Norsemen!
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wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 12:20 last edited by
I binged through the first half of the season, fast-forwarding through a lot of the irrelevant stuff and battle scenes to get caught up.
Today, I start the second half.
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I binged through the first half of the season, fast-forwarding through a lot of the irrelevant stuff and battle scenes to get caught up.
Today, I start the second half.
wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 12:53 last edited byParts of episodes are really drawn out. That pattern continues and potentially gets even more so. I didn’t mind enough enough to be critical of the season itself.
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wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 12:59 last edited by
I've seen the first two episodes of 602. So far so good.
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wrote on 6 Jan 2021, 18:25 last edited by
https://ew.com/tv/vikings-finale-michael-hirst/
Can you talk a bit about the upcoming spinoff, Vikings: Valhalla?
It's set 100 years from my show, and it features actually some more famous Vikings. People might have heard of Harald Hardrada and Erik the Red. It's a new kind of heroic age, a very different canvas. The Christians and the Christian Vikings are making huge headroads. What Floki always feared is coming to pass. And also, Jeb Stuart, who's writing the show, is essentially a thriller writer, so it is going to be different in many ways. It's a great tribute to the show, I think, that Netflix wanted to do a spinoff.
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https://ew.com/tv/vikings-finale-michael-hirst/
Can you talk a bit about the upcoming spinoff, Vikings: Valhalla?
It's set 100 years from my show, and it features actually some more famous Vikings. People might have heard of Harald Hardrada and Erik the Red. It's a new kind of heroic age, a very different canvas. The Christians and the Christian Vikings are making huge headroads. What Floki always feared is coming to pass. And also, Jeb Stuart, who's writing the show, is essentially a thriller writer, so it is going to be different in many ways. It's a great tribute to the show, I think, that Netflix wanted to do a spinoff.
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https://ew.com/tv/vikings-finale-michael-hirst/
Can you talk a bit about the upcoming spinoff, Vikings: Valhalla?
It's set 100 years from my show, and it features actually some more famous Vikings. People might have heard of Harald Hardrada and Erik the Red. It's a new kind of heroic age, a very different canvas. The Christians and the Christian Vikings are making huge headroads. What Floki always feared is coming to pass. And also, Jeb Stuart, who's writing the show, is essentially a thriller writer, so it is going to be different in many ways. It's a great tribute to the show, I think, that Netflix wanted to do a spinoff.
wrote on 6 Jan 2021, 21:58 last edited by Loki 1 Jun 2021, 21:58https://ew.com/tv/vikings-finale-michael-hirst/
Can you talk a bit about the upcoming spinoff, Vikings: Valhalla?
It's set 100 years from my show, and it features actually some more famous Vikings. People might have heard of Harald Hardrada and Erik the Red. It's a new kind of heroic age, a very different canvas. The Christians and the Christian Vikings are making huge headroads. What Floki always feared is coming to pass. And also, Jeb Stuart, who's writing the show, is essentially a thriller writer, so it is going to be different in many ways. It's a great tribute to the show, I think, that Netflix wanted to do a spinoff.
We finished last night.
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wrote on 6 Jan 2021, 22:16 last edited by
I am delighted to see they will proceed. Most people, myself included, did not understand the impact the Vikings had on the known world. There's a lot more story to tell.
We are four episodes in. Well, I am. MFR is not a fan.
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https://ew.com/tv/vikings-finale-michael-hirst/
Can you talk a bit about the upcoming spinoff, Vikings: Valhalla?
It's set 100 years from my show, and it features actually some more famous Vikings. People might have heard of Harald Hardrada and Erik the Red. It's a new kind of heroic age, a very different canvas. The Christians and the Christian Vikings are making huge headroads. What Floki always feared is coming to pass. And also, Jeb Stuart, who's writing the show, is essentially a thriller writer, so it is going to be different in many ways. It's a great tribute to the show, I think, that Netflix wanted to do a spinoff.
We finished last night.
wrote on 6 Jan 2021, 22:21 last edited byWe finished last night.
It was a satisfying ending to a long, long story.
