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  • HoraceH Online
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    Horace
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    Trump is a winner in the hearts and minds of all decent people.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • 89th8 Online
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      This is like the Saints winning the Super Bowl in February and in April fans of the other team are still saying “it’s not over, we might still win” 😂

      Yes I picked the Saints to get @Jolly ’s attention 🙂

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      • HoraceH Horace

        Trump is a winner in the hearts and minds of all decent people.

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        @horace said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

        Trump is a winner in the hearts and minds of all decent people.

        His life is a series of wins, followed by a loss, then a bigger win.

        Casino mogul gone bust -> Reality TV superstar gone stale -> President who lost after one term and brought congress down with him -> Emperor of the Galactic Federation? Overthrown by?...

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          The only potential hang-up (IMO) is the PA State Legislature request yesterday, and even that is too little/too late. They really needed to raise their objections regarding the PA Supreme Court and the Governor's actions before the election. Even then, they had 2 months to take action and didn't. At any rate the PA Electors alone aren't enough...

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            The only potential hang-up (IMO) is the PA State Legislature request yesterday, and even that is too little/too late. They really needed to raise their objections regarding the PA Supreme Court and the Governor's actions before the election. Even then, they had 2 months to take action and didn't. At any rate the PA Electors alone aren't enough...

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            @lufins-dad

            It wasn’t the legislature, it was some legislators.

            And their issues were already adjudicated by the PA Supreme Court.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • LarryL Offline
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              @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

              @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

              Am I taking crazy pills? How is this not the biggest political scandal/blunder in the last 100 years? A sitting president making this type of statement to throw out an election he lost?

              The pure HATE that you and the rest of the Trump haters here spew is just stunning. I'm serious. All of you are suffering from a deep psychotic break.

              First, there's a huge difference between losing because the other guy got more legitimate votes, and losing because the other guy benefited from election fraud. If you keep shoving that "he lost" line down our ( the half of the country that sees this differently than you do) couched in your attitude of "and if you don't believe what I believe you're crazy" tone, this cold war is going to get hot.

              You think he "lost". Me and half of this country thinks he won, but the election was stolen. Our opinion is just as valid as yours, we are just as smart as you are, we are just as well informed as you are, bit because the fraud that occurred was "death by a thousand cuts" instead of one big go to event that you would have no choice but to acknowledge, you insist on repeatedly insulting us by mocking our views, and refusing to even consider the poi d's we make.

              Lastly, before you get too high and mighty in attacking and mocking us, what will happen in Congress today (challenging the vote count) has been done before. In fact, the democrats did it the last three republicans to be elected.

              Two days ago Trump held a rally in Georgia ahead of the vote. Something like 20,000 people showed up. Biden held a rally too. Almost no one showed up. As we speak, Trump is holding as rally in DC. Tens of thousands of people are there. Yet you expect us to accept that a man who can't draw enough interest to fill a school bus who keeps referring to the "Harris presidency" legitimately won the election and refuse to listen to things like Detroit having 139% voter turnout...

              Oh think we are nuts. We think you are nuts. Fine, both sides thinks the other side is nuts. But if you keep shoving this shit down our throats without allowing for a resolution, and mocking us, I am telling you the lid is going to blow off this thing and the damage will be beyond repair.

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                @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                Am I taking crazy pills? How is this not the biggest political scandal/blunder in the last 100 years? A sitting president making this type of statement to throw out an election he lost?

                The pure HATE that you and the rest of the Trump haters here spew is just stunning. I'm serious. All of you are suffering from a deep psychotic break.

                First, there's a huge difference between losing because the other guy got more legitimate votes, and losing because the other guy benefited from election fraud. If you keep shoving that "he lost" line down our ( the half of the country that sees this differently than you do) couched in your attitude of "and if you don't believe what I believe you're crazy" tone, this cold war is going to get hot.

