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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    How many of them assaulted a federal building containing the Vice President, Speaker of the House, and every member of both houses of Congress? How many federal officers did they beat to death? How much government property did they steal or destroy?

    I find the whattaboutism even weaker than usual.

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    Horace
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    @jon-nyc said in ICYMI two years ago - Charges against rioters...er, protestors dropped:

    How many of them assaulted a federal building containing the Vice President, Speaker of the House, and every member of both houses of Congress? How many federal officers did they beat to death? How much government property did they steal or destroy?

    I find the whattaboutism even weaker than usual.

    Well yes but you would. Even you must look back over your life and find the lust for winning, right?

    Education is extremely important.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      How many of them assaulted a federal building containing the Vice President, Speaker of the House, and every member of both houses of Congress? How many federal officers did they beat to death? How much government property did they steal or destroy?

      I find the whattaboutism even weaker than usual.

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      @jon-nyc said in ICYMI two years ago - Charges against rioters...er, protestors dropped:

      How many of them assaulted a federal building containing the Vice President, Speaker of the House, and every member of both houses of Congress? How many federal officers did they beat to death? How much government property did they steal or destroy?

      I find the whattaboutism even weaker than usual.

      I'm sorry. I forgot that some animals are more equal than others.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        #5

        I kind of agree with @jon-nyc on this.

        Yes, some crimes are more equal than others.

        For example, I think that any killing of a police officer in many states is eligible for the death penalty. But the same crime if it happened to an ordinary citizen would not be.

        So, a assault on the US capital where the #2 and #3 people in the US were at does seems a bit more serious than breaking the window of the local 7-11 store.

        It may not seem fair, but that is the reality of the situation.

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        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

          I kind of agree with @jon-nyc on this.

          Yes, some crimes are more equal than others.

          For example, I think that any killing of a police officer in many states is eligible for the death penalty. But the same crime if it happened to an ordinary citizen would not be.

          So, a assault on the US capital where the #2 and #3 people in the US were at does seems a bit more serious than breaking the window of the local 7-11 store.

          It may not seem fair, but that is the reality of the situation.

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          @taiwan_girl said in ICYMI two years ago - Charges against rioters...er, protestors dropped:

          I kind of agree with @jon-nyc on this.

          Yes this is not the first time @jon-nyc has relied on the women for his identity.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            I kind of agree with @jon-nyc on this.

            Yes, some crimes are more equal than others.

            For example, I think that any killing of a police officer in many states is eligible for the death penalty. But the same crime if it happened to an ordinary citizen would not be.

            So, a assault on the US capital where the #2 and #3 people in the US were at does seems a bit more serious than breaking the window of the local 7-11 store.

            It may not seem fair, but that is the reality of the situation.

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            Horace
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            #7

            @taiwan_girl said in ICYMI two years ago - Charges against rioters...er, protestors dropped:

            I kind of agree with @jon-nyc on this.

            Yes, some crimes are more equal than others.

            For example, I think that any killing of a police officer in many states is eligible for the death penalty. But the same crime if it happened to an ordinary citizen would not be.

            So, a assault on the US capital where the #2 and #3 people in the US were at does seems a bit more serious than breaking the window of the local 7-11 store.

            It may not seem fair, but that is the reality of the situation.

            By the way, it's police officers you're supposed to be caring about. Not the POTUS or lessers in the chain of command

            Education is extremely important.

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              I kind of agree with @jon-nyc on this.

              Yes, some crimes are more equal than others.

              For example, I think that any killing of a police officer in many states is eligible for the death penalty. But the same crime if it happened to an ordinary citizen would not be.

              So, a assault on the US capital where the #2 and #3 people in the US were at does seems a bit more serious than breaking the window of the local 7-11 store.

              It may not seem fair, but that is the reality of the situation.

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              @taiwan_girl said in ICYMI two years ago - Charges against rioters...er, protestors dropped:

              For example, I think that any killing of a police officer in many states is eligible for the death penalty. But the same crime if it happened to an ordinary citizen would not be.

              With the democrats in charge we won't have to worry about police.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                @taiwan_girl said in ICYMI two years ago - Charges against rioters...er, protestors dropped:

                I kind of agree with @jon-nyc on this.

                Yes, some crimes are more equal than others.

                For example, I think that any killing of a police officer in many states is eligible for the death penalty. But the same crime if it happened to an ordinary citizen would not be.

                So, a assault on the US capital where the #2 and #3 people in the US were at does seems a bit more serious than breaking the window of the local 7-11 store.

                It may not seem fair, but that is the reality of the situation.

                By the way, it's police officers you're supposed to be caring about. Not the POTUS or lessers in the chain of command

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                @horace said in ICYMI two years ago - Charges against rioters...er, protestors dropped:

                @taiwan_girl said in ICYMI two years ago - Charges against rioters...er, protestors dropped:

                I kind of agree with @jon-nyc on this.

                Yes, some crimes are more equal than others.

                For example, I think that any killing of a police officer in many states is eligible for the death penalty. But the same crime if it happened to an ordinary citizen would not be.

                So, a assault on the US capital where the #2 and #3 people in the US were at does seems a bit more serious than breaking the window of the local 7-11 store.

                It may not seem fair, but that is the reality of the situation.

                By the way, it's police officers you're supposed to be caring about. Not the POTUS or lessers in the chain of command

                If that were the case, remind me again how many cops have been hurt in Antifa and BLM riots the last few years?

                That's ok, I'll remind you...This list was from last June...

