“There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated."
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@loki said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":
Yeah there is a ton to see here in terms of desperation with no chance of success and only downside which is on tape. Unflattering would be an understatement.
@Loki, you see or hear anything legally questionable or ethically concerning in there?
wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 22:06 last edited by@axtremus said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":
@loki said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":
Yeah there is a ton to see here in terms of desperation with no chance of success and only downside which is on tape. Unflattering would be an understatement.
@Loki, you see or hear anything legally questionable or ethically concerning in there?
Yup. Wasn’t sure if there was the potential for a crime but I also only read the snippet and didn’t see the entire conversation so I would wait for more context. Even so, it is at best inappropriate but worse, stupid.
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wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 22:17 last edited by
I'm so old that I remember when the press was outraged that private communication was leaked, it seems like, what, 10 weeks?
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wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 22:47 last edited by
It's from the Washington Post, one of the most dishonest media outlets in the country, with a history of taking things out of context and spinning it to turn things into the worst possible thing they can. One has to be an utter fool to trust anything they read from them.
What I hear is the president offering the Georgia Secretary of State the chance to do the right thing.
And if you think there was no fraud in Georgia's election, youre nuts.
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It's from the Washington Post, one of the most dishonest media outlets in the country, with a history of taking things out of context and spinning it to turn things into the worst possible thing they can. One has to be an utter fool to trust anything they read from them.
What I hear is the president offering the Georgia Secretary of State the chance to do the right thing.
And if you think there was no fraud in Georgia's election, youre nuts.
wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 22:52 last edited byIt’s come to the point where we the people are not even shocked by these latest shenanigans. This man is performing acts of sedition trying to buy an election that he lost. His future is grim. Really grim. Teflon Don is running out of chits.
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wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 22:53 last edited by
It's all really quite telling, actually - if you Trump haters actually believed the shit you shovel you wouldn't feel such a need to keep trying to convince people that Biden won. Every one of the Trump haters have their asses puckered so tight they could crack walnuts in their ass hole, scared shitless that today might be the day their little "Biden won" bull shit falls apart.
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wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 23:10 last edited by
WOW!!!! That is just crazy (and disappointing).
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wrote on 4 Jan 2021, 00:04 last edited by
Yeah, he is an imbecile, and an avatar of those who came before him. I really don't think it's different. Maybe I'm a nihilist.
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wrote on 4 Jan 2021, 01:30 last edited by
This is so mind boggling horrible, even for Trump’s standards. Normally this would be the political scandal of the decade of not century! But he has watered down the expectations of the office so much that this won’t really matter. Plus folks know he lost (by more than a landslide) so for many this is just one more scandal as he leaves.
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Yeah, he is an imbecile, and an avatar of those who came before him. I really don't think it's different. Maybe I'm a nihilist.
wrote on 4 Jan 2021, 01:30 last edited by@horace said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":
Maybe I'm a nihilist.
Welcome to the club. We never have meetings.
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This is so mind boggling horrible, even for Trump’s standards. Normally this would be the political scandal of the decade of not century! But he has watered down the expectations of the office so much that this won’t really matter. Plus folks know he lost (by more than a landslide) so for many this is just one more scandal as he leaves.
wrote on 4 Jan 2021, 04:18 last edited by@89th said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":
This is so mind boggling horrible, even for Trump’s standards. Normally this would be the political scandal of the decade of not century! But he has watered down the expectations of the office so much that this won’t really matter. Plus folks know he lost (by more than a landslide) so for many this is just one more scandal as he leaves.
Keep saying it and eventually you might come to believe it. No one else will, but if it makes your head feel better as it rests in your ass, that's ood.
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@89th said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":
This is so mind boggling horrible, even for Trump’s standards. Normally this would be the political scandal of the decade of not century! But he has watered down the expectations of the office so much that this won’t really matter. Plus folks know he lost (by more than a landslide) so for many this is just one more scandal as he leaves.
Keep saying it and eventually you might come to believe it. No one else will, but if it makes your head feel better as it rests in your ass, that's ood.
wrote on 4 Jan 2021, 04:42 last edited by@larry said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":
@89th said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":
This is so mind boggling horrible, even for Trump’s standards. Normally this would be the political scandal of the decade of not century! But he has watered down the expectations of the office so much that this won’t really matter. Plus folks know he lost (by more than a landslide) so for many this is just one more scandal as he leaves.
Keep saying it and eventually you might come to believe it. No one else will, but if it makes your head feel better as it rests in your ass, that's ood.
Keep saying what? Everything I said it accurate. The irony is it’s you and the president who keep repeating the same lies and unsubstantiated rumors over and over hoping it’ll make it real.