                You think he "lost". Me and half of this country thinks he won, but the election was stolen. Our opinion is just as valid as yours, we are just as smart as you are, we are just as well informed as you are, bit because the fraud that occurred was "death by a thousand cuts" instead of one big go to event that you would have no choice but to acknowledge, you insist on repeatedly insulting us by mocking our views, and refusing to even consider the poi d's we make.

                Lastly, before you get too high and mighty in attacking and mocking us, what will happen in Congress today (challenging the vote count) has been done before. In fact, the democrats did it the last three republicans to be elected.

                Two days ago Trump held a rally in Georgia ahead of the vote. Something like 20,000 people showed up. Biden held a rally too. Almost no one showed up. As we speak, Trump is holding as rally in DC. Tens of thousands of people are there. Yet you expect us to accept that a man who can't draw enough interest to fill a school bus who keeps referring to the "Harris presidency" legitimately won the election and refuse to listen to things like Detroit having 139% voter turnout...

                Oh think we are nuts. We think you are nuts. Fine, both sides thinks the other side is nuts. But if you keep shoving this shit down our throats without allowing for a resolution, and mocking us, I am telling you the lid is going to blow off this thing and the damage will be beyond repair.

                Larry, Detroit voter turnout was 50%. Roughly 250K out of 500K registered voters.

                As far as rallies vs voters, Kanye’s had concerts with hundreds of thousands of attendees... That didn’t translate into votes.

                The Brad

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                • LarryL Larry

                  @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                  @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                  Am I taking crazy pills? How is this not the biggest political scandal/blunder in the last 100 years? A sitting president making this type of statement to throw out an election he lost?

                  The pure HATE that you and the rest of the Trump haters here spew is just stunning. I'm serious. All of you are suffering from a deep psychotic break.

                  First, there's a huge difference between losing because the other guy got more legitimate votes, and losing because the other guy benefited from election fraud. If you keep shoving that "he lost" line down our ( the half of the country that sees this differently than you do) couched in your attitude of "and if you don't believe what I believe you're crazy" tone, this cold war is going to get hot.

                  You think he "lost". Me and half of this country thinks he won, but the election was stolen. Our opinion is just as valid as yours, we are just as smart as you are, we are just as well informed as you are, bit because the fraud that occurred was "death by a thousand cuts" instead of one big go to event that you would have no choice but to acknowledge, you insist on repeatedly insulting us by mocking our views, and refusing to even consider the poi d's we make.

                  Lastly, before you get too high and mighty in attacking and mocking us, what will happen in Congress today (challenging the vote count) has been done before. In fact, the democrats did it the last three republicans to be elected.

                  Two days ago Trump held a rally in Georgia ahead of the vote. Something like 20,000 people showed up. Biden held a rally too. Almost no one showed up. As we speak, Trump is holding as rally in DC. Tens of thousands of people are there. Yet you expect us to accept that a man who can't draw enough interest to fill a school bus who keeps referring to the "Harris presidency" legitimately won the election and refuse to listen to things like Detroit having 139% voter turnout...

                  Oh think we are nuts. We think you are nuts. Fine, both sides thinks the other side is nuts. But if you keep shoving this shit down our throats without allowing for a resolution, and mocking us, I am telling you the lid is going to blow off this thing and the damage will be beyond repair.

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                  @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                  You think he "lost". Me and half of this country thinks he won, but the election was stolen. Our opinion is just as valid as yours, we are just as smart as you are, we are just as well informed as you are, bit because the fraud that occurred was "death by a thousand cuts" instead of one big go to event that you would have no choice but to acknowledge, you insist on repeatedly insulting us by mocking our views, and refusing to even consider the poi d's we make.

                  Mr. Putin congratulated Biden on his win. Biden's win. It must be tough on your half to face that fact.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • LarryL Larry

                    @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                    @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                    Am I taking crazy pills? How is this not the biggest political scandal/blunder in the last 100 years? A sitting president making this type of statement to throw out an election he lost?

                    The pure HATE that you and the rest of the Trump haters here spew is just stunning. I'm serious. All of you are suffering from a deep psychotic break.

