Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election

Larry

@nunatax said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

@larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

But don't bother looking it up. ...

Maybe you can tell us why anyone should still bother looking up anything you post about? People here, including myself, have put time and effort into looking at the details of some of the election fraud stuff you post about. But when it's pointed out to you that the evidence behind it is practically worthless, you go silent on it.
And the two things I looked at had remarkable weaknesses that were so obvious, that I wonder if you ever really look into the cases you post. It seems like if something fits your election fraud narrative, it's automatically something you consider a fact.

I don't really give a fuck what you think.

jon-nyc

Good on you for taking him in good faith, Nunatax, but at some point you just have to accept him as TNCR's Crazy Uncle Larry and move on.

Larry

@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

Good on you for taking him in good faith, Nunatax, but at some point you just have to accept him as TNCR's Crazy Uncle Larry and move on.

That's ok. The day is going to come that you will have no choice but to admit you should have paid attention. By the time you figure it out though, it will be too late.

Nunatax

@larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

@nunatax said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

@larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

But don't bother looking it up. ...

Maybe you can tell us why anyone should still bother looking up anything you post about? People here, including myself, have put time and effort into looking at the details of some of the election fraud stuff you post about. But when it's pointed out to you that the evidence behind it is practically worthless, you go silent on it.
And the two things I looked at had remarkable weaknesses that were so obvious, that I wonder if you ever really look into the cases you post. It seems like if something fits your election fraud narrative, it's automatically something you consider a fact.

I don't really give a fuck what you think.

That’s fine, and also not surprising. You seem to have stopped caring about “thinking” the second Biden overtook Trump in electoral votes.

Nunatax

@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

Good on you for taking him in good faith, Nunatax, but at some point you just have to accept him as TNCR's Crazy Uncle Larry and move on.

I guess you’re right. Lately I’ve been wondering if Cosmored hijacked Larry’s account. Cosmored didn’t swear as much, though

Larry

@nunatax said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

Good on you for taking him in good faith, Nunatax, but at some point you just have to accept him as TNCR's Crazy Uncle Larry and move on.

I guess you’re right. Lately I’ve been wondering if Cosmored hijacked Larry’s account. Cosmored didn’t swear as much, though

Isn't that cute... all the little "Russia Russia Russia" conspiracy theorists who made fun of me when I told them they'd fallen for a hoax are calling me a conspiracy theorist! Given how wrong you've been on so many things for so many years yet remained totally convinced of your intellectual superiority, I feel honored.

Nunatax

@larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

@nunatax said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

Good on you for taking him in good faith, Nunatax, but at some point you just have to accept him as TNCR's Crazy Uncle Larry and move on.

I guess you’re right. Lately I’ve been wondering if Cosmored hijacked Larry’s account. Cosmored didn’t swear as much, though

Isn't that cute... all the little "Russia Russia Russia" conspiracy theorists who made fun of me when I told them they'd fallen for a hoax are calling me a conspiracy theorist! Given how wrong you've been on so many things for so many years yet remained totally convinced of your intellectual superiority, I feel honored.

Very cute indeed, as I never said anything about that Russia stuff.

Klaus

@nunatax said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

@larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

@nunatax said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

Good on you for taking him in good faith, Nunatax, but at some point you just have to accept him as TNCR's Crazy Uncle Larry and move on.

I guess you’re right. Lately I’ve been wondering if Cosmored hijacked Larry’s account. Cosmored didn’t swear as much, though

Isn't that cute... all the little "Russia Russia Russia" conspiracy theorists who made fun of me when I told them they'd fallen for a hoax are calling me a conspiracy theorist! Given how wrong you've been on so many things for so many years yet remained totally convinced of your intellectual superiority, I feel honored.

Very cute indeed, as I never said anything about that Russia stuff.

When Larry says "you" and then goes on to rant about "liberals", he usually refers to some unspecified fantasy straw-man he made up, so don't worry; it's not about you.

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He’s a bonafide nut job. Scary thing is , there are millions more of them in this country.

Larry

@nobodyssock said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

He’s a bonafide nut job. Scary thing is , there are millions more of them in this country.

Classic projection, often used by psychopaths.

Mik

Larry is who he is, unapologetically. He has been absolutely consistent through the 15+ years I have known him. He's not in any way shape or form a nutcase.

It is not good to think that anyone who comes to different conclusions than you do is crazy. They may be right or they may prove wrong but that remains to be seen.

As has been pointed out, no president in our lifetimes has ever faced the tsunami of lies, machinations and misrepresentations as Trump has over the last four years. It is hardly crazy to believe the democrats who have been behind these efforts would cheat if they could.

Larry

@mik said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

Larry is who he is, unapologetically. He has been absolutely consistent through the 15+ years I have known him. He's not in any way shape or form a nutcase.

