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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    A number of the riots earlier in the year were clearly worse in their violence and horror than this week's outrage.

    The difference is that the protests in Washington were a deliberate attack on the US government, and also occurred at least partially at the bidding of the President of the United States.

    There is a difference. You can play Whataboutism all day long, and find odious things that Democrats have done, but it doesn't take away from this basic truth.

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    Horace
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    #25

    @doctor-phibes said in Officer Down:

    A number of the riots earlier in the year were clearly worse in their violence and horror than this week's outrage.

    The difference is that the protests in Washington were a deliberate attack on the US government, and also occurred at least partially at the bidding of the President of the United States.

    There is a difference. You can play Whataboutism all day long, and find odious things that Democrats have done, but it doesn't take away from this basic truth.

    It is far from obvious to me a completely hopeless attack on the capitol by a group of hopeless Trump supporters is of more gravity than a neighborhood in Seattle being taken over, or the long-term Portland riots, stemming from leftward cultural indoctrination. So I'll play some whataboutism. Obviously, the people who tried to attack the capitol are batshit, and were enabled by Trump's election fraud claims.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • HoraceH Horace

      @doctor-phibes said in Officer Down:

      A number of the riots earlier in the year were clearly worse in their violence and horror than this week's outrage.

      The difference is that the protests in Washington were a deliberate attack on the US government, and also occurred at least partially at the bidding of the President of the United States.

      There is a difference. You can play Whataboutism all day long, and find odious things that Democrats have done, but it doesn't take away from this basic truth.

      It is far from obvious to me a completely hopeless attack on the capitol by a group of hopeless Trump supporters is of more gravity than a neighborhood in Seattle being taken over, or the long-term Portland riots, stemming from leftward cultural indoctrination. So I'll play some whataboutism. Obviously, the people who tried to attack the capitol are batshit, and were enabled by Trump's election fraud claims.

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      Doctor Phibes
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      #26

      @horace said in Officer Down:

      @doctor-phibes said in Officer Down:

      A number of the riots earlier in the year were clearly worse in their violence and horror than this week's outrage.

      The difference is that the protests in Washington were a deliberate attack on the US government, and also occurred at least partially at the bidding of the President of the United States.

      There is a difference. You can play Whataboutism all day long, and find odious things that Democrats have done, but it doesn't take away from this basic truth.

      It is far from obvious to me a completely hopeless attack on the capitol by a group of hopeless Trump supporters is of more gravity than a neighborhood in Seattle being taken over, or the long-term Portland riots, stemming from leftward cultural indoctrination. So I'll play some whataboutism. Obviously, the people who tried to attack the capitol are batshit, and were enabled by Trump's election fraud claims.

      The seriousness comes from the fact that the President of the United States incited a riot. Now, you can accuse me of TDS, and being a hater, and whatever else springs to mind, but this doesn't seem like an unreasonable claim. A number of Republicans have made it, too.

      The fact that it was by a bunch of hopeless Trump supporters is obvious. Who else is he going to incite?

      I was only joking

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        Horace
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        #27

        He made some election fraud claims without evidence and a handful of supporters took them at face value and did what they thought was right, but which was actually batshit. Sure, you can reasonably accuse him of starting a riot. Just like the left leaning racism narrative and the millions who propagate it can be reasonably accused of inciting the 2020 Floyd riots.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • HoraceH Horace

          @aqua-letifer said in Officer Down:

          @kluurs said in Officer Down:

          I hope the "patriot" who did this is found and dealt with appropriately.

          Shouldn't we arrest the liberals instead, whose antagonisms have brought us to this?

          Not Trump and his "show strength" rhetoric of course. Trump's gotta Trump after all!

          I mean the liberals. From the past. Who are apparently responsible.

          I suspect you will find nobody on this forum who wouldn't like to see the murderer prosecuted to the fullest extent.

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          #28

          @horace said in Officer Down:

          I suspect you will find nobody on this forum who wouldn't like to see the murderer prosecuted to the fullest extent.