                Albany, N.Y.: Officer sent to the hospital after protester throws a brick at him

                Atlanta: Officer Maximilian Brewer underwent surgery after a protester hit him with an ATV

                Brockton, Mass.: One state trooper and a few local Brockton police officers suffered minor injuries

                Buffalo, N.Y.: Two police officers are hit by a vehicle and one other has his leg broken and pelvis shattered after protesters run him over

                Champaign, Ill: Several police officers suffered minor injuries after allegedly being assaulted

                Cincinnati, Ohio: Officer narrowly escaped death after a bullet struck his ballistic helmet

                Columbia, S.C.: 15 law enforcement personnel injured during a Saturday riot

                Chicago: 132 Chicago Police Department officers injured in violent riots in the city

                Davenport, Iowa: A plainclothes police officer injured after an individual opened fire on his vehicle

                Denver: Three city police officers sent to the hospital after a hit-and-run that also injured a bystander

                Harrisburg, Penn.: Two police officers sent to the hospital during a violent protest on Saturday

                Las Vegas: One cop put on life support after he was shot in the head during a violent protest on Monday; 12 additional officers injured during Friday’s rioting

                Los Angeles: 27 LAPD officers injured during weekend rioting

                Lynchburg, Va.: Several officers were shot at during protests but were not injured

                Minnesota: Police officers shot at during a protest, and a precinct in the city was set on fire by protesters

                Maryland: Protesters injured four county police officers and damaged several police cruisers

                New York City: Dozens of NYPD officers injured during weekend rioting with one video showing an officer being struck by a car in a hit-and-run.

                Over 350 NYPD officers injured in two weeks of protests. Injuries include being hit by vehicles, head injuries from bricks and fire extinguishers as well as other serious wounds.

                Oak Lawn, Il.: Three officers injured during Monday’s protests

                Oakland, Calif.: FBI officer Dave Patrick Underwood was shot and killed while providing security for a courthouse, and another officer was injured in the shooting

                Oakdale, Calif: Two officers suffered injuries after a clash broke out at a protest.

                Philadelphia: City police reported several assaults on officers and multiple police cars set on fire

                Pittsburgh, Penn.: Nine police officers hurt and sent to the hospital in clashes with protesters

                Providence, R.I: 9 officers injured after protesters threw bricks at them as violent protests erupted in the city

                Richmond, Va.: Two officers hurt during a protest after being hit with a baseball bat and a beer bottle

                Rhode Island: Nine officers injured amongst rioting

                Sacramento, Calif.: Seven police officers received minor injuries at the hands of violent protesters

                Salt Lake City, Utah: 21 police officers required medical care after being injured by protesters, with one reporting that he was hit on the head with a baseball bat

                San Antonio: Three officers were injured after being hit by bricks and bottles

                San Jose, Calif.: Several officers sustained injuries during a May 29 protest and one was sent to the hospital

                Santa Ana, Calif.: Two officers had to be taken to the hospital after being hit in the head by projectiles thrown at them by protesters

                Springfield, Mo: Springfield Police Department officer Mark Priebe was hospitalized in the ICU with a spinal cord injury after being rammed by an SUV. Priebe has to undergo surgery and will likely never be able to walk again.

                St. Louis, Mo.: 77-year-old David Dorn, a retired police officer, was shot dead by looters. His death was broadcast live on Facebook. Four other police officers were also shot in downtown St. Louis by violent protesters

                Washington, D.C.: 11 Washington police officers injured during Sunday’s protests. One officer required surgery after being hit by a brick in the leg. Over 50 members of the Secret Service were also hurt during clashes, some sustaining injuries from Molotov cocktails

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  What’s interesting and a little sad about this thread is that, at its core, whattaboutism is a wagon-circling maneuver.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    Also look at the thread about the Magats crushing that officer.

                    Who expressed disgust, anger, or sadness?

                    Who went straight to whattaboutism?

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      The entire idea of English Common Law is whataboutism.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        The entire idea of English Common Law is whataboutism.

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                        jon-nyc
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                        #13

                        Nope. Custom and whattaboutism are totally orthogonal.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Nope. Custom and whattaboutism are totally orthogonal.

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                          @jon-nyc said in ICYMI two years ago - Charges against rioters...er, protestors dropped:

                          Nope. Custom and whattaboutism are totally orthogonal.

                          Whataboitism is just what we all see the world. Please feel free to engage me on that point.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            And just to be clear, and for the record, jon shed zero crocodile tears about the police killed in the Floyd riots.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              That’s true, but then I’ve never shed crocodile tears about any death outside my immediate family.

                              Surely you must know that the tu quoque charge is going to fall flat on me. I was critical of the Floyd riots and at least as critical of the ‘racist cops’ narrative behind them as anyone here.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                That’s true, but then I’ve never shed crocodile tears about any death outside my immediate family.

                                Surely you must know that the tu quoque charge is going to fall flat on me. I was critical of the Floyd riots and at least as critical of the ‘racist cops’ narrative behind them as anyone here.

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                                @jon-nyc said in ICYMI two years ago - Charges against rioters...er, protestors dropped:

                                That’s true, but then I’ve never shed crocodile tears about any death outside my immediate family.

                                Surely you must know that the tu quoque charge is going to fall flat on me. I was critical of the Floyd riots and at least as critical of the ‘racist cops’ narrative behind them as anyone here.

                                Lots of narratives are falling flat these days. Must be the power of the internet.

                                Education is extremely important.

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