                    First, there's a huge difference between losing because the other guy got more legitimate votes, and losing because the other guy benefited from election fraud. If you keep shoving that "he lost" line down our ( the half of the country that sees this differently than you do) couched in your attitude of "and if you don't believe what I believe you're crazy" tone, this cold war is going to get hot.

                    You think he "lost". Me and half of this country thinks he won, but the election was stolen. Our opinion is just as valid as yours, we are just as smart as you are, we are just as well informed as you are, bit because the fraud that occurred was "death by a thousand cuts" instead of one big go to event that you would have no choice but to acknowledge, you insist on repeatedly insulting us by mocking our views, and refusing to even consider the poi d's we make.

                    Lastly, before you get too high and mighty in attacking and mocking us, what will happen in Congress today (challenging the vote count) has been done before. In fact, the democrats did it the last three republicans to be elected.

                    Two days ago Trump held a rally in Georgia ahead of the vote. Something like 20,000 people showed up. Biden held a rally too. Almost no one showed up. As we speak, Trump is holding as rally in DC. Tens of thousands of people are there. Yet you expect us to accept that a man who can't draw enough interest to fill a school bus who keeps referring to the "Harris presidency" legitimately won the election and refuse to listen to things like Detroit having 139% voter turnout...

                    Oh think we are nuts. We think you are nuts. Fine, both sides thinks the other side is nuts. But if you keep shoving this shit down our throats without allowing for a resolution, and mocking us, I am telling you the lid is going to blow off this thing and the damage will be beyond repair.

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                    @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                    @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                    @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                    Am I taking crazy pills? How is this not the biggest political scandal/blunder in the last 100 years? A sitting president making this type of statement to throw out an election he lost?

                    The pure HATE that you and the rest of the Trump haters here spew is just stunning. I'm serious. All of you are suffering from a deep psychotic break.

                    First, there's a huge difference between losing because the other guy got more legitimate votes, and losing because the other guy benefited from election fraud. If you keep shoving that "he lost" line down our ( the half of the country that sees this differently than you do) couched in your attitude of "and if you don't believe what I believe you're crazy" tone, this cold war is going to get hot.

                    You think he "lost". Me and half of this country thinks he won, but the election was stolen. Our opinion is just as valid as yours, we are just as smart as you are, we are just as well informed as you are, bit because the fraud that occurred was "death by a thousand cuts" instead of one big go to event that you would have no choice but to acknowledge, you insist on repeatedly insulting us by mocking our views, and refusing to even consider the poi d's we make.

                    Lastly, before you get too high and mighty in attacking and mocking us, what will happen in Congress today (challenging the vote count) has been done before. In fact, the democrats did it the last three republicans to be elected.

                    Two days ago Trump held a rally in Georgia ahead of the vote. Something like 20,000 people showed up. Biden held a rally too. Almost no one showed up. As we speak, Trump is holding as rally in DC. Tens of thousands of people are there. Yet you expect us to accept that a man who can't draw enough interest to fill a school bus who keeps referring to the "Harris presidency" legitimately won the election and refuse to listen to things like Detroit having 139% voter turnout...

                    Oh think we are nuts. We think you are nuts. Fine, both sides thinks the other side is nuts. But if you keep shoving this shit down our throats without allowing for a resolution, and mocking us, I am telling you the lid is going to blow off this thing and the damage will be beyond repair.

                    The Vice President has no standing to change an election. Full stop. Trump's a moron, and he's putting a nice fine point on that for history to remember before being shown the door.

                    Detroit having 139% voter turnout

                    You are still using the debunked Russ Ramsland analysis. The one in which he confused MI and MN. I called you out on that a few days ago as well.

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                      BOROWITZ REPORT

                      Republican Party Could Recover as Early as 2096, Experts Say

                      WASHINGTON—In what is being described as a best-case scenario, some political experts are predicting that the Republicans could once again be a viable political party as early as the year 2096.