It is not good to think that anyone who comes to different conclusions than you do is crazy. They may be right or they may prove wrong but that remains to be seen.

As has been pointed out, no president in our lifetimes has ever faced the tsunami of lies, machinations and misrepresentations as Trump has over the last four years. It is hardly crazy to believe the democrats who have been behind these efforts would cheat if they could.

Thank you, kind sir.

89th

@mik said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

Larry is who he is, unapologetically. He has been absolutely consistent through the 15+ years I have known him. He's not in any way shape or form a nutcase.

I agree with this. This place wouldn’t be the same without @Larry , he’s not a nutcase, and is someone I’d always like to grab a beer with. He is, however, so incredibly detached from reality (the way Trump is) about this election that he’s lost a ton of credibility in my book, not that he cares.

Larry

@89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

@mik said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

Larry is who he is, unapologetically. He has been absolutely consistent through the 15+ years I have known him. He's not in any way shape or form a nutcase.

I agree with this. This place wouldn’t be the same without @Larry , he’s not a nutcase, and is someone I’d always like to grab a beer with. He is, however, so incredibly detached from reality (the way Trump is) about this election that he’s lost a ton of credibility in my book, not that he cares.

You're right, I don't care. You see, the one detached from reality is you, not me.

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Naw,, He’s a nut job. A consistent one. I couldn’t sit still long enough to have a beer with him because he’s an asshole to boot. And similar to trump, he has become some golden calf for many of you because he speaks out loud things that also reside in your hearts.

Nunatax

@mik said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

Larry is who he is, unapologetically. He has been absolutely consistent through the 15+ years I have known him. He's not in any way shape or form a nutcase.

It is not good to think that anyone who comes to different conclusions than you do is crazy. They may be right or they may prove wrong but that remains to be seen.

Haha, is that how you see this? Disagree with Larry, and he says:

you're "uninformed",
you remind him of the old saying "Some people have 20 years worth of experience. Some have 1 year of experience 20 times.",
you haven't learned how to think rationally,
you haven't taken the time to study the situation,
you're shoving your head up your ass,
you're disingenuous and closed minded,
you're intellectually dishonest,
you have no integrity,
you're simply repeating the media spin,
he doesn't give a fuck what you think...

This comes from this thread only, took less than 2 minutes to extract it. Want more? Just open a few other threads here.

Most of this was directed at Xenon, who is one of the posters here who shows a lot of patience and restraint when it comes to trying to have a rational discussion with Larry.

That's fine though, most of us have come to know Larry over the years and no longer care about the shit he throws at your head when you dare to disagree with him.

But no, it's not because he comes to a different conclusion that some say he is going a little crazy over this election fraud stuff. If that were all it took, I for one would have called him crazy a long time ago...

As has been pointed out, no president in our lifetimes has ever faced the tsunami of lies, machinations and misrepresentations as Trump has over the last four years. It is hardly crazy to believe the democrats who have been behind these efforts would cheat if they could.

That in itself is not crazy. I'd go further than that and say that it's not crazy to think it could potentially happen at a scale that could really have an impact on an election (same goes for the Republicans). Politics is a dirty game, always has been. Regardless, that it would have happened at a scale leading to a stolen election is still an extraordinary claim, and as someone once rightly said: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

There is some stuff out there that - if true - could at least be a part of such extraordinary evidence. If a truck driver drove 288.000 completed ballots from New York to PA... Well, if that doesn't make you raise an eyebrow, what would? If according to a statistician's findings the chance that Biden won GA, MI, PA and WI the way he did is only "one in a quadrillion", that's worth looking into, right?

So some of us looked into it (the raw materials, not the media's interpretation) and found that the statistics and/or evidence behind those claims don't hold up under even a limited amount of scrutiny. None of that means Larry is somehow crazy for initially posting them. To me it just shows he never really looked at what's behind these claims but instead just eagerly took and reposted them as facts because they support the election fraud narrative and especially because of their potentially high impact. I have no problem with that either. I also don't have a problem with the fact that Larry then went completely silent on the truck driver case and the quadrillion statistic. That shows to me he eventually did take a closer look at those cases and came to the same conclusion. But when you're posting such stuff without properly scrutinizing it, it makes you look a bit silly when accusing the others in the discussion of not taking the time to study the situation, being closed-minded, etc. And when, despite the evidence for massive fraud falling short repeatedly, you keep shouting "BIDEN DID NOT WIN THE ELECTION" whenever someone suggests that he did, that's making you look a bit crazy after a while.

taiwan_girl

@nunatax said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

. If a truck driver drove 288.000 completed ballots from New York to PA... Well, if that doesn't make you raise an eyebrow, what would?

I actually read the affidavit. The truck driver when asked about how many ballots there were says something like, “it could have been 750 or even 2500, I’m not sure”

But then again, he is a drug addict with mental problems, and even according to his mom, he needs some help.