But, there were, IMO, too many "throwaway" stories - Finehair's witch wife, for example. The whole Greenland subplot for another. It's almost as though they tried to extend the story to last another 10 episodes.
Historically, there were lots of liberties taken, even more than in previous seasons.
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No evidence that Ubbe made it to North America, for example.
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Nevertheless, it was nice to see Floki again. He was the unifying character through the series.
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I enjoyed it, overall. A lot. Time well spent and very entertaining. High production values, great sets and scenery. Interesting characters, and a story that always seemed to be "going somewhere" despite the detours I mentioned above.
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We finished last night.
It was a satisfying ending to a long, long story.
But, there were, IMO, too many "throwaway" stories - Finehair's witch wife, for example. The whole Greenland subplot for another. It's almost as though they tried to extend the story to last another 10 episodes.
Historically, there were lots of liberties taken, even more than in previous seasons.
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No evidence that Ubbe made it to North America, for example.
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Nevertheless, it was nice to see Floki again. He was the unifying character through the series.
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I enjoyed it, overall. A lot. Time well spent and very entertaining. High production values, great sets and scenery. Interesting characters, and a story that always seemed to be "going somewhere" despite the detours I mentioned above.
wrote on 6 Jan 2021, 22:31 last edited byWe finished last night.
It was a satisfying ending to a long, long story.
But, there were, IMO, too many "throwaway" stories - Finehair's witch wife, for example. The whole Greenland subplot for another. It's almost as though they tried to extend the story to last another 10 episodes.
Historically, there were lots of liberties taken, even more than in previous seasons.
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No evidence that Ubbe made it to North America, for example.
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Nevertheless, it was nice to see Floki again. He was the unifying character through the series.
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I enjoyed it, overall. A lot. Time well spent and very entertaining. High production values, great sets and scenery. Interesting characters, and a story that always seemed to be "going somewhere" despite the detours I mentioned above.
I would agree 100%. I want to go back and watch an episode from season 1 just to see how much it all evolved.
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We finished last night.
It was a satisfying ending to a long, long story.
But, there were, IMO, too many "throwaway" stories - Finehair's witch wife, for example. The whole Greenland subplot for another. It's almost as though they tried to extend the story to last another 10 episodes.
Historically, there were lots of liberties taken, even more than in previous seasons.
:::
No evidence that Ubbe made it to North America, for example.
:::
:::
Nevertheless, it was nice to see Floki again. He was the unifying character through the series.
:::
I enjoyed it, overall. A lot. Time well spent and very entertaining. High production values, great sets and scenery. Interesting characters, and a story that always seemed to be "going somewhere" despite the detours I mentioned above.
I would agree 100%. I want to go back and watch an episode from season 1 just to see how much it all evolved.
wrote on 6 Jan 2021, 22:39 last edited by@loki in my opinion, it was never the same after Ragnar.
The show-runner/producer commented that he wanted to kill Ragnar off at the end of Season 1, but he was such a great presence that he was able to justify him for another 2-3 years.
None of his sons, as portrayed in the series, rose to the charisma of Ragnar. They were surely interesting, Bjorn probably being the most interesting and Ivar being the perfect foil, but ... Ragnar!
I got disenchanted with Floki's mysticism and all that crap. It was a story that went nowhere, IMO.
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@loki in my opinion, it was never the same after Ragnar.
The show-runner/producer commented that he wanted to kill Ragnar off at the end of Season 1, but he was such a great presence that he was able to justify him for another 2-3 years.
None of his sons, as portrayed in the series, rose to the charisma of Ragnar. They were surely interesting, Bjorn probably being the most interesting and Ivar being the perfect foil, but ... Ragnar!
I got disenchanted with Floki's mysticism and all that crap. It was a story that went nowhere, IMO.
wrote on 6 Jan 2021, 23:25 last edited by@loki in my opinion, it was never the same after Ragnar.
The show-runner/producer commented that he wanted to kill Ragnar off at the end of Season 1, but he was such a great presence that he was able to justify him for another 2-3 years.
