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  • MikM Offline
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    Oh, happy day!

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      Season 6B (602)
      On Amazon Prime Video now

      They knew to automatically put it on my view list

      https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B08QRGTRGJ/ref=atv_hm_hom_1_c_iEgOEZ_2_1

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      • CopperC Copper

        Season 6B (602)
        On Amazon Prime Video now

        They knew to automatically put it on my view list

        https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B08QRGTRGJ/ref=atv_hm_hom_1_c_iEgOEZ_2_1

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        @copper said in Norsemen!:

        Season 6B (602)
        On Amazon Prime Video now

        THE WHOLE SEASON???

        Well, I guess I know what I'm doing this weekend!

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          @copper said in Norsemen!:

          Season 6B (602)
          On Amazon Prime Video now

          THE WHOLE SEASON???

          Well, I guess I know what I'm doing this weekend!

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          @george-k Yup, I'll start tonight

          I was surprised yesterday when I saw it on my watch list

          I guess they knew I watched the beginning of season 6, and figured I would want to watch the rest of it

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            I hope MFR loves me and loves dinner so I can watch Vikings....

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              I finished the first 3 episodes

              Big developments

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                Just finished Episode 15. Just saying.

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                  Plenty of surprises

                  Including some that could be predicted if you have been paying attention

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                    I binged through the first half of the season, fast-forwarding through a lot of the irrelevant stuff and battle scenes to get caught up.

                    Today, I start the second half.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      I binged through the first half of the season, fast-forwarding through a lot of the irrelevant stuff and battle scenes to get caught up.

                      Today, I start the second half.

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                      Parts of episodes are really drawn out. That pattern continues and potentially gets even more so. I didn’t mind enough enough to be critical of the season itself.

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                        I've seen the first two episodes of 602. So far so good.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          https://ew.com/tv/vikings-finale-michael-hirst/

                          Can you talk a bit about the upcoming spinoff, Vikings: Valhalla?

                          It's set 100 years from my show, and it features actually some more famous Vikings. People might have heard of Harald Hardrada and Erik the Red. It's a new kind of heroic age, a very different canvas. The Christians and the Christian Vikings are making huge headroads. What Floki always feared is coming to pass. And also, Jeb Stuart, who's writing the show, is essentially a thriller writer, so it is going to be different in many ways. It's a great tribute to the show, I think, that Netflix wanted to do a spinoff.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            https://ew.com/tv/vikings-finale-michael-hirst/

                            Can you talk a bit about the upcoming spinoff, Vikings: Valhalla?

                            It's set 100 years from my show, and it features actually some more famous Vikings. People might have heard of Harald Hardrada and Erik the Red. It's a new kind of heroic age, a very different canvas. The Christians and the Christian Vikings are making huge headroads. What Floki always feared is coming to pass. And also, Jeb Stuart, who's writing the show, is essentially a thriller writer, so it is going to be different in many ways. It's a great tribute to the show, I think, that Netflix wanted to do a spinoff.

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                            @george-k said in Norsemen!:

                            And also, Jeb Stuart, who's writing the show,

                            Racist!

                            His statue has been removed from Richmond

                            That writer should find a new name

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                            • George KG George K

                              https://ew.com/tv/vikings-finale-michael-hirst/

                              Can you talk a bit about the upcoming spinoff, Vikings: Valhalla?

                              It's set 100 years from my show, and it features actually some more famous Vikings. People might have heard of Harald Hardrada and Erik the Red. It's a new kind of heroic age, a very different canvas. The Christians and the Christian Vikings are making huge headroads. What Floki always feared is coming to pass. And also, Jeb Stuart, who's writing the show, is essentially a thriller writer, so it is going to be different in many ways. It's a great tribute to the show, I think, that Netflix wanted to do a spinoff.

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                              @george-k said in Norsemen!:

                              https://ew.com/tv/vikings-finale-michael-hirst/

                              Can you talk a bit about the upcoming spinoff, Vikings: Valhalla?

                              It's set 100 years from my show, and it features actually some more famous Vikings. People might have heard of Harald Hardrada and Erik the Red. It's a new kind of heroic age, a very different canvas. The Christians and the Christian Vikings are making huge headroads. What Floki always feared is coming to pass. And also, Jeb Stuart, who's writing the show, is essentially a thriller writer, so it is going to be different in many ways. It's a great tribute to the show, I think, that Netflix wanted to do a spinoff.

                              We finished last night.

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                                I am delighted to see they will proceed. Most people, myself included, did not understand the impact the Vikings had on the known world. There's a lot more story to tell.

                                We are four episodes in. Well, I am. MFR is not a fan.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  @george-k said in Norsemen!:

                                  https://ew.com/tv/vikings-finale-michael-hirst/

                                  Can you talk a bit about the upcoming spinoff, Vikings: Valhalla?

                                  It's set 100 years from my show, and it features actually some more famous Vikings. People might have heard of Harald Hardrada and Erik the Red. It's a new kind of heroic age, a very different canvas. The Christians and the Christian Vikings are making huge headroads. What Floki always feared is coming to pass. And also, Jeb Stuart, who's writing the show, is essentially a thriller writer, so it is going to be different in many ways. It's a great tribute to the show, I think, that Netflix wanted to do a spinoff.

                                  We finished last night.

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                                  @loki said in Norsemen!:

                                  We finished last night.

                                  It was a satisfying ending to a long, long story.

                                  But, there were, IMO, too many "throwaway" stories - Finehair's witch wife, for example. The whole Greenland subplot for another. It's almost as though they tried to extend the story to last another 10 episodes.

                                  Historically, there were lots of liberties taken, even more than in previous seasons.

                                  :::

                                  No evidence that Ubbe made it to North America, for example.

                                  :::

                                  :::

                                  Nevertheless, it was nice to see Floki again. He was the unifying character through the series.

                                  :::

                                  I enjoyed it, overall. A lot. Time well spent and very entertaining. High production values, great sets and scenery. Interesting characters, and a story that always seemed to be "going somewhere" despite the detours I mentioned above.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @loki said in Norsemen!:

                                    We finished last night.

                                    It was a satisfying ending to a long, long story.

                                    But, there were, IMO, too many "throwaway" stories - Finehair's witch wife, for example. The whole Greenland subplot for another. It's almost as though they tried to extend the story to last another 10 episodes.

                                    Historically, there were lots of liberties taken, even more than in previous seasons.

                                    :::

                                    No evidence that Ubbe made it to North America, for example.

                                    :::

                                    :::

                                    Nevertheless, it was nice to see Floki again. He was the unifying character through the series.

                                    :::

                                    I enjoyed it, overall. A lot. Time well spent and very entertaining. High production values, great sets and scenery. Interesting characters, and a story that always seemed to be "going somewhere" despite the detours I mentioned above.

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                                    @george-k said in Norsemen!:

                                    @loki said in Norsemen!:

                                    We finished last night.

                                    It was a satisfying ending to a long, long story.

                                    But, there were, IMO, too many "throwaway" stories - Finehair's witch wife, for example. The whole Greenland subplot for another. It's almost as though they tried to extend the story to last another 10 episodes.

                                    Historically, there were lots of liberties taken, even more than in previous seasons.

                                    :::

                                    No evidence that Ubbe made it to North America, for example.

                                    :::

                                    :::

                                    Nevertheless, it was nice to see Floki again. He was the unifying character through the series.

                                    :::

                                    I enjoyed it, overall. A lot. Time well spent and very entertaining. High production values, great sets and scenery. Interesting characters, and a story that always seemed to be "going somewhere" despite the detours I mentioned above.

                                    I would agree 100%. I want to go back and watch an episode from season 1 just to see how much it all evolved.

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                                      @george-k said in Norsemen!:

                                      @loki said in Norsemen!:

                                      We finished last night.

                                      It was a satisfying ending to a long, long story.

                                      But, there were, IMO, too many "throwaway" stories - Finehair's witch wife, for example. The whole Greenland subplot for another. It's almost as though they tried to extend the story to last another 10 episodes.

                                      Historically, there were lots of liberties taken, even more than in previous seasons.

                                      :::

                                      No evidence that Ubbe made it to North America, for example.

                                      :::

                                      :::

                                      Nevertheless, it was nice to see Floki again. He was the unifying character through the series.

                                      :::

                                      I enjoyed it, overall. A lot. Time well spent and very entertaining. High production values, great sets and scenery. Interesting characters, and a story that always seemed to be "going somewhere" despite the detours I mentioned above.

                                      I would agree 100%. I want to go back and watch an episode from season 1 just to see how much it all evolved.

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                                      @loki in my opinion, it was never the same after Ragnar.

                                      The show-runner/producer commented that he wanted to kill Ragnar off at the end of Season 1, but he was such a great presence that he was able to justify him for another 2-3 years.