Larry

@nunatax said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

@mik said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

Larry is who he is, unapologetically. He has been absolutely consistent through the 15+ years I have known him. He's not in any way shape or form a nutcase.

It is not good to think that anyone who comes to different conclusions than you do is crazy. They may be right or they may prove wrong but that remains to be seen.

Haha, is that how you see this? Disagree with Larry, and he says:

you're "uninformed",

you remind him of the old saying "Some people have 20 years worth of experience. Some have 1 year of experience 20 times.",

you haven't learned how to think rationally,

you haven't taken the time to study the situation,

you're shoving your head up your ass,

you're disingenuous and closed minded,

you're intellectually dishonest,

you have no integrity,

you're simply repeating the media spin,

he doesn't give a fuck what you think...

This comes from this thread only, took less than 2 minutes to extract it. Want more? Just open a few other threads here.

Most of this was directed at Xenon, who is one of the posters here who shows a lot of patience and restraint when it comes to trying to have a rational discussion with Larry.

That's fine though, most of us have come to know Larry over the years and no longer care about the shit he throws at your head when you dare to disagree with him.

But no, it's not because he comes to a different conclusion that some say he is going a little crazy over this election fraud stuff. If that were all it took, I for one would have called him crazy a long time ago...

As has been pointed out, no president in our lifetimes has ever faced the tsunami of lies, machinations and misrepresentations as Trump has over the last four years. It is hardly crazy to believe the democrats who have been behind these efforts would cheat if they could.

That in itself is not crazy. I'd go further than that and say that it's not crazy to think it could potentially happen at a scale that could really have an impact on an election (same goes for the Republicans). Politics is a dirty game, always has been. Regardless, that it would have happened at a scale leading to a stolen election is still an extraordinary claim, and as someone once rightly said: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

There is some stuff out there that - if true - could at least be a part of such extraordinary evidence. If a truck driver drove 288.000 completed ballots from New York to PA... Well, if that doesn't make you raise an eyebrow, what would? If according to a statistician's findings the chance that Biden won GA, MI, PA and WI the way he did is only "one in a quadrillion", that's worth looking into, right?

So some of us looked into it (the raw materials, not the media's interpretation) and found that the statistics and/or evidence behind those claims don't hold up under even a limited amount of scrutiny. None of that means Larry is somehow crazy for initially posting them. To me it just shows he never really looked at what's behind these claims but instead just eagerly took and reposted them as facts because they support the election fraud narrative and especially because of their potentially high impact. I have no problem with that either. I also don't have a problem with the fact that Larry then went completely silent on the truck driver case and the quadrillion statistic. That shows to me he eventually did take a closer look at those cases and came to the same conclusion. But when you're posting such stuff without properly scrutinizing it, it makes you look a bit silly when accusing the others in the discussion of not taking the time to study the situation, being closed-minded, etc. And when, despite the evidence for massive fraud falling short repeatedly, you keep shouting "BIDEN DID NOT WIN THE ELECTION" whenever someone suggests that he did, that's making you look a bit crazy after a while.

I just love it when a guy shows me what he's made of. Never mind his "logic" and his conclusions. He's convinced he has superior thinking skills, and like every other guy like him, you'll never change that he will have to grow up more and figure that out for himself. I'm talking about the reaction. I know his type. Nothing thrills me more than to watch his type have a melt down like that. And eventually, guys of his type ALWAYS have a melt down.

From a safe distance, of course.....

Go for it, son - gnaw on your panties some more.

Larry

@taiwan_girl said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

@nunatax said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

. If a truck driver drove 288.000 completed ballots from New York to PA... Well, if that doesn't make you raise an eyebrow, what would?

I actually read the affidavit. The truck driver when asked about how many ballots there were says something like, “it could have been 750 or even 2500, I’m not sure”

But then again, he is a drug addict with mental problems, and even according to his mom, he needs some help.

Let's not nitpick one little example for a moment and entertain this question :

If half the country believes the election was stolen, do you take the time to investigate it and correct the errors that are found so that half of the country can feel trust in the election process again, or do you roll over the top of them, call them names and tell them to just accept it and move on?

Klaus

@mik said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

He has been absolutely consistent through the 15+ years I have known him. He's not in any way shape or form a nutcase.
It is not good to think that anyone who comes to different conclusions than you do is crazy. They may be right or they may prove wrong but that remains to be seen.

What kind of argument is that? Being consistent doesn't mean that somebody is not a nutcase. Stalin was consistent.

Also, nobody has suggested that anyone who "comes to different conclusions" is crazy. But it is perfectly valid to designate some of those who come to different conclusions as crazy, such as those who are so deranged by confirmation bias that they promote ludicrous conspiracy theories.

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Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election