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@larry said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":
@89th said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":
This is so mind boggling horrible, even for Trump’s standards. Normally this would be the political scandal of the decade of not century! But he has watered down the expectations of the office so much that this won’t really matter. Plus folks know he lost (by more than a landslide) so for many this is just one more scandal as he leaves.
Keep saying it and eventually you might come to believe it. No one else will, but if it makes your head feel better as it rests in your ass, that's ood.
Keep saying what? Everything I said it accurate. The irony is it’s you and the president who keep repeating the same lies and unsubstantiated rumors over and over hoping it’ll make it real.
wrote on 4 Jan 2021, 04:43 last edited by@89th said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":
@larry said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":
@89th said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":
This is so mind boggling horrible, even for Trump’s standards. Normally this would be the political scandal of the decade of not century! But he has watered down the expectations of the office so much that this won’t really matter. Plus folks know he lost (by more than a landslide) so for many this is just one more scandal as he leaves.
Keep saying it and eventually you might come to believe it. No one else will, but if it makes your head feel better as it rests in your ass, that's ood.
Keep saying what? Everything I said it accurate. The irony is it’s you and the president who keep repeating the same lies and unsubstantiated rumors over and over hoping it’ll make it real.
You've yet to say a thing that is accurate.
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@89th said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":
@larry said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":
@89th said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":
This is so mind boggling horrible, even for Trump’s standards. Normally this would be the political scandal of the decade of not century! But he has watered down the expectations of the office so much that this won’t really matter. Plus folks know he lost (by more than a landslide) so for many this is just one more scandal as he leaves.
Keep saying it and eventually you might come to believe it. No one else will, but if it makes your head feel better as it rests in your ass, that's ood.
Keep saying what? Everything I said it accurate. The irony is it’s you and the president who keep repeating the same lies and unsubstantiated rumors over and over hoping it’ll make it real.
You've yet to say a thing that is accurate.
wrote on 4 Jan 2021, 12:25 last edited by@larry said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":
You've yet to say a thing that is accurate.
Well, @Larry , the challenge that you have is the data you have is wrong.
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@larry said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":
You've yet to say a thing that is accurate.
Well, @Larry , the challenge that you have is the data you have is wrong.
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wrote on 4 Jan 2021, 12:59 last edited by
Did all 18,000 votes really go to Biden?
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This is so mind boggling horrible, even for Trump’s standards. Normally this would be the political scandal of the decade of not century! But he has watered down the expectations of the office so much that this won’t really matter. Plus folks know he lost (by more than a landslide) so for many this is just one more scandal as he leaves.
wrote on 4 Jan 2021, 13:10 last edited by Catseye3 1 Apr 2021, 13:55@89th said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":
Normally this would be the political scandal of the decade of not century!
Aw, c'mon, 89th, don't exaggerate. This isn't the first time Trump has used the phone to pressure a higher-up to do his bidding. At least he didn't offer military aid to Georgia.
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@larry said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":
You've yet to say a thing that is accurate.
Well, @Larry , the challenge that you have is the data you have is wrong.
wrote on 4 Jan 2021, 13:54 last edited by@89th said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":
@larry said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":
You've yet to say a thing that is accurate.
Well, @Larry , the challenge that you have is the data you have is wrong.
No, the data YOU have is wrong.
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wrote on 4 Jan 2021, 14:22 last edited by
After I listened to the full hour last night, one thing that struck me was everyone on the Secretary’s side of the call I think I understood the magnitude of the call from a historical and legal perspective, and were careful about what they would say, whereas everyone on Trump’s side of the call seemed to treat it like just another Saturday night casual call.
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After I listened to the full hour last night, one thing that struck me was everyone on the Secretary’s side of the call I think I understood the magnitude of the call from a historical and legal perspective, and were careful about what they would say, whereas everyone on Trump’s side of the call seemed to treat it like just another Saturday night casual call.
wrote on 4 Jan 2021, 14:28 last edited by@89th said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":
After I listened to the full hour last night, one thing that struck me was everyone on the Secretary’s side of the call I think I understood the magnitude of the call from a historical and legal perspective, and were careful about what they would say, whereas everyone on Trump’s side of the call seemed to treat it like just another Saturday night casual call.
You do realize that what you were hearing was negotiations in an attempt to settle a lawsuit, dont you? Perhaps it also escaped your attention that such conversations always involve back and forth negotiations, and are by law private and covered by attorney/client priviledge, and the real problem here is the crime committed by leaking it, which was done so the gullible sheep like you would jump in with your typical responses?
Nah. None of that occurred to you because by God you know everything already.
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wrote on 4 Jan 2021, 14:50 last edited by
April Ryan (D-CNN):
Also April Ryan:
