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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @xenon said in Trump, The Illuminator:

    Trump has been very illuminating.

    I think for different reasons than outlined in this article.

    The best part about him is that he’s completely disinterested in the design of our democracy. He starts from the premise that he has good intentions and should be able to do what he needs to do.

    All the checks and balances are bullshit to him.

    In acting this way he has exposed parts of our political frameworks that have turned out to be over-intellectualized bullshit. I’ve learned a lot about things that are law vs. just norms.

    Don't think so. Trump understands the checks and balances. He understands the diminished role of Congress and the enhanced role of the courts. He didn't create that. He's just trying to exploit it for leverage.

    He uses every legal tactic to achieve his desired ends. But when ruled against, he quits or tries a different course.

    And unlike a typical politician like Biden, he usually tells you exactly what he is going to do, before he does it.

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    xenon
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    @jolly the only durable things he’s done have been through congress. Everything else can be undone at the end of this month.

    I think Obama explicitly said to Trump that it was a failure of his to rely too much on exec orders.

    If Congress is diminished - too bad. Our system is built on Congress being functional. The idea that the executive can pick up the slack is harmful.

    The judges he chose are also durable. But that seems like it was more to broaden his political support. He doesn’t seem to really want originalists. He really wants activist Trumpists (equal, but opposite of liberal judges)

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    • M Moonbat

      @copper said in Trump, The Illuminator:

      @xenon said in Trump, The Illuminator:

      He starts from the premise that he has good intentions and should be able to do what he needs to do.

      Why make up something like this?

      Do you think that he starts from the premise that he has bad intentions and should be prevented from doing what he needs to do?

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      • M Moonbat

        @copper said in Trump, The Illuminator:

        @xenon said in Trump, The Illuminator:

        He starts from the premise that he has good intentions and should be able to do what he needs to do.

        Why make up something like this?

        Do you think that he starts from the premise that he has bad intentions and should be prevented from doing what he needs to do?

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        Copper
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        @moonbat said in Trump, The Illuminator:

        @copper said in Trump, The Illuminator:

        @xenon said in Trump, The Illuminator:

        He starts from the premise that he has good intentions and should be able to do what he needs to do.

        Why make up something like this?

        Do you think that he starts from the premise that he has bad intentions and should be prevented from doing what he needs to do?

        Why make up something like this?

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        • CopperC Copper

          @moonbat said in Trump, The Illuminator:

          @copper said in Trump, The Illuminator:

          @xenon said in Trump, The Illuminator:

          He starts from the premise that he has good intentions and should be able to do what he needs to do.

          Why make up something like this?

          Do you think that he starts from the premise that he has bad intentions and should be prevented from doing what he needs to do?

          Why make up something like this?

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          xenon
          wrote on last edited by
          #10

          @copper it’s easier to be a pedant (especially a poor one) than actually share your opinion on something.

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          • CopperC Copper

            @moonbat said in Trump, The Illuminator:

            @copper said in Trump, The Illuminator:

            @xenon said in Trump, The Illuminator:

            He starts from the premise that he has good intentions and should be able to do what he needs to do.

            Why make up something like this?

            Do you think that he starts from the premise that he has bad intentions and should be prevented from doing what he needs to do?

            Why make up something like this?

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            Moonbat
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            @copper said in Trump, The Illuminator:

            @moonbat said in Trump, The Illuminator:

            @copper said in Trump, The Illuminator:

            @xenon said in Trump, The Illuminator:

            He starts from the premise that he has good intentions and should be able to do what he needs to do.

            Why make up something like this?

            Do you think that he starts from the premise that he has bad intentions and should be prevented from doing what he needs to do?

            Why make up something like this?

            Are you aware that you have not quoted an assertion?

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            • X xenon

              @copper it’s easier to be a pedant (especially a poor one) than actually share your opinion on something.

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              Copper
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              @xenon said in Trump, The Illuminator:

              @copper it’s easier to be a pedant (especially a poor one) than actually share your opinion on something.

              Insults are pretty useless around here.

              My opinion is that you are making up stuff that is obviously
              nonsense.

              I'm just wondering why.

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              • M Moonbat

                @copper said in Trump, The Illuminator:

                @moonbat said in Trump, The Illuminator:

                @copper said in Trump, The Illuminator:

                @xenon said in Trump, The Illuminator:

                He starts from the premise that he has good intentions and should be able to do what he needs to do.

                Why make up something like this?

                Do you think that he starts from the premise that he has bad intentions and should be prevented from doing what he needs to do?

                Why make up something like this?

                Are you aware that you have not quoted an assertion?

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                Copper
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                @moonbat said in Trump, The Illuminator:

                @copper said in Trump, The Illuminator:

                @moonbat said in Trump, The Illuminator:

                @copper said in Trump, The Illuminator:

                @xenon said in Trump, The Illuminator:

                He starts from the premise that he has good intentions and should be able to do what he needs to do.

                Why make up something like this?

                Do you think that he starts from the premise that he has bad intentions and should be prevented from doing what he needs to do?

                Why make up something like this?

                Are you aware that you have not quoted an assertion?

                Yes

                It was not my intent to quote an assertion

                My intent was to question why you made up your question

                Are you aware that you have quoted my question?

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                • CopperC Copper

                  @moonbat said in Trump, The Illuminator:

                  @copper said in Trump, The Illuminator:

                  @moonbat said in Trump, The Illuminator:

                  @copper said in Trump, The Illuminator:

                  @xenon said in Trump, The Illuminator:

                  He starts from the premise that he has good intentions and should be able to do what he needs to do.

                  Why make up something like this?

                  Do you think that he starts from the premise that he has bad intentions and should be prevented from doing what he needs to do?

                  Why make up something like this?

                  Are you aware that you have not quoted an assertion?

                  Yes

                  It was not my intent to quote an assertion

                  My intent was to question why you made up your question

                  Are you aware that you have quoted my question?

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                  Moonbat
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                  @copper said in Trump, The Illuminator:

                  My intent was to question why you made up your question

                  Sorry didn't realise English was not your first language. The word you are looking for is asked

                  And the answer is... Well I'm not sure, curiosity I suppose.

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                    The reason he's so illuminating is because the sun shines out of his arse.

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      The reason he's so illuminating is because the sun shines out of his arse.

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                      Jolly
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                      @doctor-phibes said in Trump, The Illuminator:

                      The reason he's so illuminating is because the sun shines out of his arse.

                      Well, if you think so...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • AxtremusA Away
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                        Axtremus
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                        Trump has illuminated that the Republicans have no problem with budget deficits or executive overreach or double taxation, and “character” really does not matter to many who claim to be “Conservatives.”

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          Trump has illuminated that the Republicans have no problem with budget deficits or executive overreach or double taxation, and “character” really does not matter to many who claim to be “Conservatives.”

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                          Jolly
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                          @axtremus said in Trump, The Illuminator:

                          Trump has illuminated that the Republicans have no problem with budget deficits or executive overreach or double taxation, and “character” really does not matter to many who claim to be “Conservatives.”

                          As dependable as the morning sun, you are.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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