                      Davis Logsdon, the head of the University of Minnesota's political-science department, said on Saturday that the eighty-year time frame for the Republican Party to recover was "admittedly optimistic, but still doable."

                      "It's not going to be easy, and they have very little margin for error," Logsdon said. "But if they do everything right and a lot of things cut their way, they could be up and running as a somewhat serviceable political party as early as 2096."

                      According to the political strategist Tracy Klugian, however, Logsdon's 2096 target date for the Republicans' comeback is "laughably upbeat."

                      "In order for the G.O.P. to become even a marginally functional political party again, all memory of the 2016 campaign will have to be obliterated," Klugian said. "That means everyone who witnessed it will have to be dead, and probably those people’s children, and their children's children, too. I wouldn't bet on the Republican Party recovering any earlier than the year 2132."

                      When asked about Klugian's assessment, Logsdon said, "Yeah, 2132 is probably more like it."

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        If Trump lost, he lost. But I'm telling you that unless the side who believes this election was stolen feels like they have gotten a fair hearing, we are going to have a hot war. Take a look at your TV screens as we speak. It's close to starting now.

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                          And I might add, you regular Trump bashers who can't even take a fucking break from your Trump bashing to listen to what I'm saying are as much the problem as anything else. Shut your fucking mouth, pull your head out of your ass and look at what's happening.

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                          • LarryL Larry

                            If Trump lost, he lost. But I'm telling you that unless the side who believes this election was stolen feels like they have gotten a fair hearing, we are going to have a hot war. Take a look at your TV screens as we speak. It's close to starting now.

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                            @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                            the side who believes this election was stolen feels

                            Too much "believes" and "feels" - we have laws for a reason.

                            Once feels > laws - then, I agree, we have a whole whack of new problems.

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                            • LarryL Larry

                              And I might add, you regular Trump bashers who can't even take a fucking break from your Trump bashing to listen to what I'm saying are as much the problem as anything else. Shut your fucking mouth, pull your head out of your ass and look at what's happening.

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                              @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                              And I might add, you regular Trump bashers who can't even take a fucking break from your Trump bashing to listen to what I'm saying are as much the problem as anything else. Shut your fucking mouth, pull your head out of your ass and look at what's happening.

                              I listened to Ted. It's bullshit. I read the 1867 situation and 1887 Act. He's throwing bullshit around so he can use a Trump halo in 2024 or something.

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                              • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                BOROWITZ REPORT

                                Republican Party Could Recover as Early as 2096, Experts Say

                                WASHINGTON—In what is being described as a best-case scenario, some political experts are predicting that the Republicans could once again be a viable political party as early as the year 2096.

                                Davis Logsdon, the head of the University of Minnesota's political-science department, said on Saturday that the eighty-year time frame for the Republican Party to recover was "admittedly optimistic, but still doable."

                                "It's not going to be easy, and they have very little margin for error," Logsdon said. "But if they do everything right and a lot of things cut their way, they could be up and running as a somewhat serviceable political party as early as 2096."

                                According to the political strategist Tracy Klugian, however, Logsdon's 2096 target date for the Republicans' comeback is "laughably upbeat."

                                "In order for the G.O.P. to become even a marginally functional political party again, all memory of the 2016 campaign will have to be obliterated," Klugian said. "That means everyone who witnessed it will have to be dead, and probably those people’s children, and their children's children, too. I wouldn't bet on the Republican Party recovering any earlier than the year 2132."

                                When asked about Klugian's assessment, Logsdon said, "Yeah, 2132 is probably more like it."

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                                @catseye3 said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                BOROWITZ REPORT

                                Republican Party Could Recover as Early as 2096, Experts Say

                                WASHINGTON—In what is being described as a best-case scenario, some political experts are predicting that the Republicans could once again be a viable political party as early as the year 2096.

                                Davis Logsdon, the head of the University of Minnesota's political-science department, said on Saturday that the eighty-year time frame for the Republican Party to recover was "admittedly optimistic, but still doable."