                                      None of his sons, as portrayed in the series, rose to the charisma of Ragnar. They were surely interesting, Bjorn probably being the most interesting and Ivar being the perfect foil, but ... Ragnar!

                                      I got disenchanted with Floki's mysticism and all that crap. It was a story that went nowhere, IMO.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @loki in my opinion, it was never the same after Ragnar.

                                        The show-runner/producer commented that he wanted to kill Ragnar off at the end of Season 1, but he was such a great presence that he was able to justify him for another 2-3 years.

                                        None of his sons, as portrayed in the series, rose to the charisma of Ragnar. They were surely interesting, Bjorn probably being the most interesting and Ivar being the perfect foil, but ... Ragnar!

                                        I got disenchanted with Floki's mysticism and all that crap. It was a story that went nowhere, IMO.

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                                        @george-k said in Norsemen!:

                                        @loki in my opinion, it was never the same after Ragnar.

                                        The show-runner/producer commented that he wanted to kill Ragnar off at the end of Season 1, but he was such a great presence that he was able to justify him for another 2-3 years.

                                        None of his sons, as portrayed in the series, rose to the charisma of Ragnar. They were surely interesting, Bjorn probably being the most interesting and Ivar being the perfect foil, but ... Ragnar!

                                        I got disenchanted with Floki's mysticism and all that crap. It was a story that went nowhere, IMO.

                                        I hear you but it allowed the women to become very interesting. Lagertha in particular. All the men we’re deeply flawed after Ragnar. Ivar the boneless made a big transition which wasn’t entirely convincing based on his past.

                                        Floki is ultimately just inexplicable after being so important.

                                        So it is pleasing I think because everyone who likes the show has a secret desire to be a Viking. Fearless, fate driven, adventurous, strong sense of justice, unafraid to die, driven by these powerful gods, earning entry to Valhalla and the mystical soothsayer.

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                                          @george-k said in Norsemen!:

                                          @loki in my opinion, it was never the same after Ragnar.

                                          The show-runner/producer commented that he wanted to kill Ragnar off at the end of Season 1, but he was such a great presence that he was able to justify him for another 2-3 years.

                                          None of his sons, as portrayed in the series, rose to the charisma of Ragnar. They were surely interesting, Bjorn probably being the most interesting and Ivar being the perfect foil, but ... Ragnar!

                                          I got disenchanted with Floki's mysticism and all that crap. It was a story that went nowhere, IMO.

                                          I hear you but it allowed the women to become very interesting. Lagertha in particular. All the men we’re deeply flawed after Ragnar. Ivar the boneless made a big transition which wasn’t entirely convincing based on his past.

                                          Floki is ultimately just inexplicable after being so important.

                                          So it is pleasing I think because everyone who likes the show has a secret desire to be a Viking. Fearless, fate driven, adventurous, strong sense of justice, unafraid to die, driven by these powerful gods, earning entry to Valhalla and the mystical soothsayer.

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                                          @loki said in Norsemen!:

                                          I hear you but it allowed the women to become very interesting. Lagertha in particular. All the men we’re deeply flawed after Ragnar. Ivar the boneless made a big transition which wasn’t entirely convincing based on his past.

                                          Yes, in the last few episodes they almost seemed to try to make him a sympathetic character. Didn't work for me. The historical Ivar aside, he was almost a cartoon-ish villain. Don't try to rehabilitate him in the last 4 or so episodes.

                                          Floki is ultimately just inexplicable after being so important.

                                          Yes, why bring him back? That ship sailed a long time ago. Let it rest.

                                          So it is pleasing I think because everyone who likes the show has a secret desire to be a Viking. Fearless, fate driven, adventurous, strong sense of justice, unafraid to die, driven by these powerful gods, earning entry to Valhalla and the mystical soothsayer.

                                          Again, yes. The adventure of the story was good, despite its flaws. Those flaws were not toxic to the tale, but evidence that the writers didn't know what they wanted to do. I suppose I could say the same thing about the last season of Hell on Wheels. But, unlike Game of Thrones, I always felt the story was going somewhere, rather than meandering about a narrative. The ending was good, satisfying, even though some stories were hurried, added as irrelevant, or historically inaccurate (a mild objection, to be sure).

                                          It was a hell of a good ride.

                                          In retrospect, if I had to think back (wait, isn't that what "in restropect" means?), I think the first three seasons were the strongest.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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