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  • CopperC Offline
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    Copper
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    #28

    Elijah "Pumpsie" Green was the first black player on the Boston Red Sox, the last Major League Baseball team to integrate.

    I remember Pumpsie Green as a second baseman, I was 5 years-old. I don't remember anything about him and integration.

    Bill Russell played for the Celtics 56-69, He won 11 NBA championships (really 11), 8 of them in a row. He always talked about Boston being racist. It probably was, but at that time he would have heard the talk anywhere.

    The school bussing in the 70's insured Boston's reputation.

    Bussing was bad for everyone, it still is. I had a front row seat for it. It was just plain stupid.

    Is Boston racist? Maybe, but it isn't just white/black, it's different. The Irish are very aware that they are Irish, that is also true for Italians, Germans, Jewish, Brahmin, Limey or whatever. The city was always run by democrats who didn't used to be far left. But now they have become woke.

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      Elijah "Pumpsie" Green was the first black player on the Boston Red Sox, the last Major League Baseball team to integrate.

      I remember Pumpsie Green as a second baseman, I was 5 years-old. I don't remember anything about him and integration.

      Bill Russell played for the Celtics 56-69, He won 11 NBA championships (really 11), 8 of them in a row. He always talked about Boston being racist. It probably was, but at that time he would have heard the talk anywhere.

      The school bussing in the 70's insured Boston's reputation.

      Bussing was bad for everyone, it still is. I had a front row seat for it. It was just plain stupid.

      Is Boston racist? Maybe, but it isn't just white/black, it's different. The Irish are very aware that they are Irish, that is also true for Italians, Germans, Jewish, Brahmin, Limey or whatever. The city was always run by democrats who didn't used to be far left. But now they have become woke.

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      jon-nyc
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      #29

      @copper said in NYC dumps Trump:

      I had a front row seat for it. It was just plain stupid.

      We’re you one of the kids bussed to a school far away?

      You were warned.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        @copper said in NYC dumps Trump:

        I had a front row seat for it. It was just plain stupid.

        We’re you one of the kids bussed to a school far away?

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        #30

        @jon-nyc said in NYC dumps Trump:

        @copper said in NYC dumps Trump:

        I had a front row seat for it. It was just plain stupid.

        We’re you one of the kids bussed to a school far away?

        No, my father was a high school headmaster in Boston. He was making Walter Cronkite appearances at the time to discuss the bussing.

        He sent his kids to private schools, of course. They were cheap back then. I think $100 covered 6 of us in the same grammar school. We had nuns who worked for food and shelter.

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          #31

          Interesting.

          Even today the parochial schools are a lot cheaper than similar private schools.

          You were warned.

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            #32

            Would bussing work today with the wokes? Feels like a true test.

            Peer quality is strongly linked to outcomes. You take poor disadvantaged kids and start sending them to areas with high property values (and high property values because of schools), let's see how people react?

            I for one unabashedly traded less house for better school district. I'm sure many others have as well.

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              My answer: I think it would work with the almost-religious true wokes. But the "go along to get along" folks probably won't have it.

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              • CopperC Offline
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                #34

                When bussing started I was in high school. Tuition at that school now is $22K per year. I'm not sure what we paid, it couldn't have been more than 2 or 3 hundred.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Sorry. Future presidents need to know that can’t just go down the path of launching assaults on democracy if they lose. Figurative and literal.

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                  @jon-nyc said in NYC dumps Trump:

                  Sorry. Future presidents need to know that can’t just go down the path of launching assaults on democracy if they lose. Figurative and literal.

                  Future Presidents should be treated just like any other American, with all the rights and privileges we enjoy.

                  If you don't like that, China is a large communist country that might suit your idea of law and government better.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    Looks like lying Don finally cried wolf one time too many...found his limit and is now paying dearly, everywhere. Good.

                    ————-

                    NYC Severing All City Contracts With Trump Organization

                    The city had contracts with the Trump Organization to manage four different locations, worth about $17 million a year

                    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nyc-severing-all-city-contracts-with-trump-organization/2828906/

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                    #36

                    @89th said in NYC dumps Trump:

                    Looks like lying Don finally cried wolf one time too many...found his limit and is now paying dearly, everywhere. Good.

                    ————-

                    NYC Severing All City Contracts With Trump Organization

                    The city had contracts with the Trump Organization to manage four different locations, worth about $17 million a year

                    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nyc-severing-all-city-contracts-with-trump-organization/2828906/

                    On another note let’s see the new prices for the new contracts when theses expire.

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                      George K
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                      #37

                      Some talking head said that the contract between the Trump organization and NYC specifies that the contract can be terminated for "criminal behavior."

                      AFAICT, President Trump was impeached, but not convicted. Also, I admit I might be wrong, "criminal behavior" is decided in the courts, not Congress.

                      That sound you hear is the sound of Trump organization lawyers salivating.

                      ETA: NYC's announcement occurred before the impeachment. Good luck and [@Jolly] enjoy [/@jolly].

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        Some talking head said that the contract between the Trump organization and NYC specifies that the contract can be terminated for "criminal behavior."

                        AFAICT, President Trump was impeached, but not convicted. Also, I admit I might be wrong, "criminal behavior" is decided in the courts, not Congress.

                        That sound you hear is the sound of Trump organization lawyers salivating.

                        ETA: NYC's announcement occurred before the impeachment. Good luck and [@Jolly] enjoy [/@jolly].

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                        @george-k said in NYC dumps Trump:

                        That sound you hear is the sound of Trump organization lawyers salivating.

                        For his sake, I hope he doesn't use Lin Wood and Sidney Powell, who in recent weeks haven't salivated so much as drool.

                        I was only joking

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                          Read today that 3 of the 4 contracts are expiring in April anyway.

                          You were warned.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            Read today that 3 of the 4 contracts are expiring in April anyway.

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                            @jon-nyc said in NYC dumps Trump:

                            Read today that 3 of the 4 contracts are expiring in April anyway.

                            So...grandstanding, eh?

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K

                              @jon-nyc said in NYC dumps Trump:

                              Read today that 3 of the 4 contracts are expiring in April anyway.

                              So...grandstanding, eh?

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                              @george-k said in NYC dumps Trump:

                              @jon-nyc said in NYC dumps Trump:

                              Read today that 3 of the 4 contracts are expiring in April anyway.

                              So...grandstanding, eh?

                              At an insanely stupid cost. The damages they can claim are significant.

                              The Brad

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                @george-k said in NYC dumps Trump:

                                @jon-nyc said in NYC dumps Trump:

                                Read today that 3 of the 4 contracts are expiring in April anyway.

                                So...grandstanding, eh?

                                At an insanely stupid cost. The damages they can claim are significant.

                                George KG Offline
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                                @lufins-dad said in NYC dumps Trump:

                                The damages they can claim are significant.

                                Beyond loss of revenue, what else? Damage to (cough) reputation?

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  @george-k said in NYC dumps Trump:

                                  @jon-nyc said in NYC dumps Trump:

                                  Read today that 3 of the 4 contracts are expiring in April anyway.

                                  So...grandstanding, eh?

                                  At an insanely stupid cost. The damages they can claim are significant.

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  George K
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                                  @lufins-dad said in NYC dumps Trump:

                                  At an insanely stupid cost.

                                  Just read that the Trump organization's contracts with NYC are in excess of $40MM.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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