                                "It's not going to be easy, and they have very little margin for error," Logsdon said. "But if they do everything right and a lot of things cut their way, they could be up and running as a somewhat serviceable political party as early as 2096."

                                According to the political strategist Tracy Klugian, however, Logsdon's 2096 target date for the Republicans' comeback is "laughably upbeat."

                                "In order for the G.O.P. to become even a marginally functional political party again, all memory of the 2016 campaign will have to be obliterated," Klugian said. "That means everyone who witnessed it will have to be dead, and probably those people’s children, and their children's children, too. I wouldn't bet on the Republican Party recovering any earlier than the year 2132."

                                When asked about Klugian's assessment, Logsdon said, "Yeah, 2132 is probably more like it."

                                This kind of simple minded, hate inspired bull shit is one of the things that drives he anger being expressed by the Right. The guy that wrote it needs his ass kicked, and you need your ass kicked for repeating it.

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                                  @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                  the side who believes this election was stolen feels

                                  Too much "believes" and "feels" - we have laws for a reason.

                                  Once feels > laws - then, I agree, we have a whole whack of new problems.

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                                  @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                  @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                  the side who believes this election was stolen feels

                                  Too much "believes" and "feels" - we have laws for a reason.

                                  Once feels > laws - then, I agree, we have a whole whack of new problems.

                                  For longer than you've been alive your side has based it's entire worldview on "believing" and "feeling". You just jumped the shark.

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                                  • LarryL Larry

                                    @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                    @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                    the side who believes this election was stolen feels

                                    Too much "believes" and "feels" - we have laws for a reason.

                                    Once feels > laws - then, I agree, we have a whole whack of new problems.

                                    For longer than you've been alive your side has based it's entire worldview on "believing" and "feeling". You just jumped the shark.

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                                    @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                    @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                    @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                    the side who believes this election was stolen feels

                                    Too much "believes" and "feels" - we have laws for a reason.

                                    Once feels > laws - then, I agree, we have a whole whack of new problems.

                                    For longer than you've been alive your side has based it's entire worldview on "believing" and "feeling". You just jumped the shark.

                                    Who are you talking to? You quoted my post.

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                                      @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                      @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                      @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                      the side who believes this election was stolen feels

                                      Too much "believes" and "feels" - we have laws for a reason.

                                      Once feels > laws - then, I agree, we have a whole whack of new problems.

                                      For longer than you've been alive your side has based it's entire worldview on "believing" and "feeling". You just jumped the shark.

                                      Who are you talking to? You quoted my post.

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                                      @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                      @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                      @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                      @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                      the side who believes this election was stolen feels

                                      Too much "believes" and "feels" - we have laws for a reason.

                                      Once feels > laws - then, I agree, we have a whole whack of new problems.

                                      For longer than you've been alive your side has based it's entire worldview on "believing" and "feeling". You just jumped the shark.

                                      Who are you talking to? You quoted my post.

                                      It should be obvious that I'm talking to you.

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                                      • LarryL Larry

                                        @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                        @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                        @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                        @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                        the side who believes this election was stolen feels

                                        Too much "believes" and "feels" - we have laws for a reason.

                                        Once feels > laws - then, I agree, we have a whole whack of new problems.

                                        For longer than you've been alive your side has based it's entire worldview on "believing" and "feeling". You just jumped the shark.

                                        Who are you talking to? You quoted my post.

                                        It should be obvious that I'm talking to you.

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                                        xenon
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                                        @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                        @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                        @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                        @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                        @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                        the side who believes this election was stolen feels

                                        Too much "believes" and "feels" - we have laws for a reason.

                                        Once feels > laws - then, I agree, we have a whole whack of new problems.

                                        For longer than you've been alive your side has based it's entire worldview on "believing" and "feeling". You just jumped the shark.

                                        Who are you talking to? You quoted my post.

                                        It should be obvious that I'm talking to you.

                                        So, longer than I was alive (and born and raised in Canada) - the democrats, I presume, are my side and have been doing things? That's what you're saying?

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