          So are you saying that it was a murderer who downed this woman rather than a law enforcement officer doing his duty and responding to a threat? If so then show us what makes him a murderer.

          Elbows up!

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          • RenaudaR Renauda

            @horace said in Officer Down:

            I suspect you will find nobody on this forum who wouldn't like to see the murderer prosecuted to the fullest extent.

            So are you saying that it was a murderer who downed this woman rather than a law enforcement officer doing his duty and responding to a threat? If so then show us what makes him a murderer.

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            @renauda said in Officer Down:

            @horace said in Officer Down:

            I suspect you will find nobody on this forum who wouldn't like to see the murderer prosecuted to the fullest extent.

            So are you saying that it was a murderer who downed this woman rather than a law enforcement officer doing his duty and responding to a threat? If so then show us what makes him a murderer.

            I thought we were talking about a police officer beaten to death by a rioter, with a fire extinguisher.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • Doctor PhibesD Online
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              Doctor Phibes
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              #30

              I think Horace was talking about the police officer who was killed

              Edit - never mind, H answered

              I was only joking

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              • HoraceH Horace

                @renauda said in Officer Down:

                @horace said in Officer Down:

                I suspect you will find nobody on this forum who wouldn't like to see the murderer prosecuted to the fullest extent.

                So are you saying that it was a murderer who downed this woman rather than a law enforcement officer doing his duty and responding to a threat? If so then show us what makes him a murderer.

                I thought we were talking about a police officer beaten to death by a rioter, with a fire extinguisher.

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                @horace said in Officer Down:

                @renauda said in Officer Down:

                @horace said in Officer Down:

                I suspect you will find nobody on this forum who wouldn't like to see the murderer prosecuted to the fullest extent.

                So are you saying that it was a murderer who downed this woman rather than a law enforcement officer doing his duty and responding to a threat? If so then show us what makes him a murderer.

                I thought we were talking about a police officer beaten to death by a rioter, with a fire extinguisher.

                Yes you are correct. I got the threads confused. My fault, I was not paying attention. Sorry

                Elbows up!

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                  Horace
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                  That's ok.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    89th
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                    The officer's house. Didn't live too far away from me. Just makes it real(er). (I also have a buddy who's an officer at SCOTUS, so this made me think of him, too)

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      Never mind.

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                      #34

                      @doctor-phibes said in Officer Down:

                      Never mind.

                      +1.

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                      • MikM Mik

                        There were several officers murdered, deliberately and with malice aforethought, during that time. Yet the protestors were deemed mostly peaceful.

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                        Aqua Letifer
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                        #35

                        @mik said in Officer Down:

                        There were several officers murdered, deliberately and with malice aforethought, during that time. Yet the protestors were deemed mostly peaceful.

                        So looking at the full scope of the situation only applies when Trumpers are involved?

                        They were mostly peaceful. Rant and rave about it all you want but it's a fact. The problem is that the fringe left believes that absolves any responsibility and the destruction of businesses is no big deal, and the right wants to condemn everyone involved, even those who tried to police their own by trying to prevent property damage. That's a hell of lot more truthful than "it was mostly peaceful so what's the big deal" or "everyone involved in the 2020 protests are criminals."

                        By the way, the rhetoric the left used to absolve responsibility is very similar to the story I keep hearing here about Wednesday's invasion. We tag the left and its antagonisms as an influence for what happened this week but, swear up and down the actions of the left happened in a vaccum, because all of their complaints are unjustified.

                        Please love yourself.

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                          Pence called his family.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            Pence called his family.

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            @jon-nyc said in Officer Down:

                            Pence called his family

                            The ability to delegate is very important when you're a total cunt.

                            I was only joking

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              @jon-nyc said in Officer Down:

                              Pence called his family

                              The ability to delegate is very important when you're a total cunt.

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                              89th
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                              @doctor-phibes lol

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