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Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #219

    https://tulsaworld.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/inhofe-ive-never-seen-mike-pence-as-angry-as-he-was-today/article_439af4ae-5082-11eb-96b1-53cf9e218598.html

    Inhofe hedged on who he thought might be to blame for what happened, but he allowed that Trump did not do enough to stop it.

    “He’s only put out one statement that I’m aware of,” Inhofe said. “This was really a riot. He should have shown more disdain for the rioters. I don’t want to say he should have apologized — that’s not exactly accurate — but he should have expressed more disdain.”

    Instead, Trump directed his disdain toward Vice President Mike Pence, who refused to do what Trump wanted him to do — illegally refuse to accept the final election results in his role as Senate president.

    By doing so, he may have alienated one of his most steadfast allies.

    “I’ve known Mike Pence forever,” Inhofe said Tuesday night. “I’ve never seen Pence as angry as he was today.

    “I had a long conversation with him,” said Inhofe. “He said, ‘After all the things I’ve done for (Trump).’”

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • LarryL Larry

      @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

      @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

      @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

      @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

      the side who believes this election was stolen feels

      Too much "believes" and "feels" - we have laws for a reason.

      Once feels > laws - then, I agree, we have a whole whack of new problems.

      For longer than you've been alive your side has based it's entire worldview on "believing" and "feeling". You just jumped the shark.

      Who are you talking to? You quoted my post.

      It should be obvious that I'm talking to you.

      KlausK Offline
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      Klaus
      wrote on last edited by Klaus
      #220

      @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

      @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

      @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

      @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

      @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

      the side who believes this election was stolen feels

      Too much "believes" and "feels" - we have laws for a reason.

      Once feels > laws - then, I agree, we have a whole whack of new problems.

      For longer than you've been alive your side has based it's entire worldview on "believing" and "feeling". You just jumped the shark.

      Who are you talking to? You quoted my post.

      It should be obvious that I'm talking to you.

      The problem is that you seem to be unable to distinguish "individual who disagrees with me on point X" from "the other tribe, which I hate". You do this every day on this forum. There is no uniform "other tribe". If you want to have a productive conversation with people, you need to address them as individuals, not as members of a tribe. You always seem to need a box with a label in which you can put people and treat them all the same.

      jon-nycJ 1 Reply Last reply
      • 89th8 89th

        @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

        You think he "lost". Me and half of this country thinks he won, but the election was stolen. Our opinion is just as valid as yours

        Half the country doesn’t think Trump won...that right there is a perfect example of why facts matter and it’s not about opinions.

        The opinion that the election was stolen is not as valid as the opinion that Biden won. All facts and evidence support a Biden win and a fair election. Court after court has found this based on the lack of evidence. Opinions and feelings are not evidence. Even Trump’s call with Georgia...every conspiracy theory he suggested was debunked. Every. Single. One.

        It’s not about opinions, it’s about reality. Opinions are valid when it comes to cooking steak, not counting votes.

        KlausK Offline
        KlausK Offline
        Klaus
        wrote on last edited by
        #221

        @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

        Opinions are valid when it comes to cooking steak

        That said, it is a fact that cooking a steak well-done is a waste of good meat. Or isn't it?

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        • George KG George K

          https://tulsaworld.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/inhofe-ive-never-seen-mike-pence-as-angry-as-he-was-today/article_439af4ae-5082-11eb-96b1-53cf9e218598.html

          Inhofe hedged on who he thought might be to blame for what happened, but he allowed that Trump did not do enough to stop it.

          “He’s only put out one statement that I’m aware of,” Inhofe said. “This was really a riot. He should have shown more disdain for the rioters. I don’t want to say he should have apologized — that’s not exactly accurate — but he should have expressed more disdain.”

          Instead, Trump directed his disdain toward Vice President Mike Pence, who refused to do what Trump wanted him to do — illegally refuse to accept the final election results in his role as Senate president.

          By doing so, he may have alienated one of his most steadfast allies.

          “I’ve known Mike Pence forever,” Inhofe said Tuesday night. “I’ve never seen Pence as angry as he was today.

          “I had a long conversation with him,” said Inhofe. “He said, ‘After all the things I’ve done for (Trump).’”

