the world.

                            You're all feeling the weight of the moment.

                            He's telling you to go save the Republic.

                            The details will work themselves out.

                            Except he actually said “Peacefully and Patriotically make your voice be heard”. This doesn’t even come close to passing the Brandenburg test.

                            Ok, so what’s your best take of what the people invading the Capitol were thinking?

                            They might have been thinking their dog was telling them to kill the stripper. It doesn’t make the dog responsible.

                            The Brad

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                              @xenon said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                              @lufins-dad said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                              @xenon said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                              The President is literally pumping you up.

                              It's the most powerful man in the world.

                              You're all feeling the weight of the moment.

                              He's telling you to go save the Republic.

                              The details will work themselves out.

                              Except he actually said “Peacefully and Patriotically make your voice be heard”. This doesn’t even come close to passing the Brandenburg test.

                              Ok, so what’s your best take of what the people invading the Capitol were thinking?

                              They might have been thinking their dog was telling them to kill the stripper. It doesn’t make the dog responsible.

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                              @lufins-dad said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                              @xenon said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                              @lufins-dad said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                              @xenon said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                              The President is literally pumping you up.

                              It's the most powerful man in the world.

                              You're all feeling the weight of the moment.

                              He's telling you to go save the Republic.

                              The details will work themselves out.

                              Except he actually said “Peacefully and Patriotically make your voice be heard”. This doesn’t even come close to passing the Brandenburg test.

                              Ok, so what’s your best take of what the people invading the Capitol were thinking?

                              They might have been thinking their dog was telling them to kill the stripper. It doesn’t make the dog responsible.

                              That wasn’t the question in the thread.

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                @xenon said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                                @lufins-dad said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                                @xenon said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                                The President is literally pumping you up.

                                It's the most powerful man in the world.

                                You're all feeling the weight of the moment.

                                He's telling you to go save the Republic.

                                The details will work themselves out.

                                Except he actually said “Peacefully and Patriotically make your voice be heard”. This doesn’t even come close to passing the Brandenburg test.

                                Ok, so what’s your best take of what the people invading the Capitol were thinking?

                                They might have been thinking their dog was telling them to kill the stripper. It doesn’t make the dog responsible.

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                                @lufins-dad

                                Why do you take the rally on the 6th as your t=0?

                                Why were they even there? How many of these clowns knew what the significance of Jan 6th was before November? Or even before Trump promoted it?
                                Why did 10s of millions absorb the stolen election memetic complex?
                                Why did the movement get so much oxygen in right wing media?
                                Why did Wood and Powell get so much attention?
                                How many 10s of millions of people did he promote Flynn’s tweets to?

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                • X xenon

                                  @lufins-dad said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                                  @xenon said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                                  @lufins-dad said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                                  @xenon said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                                  The President is literally pumping you up.

                                  It's the most powerful man in the world.

                                  You're all feeling the weight of the moment.

                                  He's telling you to go save the Republic.

                                  The details will work themselves out.

                                  Except he actually said “Peacefully and Patriotically make your voice be heard”. This doesn’t even come close to passing the Brandenburg test.

                                  Ok, so what’s your best take of what the people invading the Capitol were thinking?

                                  They might have been thinking their dog was telling them to kill the stripper. It doesn’t make the dog responsible.

                                  That wasn’t the question in the thread.

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                                  @xenon so what you’re saying is that the asshats weren’t actually listening to what he was saying. I agree with that.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    @lufins-dad

                                    Why do you take the rally on the 6th as your t=0?

                                    Why were they even there? How many of these clowns knew what the significance of Jan 6th was before November? Or even before Trump promoted it?
                                    Why did 10s of millions absorb the stolen election memetic complex?
                                    Why did the movement get so much oxygen in right wing media?
                                    Why did Wood and Powell get so much attention?
                                    How many 10s of millions of people did he promote Flynn’s tweets to?

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                                    @jon-nyc said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                                    @lufins-dad

                                    Why do you take the rally on the 6th as your t=0?

                                    Why were they even there?

                                    A lot of it had to do with the irrational hatred against Trump and his supporters. It is convenient to now place all blame on election fraud claims.

                                    None of us expect those who participated in the irrational hatred to own any of its effects. So please don't worry. It won't land.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      @lufins-dad

                                      Why do you take the rally on the 6th as your t=0?

                                      Why were they even there? How many of these clowns knew what the significance of Jan 6th was before November? Or even before Trump promoted it?
                                      Why did 10s of millions absorb the stolen election memetic complex?
                                      Why did the movement get so much oxygen in right wing media?
                                      Why did Wood and Powell get so much attention?
                                      How many 10s of millions of people did he promote Flynn’s tweets to?

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                                      @jon-nyc said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                                      @lufins-dad

                                      Why do you take the rally on the 6th as your t=0?

                                      Why were they even there? How many of these clowns knew what the significance of Jan 6th was before November? Or even before Trump promoted it?
                                      Why did 10s of millions absorb the stolen election memetic complex?
                                      Why did the movement get so much oxygen in right wing media?
                                      Why did Wood and Powell get so much attention?
                                      How many 10s of millions of people did he promote Flynn’s tweets to?

                                      Does any of that stand up to Brandenburg? That’s a decision for the courts. Not you, not me, and sure as hell not Nancy Pelosi. So let’s put it to them.

                                      The Brad

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                                        @jon-nyc said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                                        @lufins-dad

                                        Why do you take the rally on the 6th as your t=0?

                                        Why were they even there?

                                        A lot of it had to do with the irrational hatred against Trump and his supporters. It is convenient to now place all blame on election fraud claims.

                                        None of us expect those who participated in the irrational hatred to own any of its effects. So please don't worry. It won't land.

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                                        @horace said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                                        @jon-nyc said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                                        @lufins-dad

                                        Why do you take the rally on the 6th as your t=0?

                                        Why were they even there?

                                        A lot of it had to do with the irrational hatred against Trump and his supporters. It is convenient to now place all blame on election fraud claims.

                                        None of us expect those who participated in the irrational hatred to own any of its effects. So please don't worry. It won't land.

                                        Ah yes - the historic injustices against these people caused them to lash out.

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                                          @horace said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                                          @jon-nyc said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                                          @lufins-dad

                                          Why do you take the rally on the 6th as your t=0?

                                          Why were they even there?

                                          A lot of it had to do with the irrational hatred against Trump and his supporters. It is convenient to now place all blame on election fraud claims.

                                          None of us expect those who participated in the irrational hatred to own any of its effects. So please don't worry. It won't land.

                                          Ah yes - the historic injustices against these people caused them to lash out.

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                                          @xenon said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                                          @horace said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                                          @jon-nyc said in What the hell were they thinking?:

                                          @lufins-dad

                                          Why do you take the rally on the 6th as your t=0?

                                          Why were they even there?

                                          A lot of it had to do with the irrational hatred against Trump and his supporters. It is convenient to now place all blame on election fraud claims.

                                          None of us expect those who participated in the irrational hatred to own any of its effects. So please don't worry. It won't land.

                                          Ah yes - the historic injustices against these people caused them to lash out.

                                          Not very historic. And I call them doofuses or pick your pejorative. Those who even demonstrated much less invaded.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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