None of his sons, as portrayed in the series, rose to the charisma of Ragnar. They were surely interesting, Bjorn probably being the most interesting and Ivar being the perfect foil, but ... Ragnar!
I got disenchanted with Floki's mysticism and all that crap. It was a story that went nowhere, IMO.
I hear you but it allowed the women to become very interesting. Lagertha in particular. All the men we’re deeply flawed after Ragnar. Ivar the boneless made a big transition which wasn’t entirely convincing based on his past.
Floki is ultimately just inexplicable after being so important.
So it is pleasing I think because everyone who likes the show has a secret desire to be a Viking. Fearless, fate driven, adventurous, strong sense of justice, unafraid to die, driven by these powerful gods, earning entry to Valhalla and the mystical soothsayer.
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@loki in my opinion, it was never the same after Ragnar.
The show-runner/producer commented that he wanted to kill Ragnar off at the end of Season 1, but he was such a great presence that he was able to justify him for another 2-3 years.
None of his sons, as portrayed in the series, rose to the charisma of Ragnar. They were surely interesting, Bjorn probably being the most interesting and Ivar being the perfect foil, but ... Ragnar!
I got disenchanted with Floki's mysticism and all that crap. It was a story that went nowhere, IMO.
I hear you but it allowed the women to become very interesting. Lagertha in particular. All the men we’re deeply flawed after Ragnar. Ivar the boneless made a big transition which wasn’t entirely convincing based on his past.
Floki is ultimately just inexplicable after being so important.
So it is pleasing I think because everyone who likes the show has a secret desire to be a Viking. Fearless, fate driven, adventurous, strong sense of justice, unafraid to die, driven by these powerful gods, earning entry to Valhalla and the mystical soothsayer.
wrote on 6 Jan 2021, 23:32 last edited byI hear you but it allowed the women to become very interesting. Lagertha in particular. All the men we’re deeply flawed after Ragnar. Ivar the boneless made a big transition which wasn’t entirely convincing based on his past.
Yes, in the last few episodes they almost seemed to try to make him a sympathetic character. Didn't work for me. The historical Ivar aside, he was almost a cartoon-ish villain. Don't try to rehabilitate him in the last 4 or so episodes.
Floki is ultimately just inexplicable after being so important.
Yes, why bring him back? That ship sailed a long time ago. Let it rest.
So it is pleasing I think because everyone who likes the show has a secret desire to be a Viking. Fearless, fate driven, adventurous, strong sense of justice, unafraid to die, driven by these powerful gods, earning entry to Valhalla and the mystical soothsayer.
Again, yes. The adventure of the story was good, despite its flaws. Those flaws were not toxic to the tale, but evidence that the writers didn't know what they wanted to do. I suppose I could say the same thing about the last season of Hell on Wheels. But, unlike Game of Thrones, I always felt the story was going somewhere, rather than meandering about a narrative. The ending was good, satisfying, even though some stories were hurried, added as irrelevant, or historically inaccurate (a mild objection, to be sure).
It was a hell of a good ride.
In retrospect, if I had to think back (wait, isn't that what "in restropect" means?), I think the first three seasons were the strongest.
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wrote on 6 Jan 2021, 23:47 last edited by
I liked that they did something with Floki
He was a big deal in the show
You can debate what they did, but his story needed some update
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I liked that they did something with Floki
He was a big deal in the show
You can debate what they did, but his story needed some update
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wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 21:44 last edited by
Just finished E20. I don't know that Floki's reappearance was satisfying or really necessary, but it did tie in to the end of the Viking golden age.
Rehabilitating Ivar was a bit ridiculous, and he did not die in Wessex, but in Dublin.
Still, as is said, a great ride. Will look forward to the sequel.
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wrote on 15 Jan 2021, 02:58 last edited by
Teed up The Last Kingdom...quite randomly.
Surprisingly engaging. Worth a peek. I’m all in for now at least.
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Teed up The Last Kingdom...quite randomly.
Surprisingly engaging. Worth a peek. I’m all in for now at least.
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