          Doctor PhibesD Online
          Doctor PhibesD Online
          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on last edited by
          #222

          @george-k said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

          https://tulsaworld.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/inhofe-ive-never-seen-mike-pence-as-angry-as-he-was-today/article_439af4ae-5082-11eb-96b1-53cf9e218598.html

          Inhofe hedged on who he thought might be to blame for what happened, but he allowed that Trump did not do enough to stop it.

          “He’s only put out one statement that I’m aware of,” Inhofe said. “This was really a riot. He should have shown more disdain for the rioters. I don’t want to say he should have apologized — that’s not exactly accurate — but he should have expressed more disdain.”

          Instead, Trump directed his disdain toward Vice President Mike Pence, who refused to do what Trump wanted him to do — illegally refuse to accept the final election results in his role as Senate president.

          By doing so, he may have alienated one of his most steadfast allies.

          “I’ve known Mike Pence forever,” Inhofe said Tuesday night. “I’ve never seen Pence as angry as he was today.

          “I had a long conversation with him,” said Inhofe. “He said, ‘After all the things I’ve done for (Trump).’”

          Once again, I'm left feeling very sorry for Mike Pence.

          I was only joking

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          • KlausK Klaus

            @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

            @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

            @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

            @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

            @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

            the side who believes this election was stolen feels

            Too much "believes" and "feels" - we have laws for a reason.

            Once feels > laws - then, I agree, we have a whole whack of new problems.

            For longer than you've been alive your side has based it's entire worldview on "believing" and "feeling". You just jumped the shark.

            Who are you talking to? You quoted my post.

            It should be obvious that I'm talking to you.

            The problem is that you seem to be unable to distinguish "individual who disagrees with me on point X" from "the other tribe, which I hate". You do this every day on this forum. There is no uniform "other tribe". If you want to have a productive conversation with people, you need to address them as individuals, not as members of a tribe. You always seem to need a box with a label in which you can put people and treat them all the same.

            jon-nycJ Offline
            jon-nycJ Offline
            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by
            #223

            @klaus said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

            The problem is that you seem to be unable to distinguish "individual who disagrees with me on point X" from "the other tribe, which I hate". You do this every day on this forum. There is no uniform "other tribe". If you want to have a productive conversation with people, you need to address them as individuals, not as members of a tribe. You always seem to need a box with a label in which you can put people and treat them all the same.

            Typical fucking German.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
            KlausK 1 Reply Last reply
            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              @klaus said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

              The problem is that you seem to be unable to distinguish "individual who disagrees with me on point X" from "the other tribe, which I hate". You do this every day on this forum. There is no uniform "other tribe". If you want to have a productive conversation with people, you need to address them as individuals, not as members of a tribe. You always seem to need a box with a label in which you can put people and treat them all the same.

              Typical fucking German.

              KlausK Offline
              KlausK Offline
              Klaus
              wrote on last edited by
              #224

              @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

              @klaus said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

              The problem is that you seem to be unable to distinguish "individual who disagrees with me on point X" from "the other tribe, which I hate". You do this every day on this forum. There is no uniform "other tribe". If you want to have a productive conversation with people, you need to address them as individuals, not as members of a tribe. You always seem to need a box with a label in which you can put people and treat them all the same.

              Typical fucking German.

              Fucking is a town in Austria, not Germany, goddammit.

              jon-nycJ 1 Reply Last reply
              • KlausK Klaus

                @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                @klaus said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                The problem is that you seem to be unable to distinguish "individual who disagrees with me on point X" from "the other tribe, which I hate". You do this every day on this forum. There is no uniform "other tribe". If you want to have a productive conversation with people, you need to address them as individuals, not as members of a tribe. You always seem to need a box with a label in which you can put people and treat them all the same.

                Typical fucking German.

                Fucking is a town in Austria, not Germany, goddammit.

                jon-nycJ Offline
                jon-nycJ Offline
                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #225

                @Klaus Not anymore!

                https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/26/fugging-hell-tired-of-mockery-austrian-village-changes-name

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • LarryL Offline
                  LarryL Offline
                  Larry
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #226

                  @klaus said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                  @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                  @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                  @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                  @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                  @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                  the side who believes this election was stolen feels

                  Too much "believes" and "feels" - we have laws for a reason.

                  Once feels > laws - then, I agree, we have a whole whack of new problems.

                  For longer than you've been alive your side has based it's entire worldview on "believing" and "feeling". You just jumped the shark.

                  Who are you talking to? You quoted my post.

                  It should be obvious that I'm talking to you.

                  The problem is that you seem to be unable to distinguish "individual who disagrees with me on point X" from "the other tribe, which I hate". You do this every day on this forum. There is no uniform "other tribe". If you want to have a productive conversation with people, you need to address them as individuals, not as members of a tribe. You always seem to need a box with a label in which you can put people and treat them all the same.

                  I go out of my way to point out that (99% of the time) I'm not talking about any specific individual. You see what you want to see, I see some individuals who think I'm talking about them personally every time I say something. If you have trouble sorting it out its not my fault.

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                  • LarryL Larry

                    @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                    @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                    You think he "lost". Me and half of this country thinks he won, but the election was stolen. Our opinion is just as valid as yours

                    Half the country doesn’t think Trump won...that right there is a perfect example of why facts matter and it’s not about opinions.

                    The opinion that the election was stolen is not as valid as the opinion that Biden won. All facts and evidence support a Biden win and a fair election. Court after court has found this based on the lack of evidence. Opinions and feelings are not evidence. Even Trump’s call with Georgia...every conspiracy theory he suggested was debunked. Every. Single. One.

                    It’s not about opinions, it’s about reality. Opinions are valid when it comes to cooking steak, not counting votes.

                    Naturally if half think he won, then half thinks he didn't. That the election was stolen is not opinion, it's fact. YOU are the one pushing your opinion on there, not the other way around. The statement "all facts and evidence support a Biden win and a fair election" is false. Either you're a liar or you're just ignorant, take your pick. No court has listened to any evidence. That is another case where youre either a liar or just ignorant. You also mischaracterize Trump's call to Georgia.

                    So shove your opinion - and that's ALL you have - square up your ass.

                    89th8 Offline
                    89th8 Offline
                    89th
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #227

                    @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                    That the election was stolen is not opinion, it's fact.

                    LOL, OK

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                    • LarryL Larry

                      @klaus said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                      @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                      @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                      @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                      @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                      @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                      the side who believes this election was stolen feels

                      Too much "believes" and "feels" - we have laws for a reason.

                      Once feels > laws - then, I agree, we have a whole whack of new problems.

                      For longer than you've been alive your side has based it's entire worldview on "believing" and "feeling". You just jumped the shark.

                      Who are you talking to? You quoted my post.

                      It should be obvious that I'm talking to you.

                      The problem is that you seem to be unable to distinguish "individual who disagrees with me on point X" from "the other tribe, which I hate". You do this every day on this forum. There is no uniform "other tribe". If you want to have a productive conversation with people, you need to address them as individuals, not as members of a tribe. You always seem to need a box with a label in which you can put people and treat them all the same.

                      I go out of my way to point out that (99% of the time) I'm not talking about any specific individual. You see what you want to see, I see some individuals who think I'm talking about them personally every time I say something. If you have trouble sorting it out its not my fault.

                      KlausK Offline
                      KlausK Offline
                      Klaus
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #228

                      @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                      @klaus said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                      @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                      @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                      @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                      @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                      @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                      the side who believes this election was stolen feels

                      Too much "believes" and "feels" - we have laws for a reason.

                      Once feels > laws - then, I agree, we have a whole whack of new problems.

                      For longer than you've been alive your side has based it's entire worldview on "believing" and "feeling". You just jumped the shark.

                      Who are you talking to? You quoted my post.

                      It should be obvious that I'm talking to you.

                      The problem is that you seem to be unable to distinguish "individual who disagrees with me on point X" from "the other tribe, which I hate". You do this every day on this forum. There is no uniform "other tribe". If you want to have a productive conversation with people, you need to address them as individuals, not as members of a tribe. You always seem to need a box with a label in which you can put people and treat them all the same.

                      I go out of my way to point out that (99% of the time) I'm not talking about any specific individual. You see what you want to see, I see some individuals who think I'm talking about them personally every time I say something. If you have trouble sorting it out its not my fault.

                      No, it's quite often not at all clear. Also, who are you talking to when you are not talking to an individual? Can, whoever you attack, defend himself/herself here?

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