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Do I really need a UPS?

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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    When I say 'lost motherboard', the PC was completely unusable. The HDD wasn't damaged, but it fried something on the main board.

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    @Doctor-Phibes said in Do I really need a UPS?:

    When I say 'lost motherboard', the PC was completely unusable. The HDD wasn't damaged, but it fried something on the main board.

    Wouldn't a surge protector accomplish the same thing?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      If it's just a battery issue, what does the battery cost?

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        If it's just a battery issue, what does the battery cost?

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        @Jolly said in Do I really need a UPS?:

        If it's just a battery issue, what does the battery cost?

        About $80. But, I'm not 100% sure it's that. Like I said, it's an old unit (>8 years).

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          You don't necessarily need a UPS, but wouldn't be a bad idea to at least have a surge protector. Another step up is a voltage regulator and something that smooths out "noisy" power sources. Surge protection aside, I am not familiar with consumer electronics that offer those two other functions independently, but good UPS units typically have all those built in.

          I have a setup where I have a laser printer hooked up to the same circuit as a desktop/server computer along with a UPS. Every time I "wake" the laser printer up, it draws enough power that it would trigger the UPS. In that case, the UPS protects my desktop/server from the transient power irregularities caused by the laser printer waking up, and avoid a needless restart for the desktop/server machine. (And yes, @mark , I use CyberPower units for the more important stuff; though I still have older/smaller APC units in service as well.)

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            A small UPS is not that expensive. All you need is surge protection and just a few minutes run time.

            I think it's cheap insurance.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              #15

              You need power conditioning and very good ($$$) power conditioning to prevent that. Lightning is very hard to stop and very expensive. Most good UPS have better power conditioning than a typical "surge protector". A surge usually occurs when something in the power chain unexpectedly puts excessive load on the power supply.

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                I've never had a UPS and never had a problem. But we also have latop computers used in different areas of the house. Just good quality surge suppressors. If I were going to invest in something on that order I'd likely go for a whole house generator.

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                  Very few companies and even fewer private persons need a UPS.

                  Today's servers and file systems in general cope well with sudden power losses. If one has valuable data, a backup is more than sufficient for almost all situations.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Do I really need a UPS?:

                    When I say 'lost motherboard', the PC was completely unusable. The HDD wasn't damaged, but it fried something on the main board.

                    Wouldn't a surge protector accomplish the same thing?

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                    @George-K said in Do I really need a UPS?:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Do I really need a UPS?:

                    When I say 'lost motherboard', the PC was completely unusable. The HDD wasn't damaged, but it fried something on the main board.

                    Wouldn't a surge protector accomplish the same thing?

                    We had surge protectors on both PC's, based on that theory. I wasn't convinced they'd done what they were supposed to do. It's possible it wasn't a surge, but I figure for the sake of $100, what the heck.

                    However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results 🤓

                    (We use Cyberpower UPS's)

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      When I say 'lost motherboard', the PC was completely unusable. The HDD wasn't damaged, but it fried something on the main board.

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                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Do I really need a UPS?:

                      When I say 'lost motherboard', the PC was completely unusable. The HDD wasn't damaged, but it fried something on the main board.

                      Buy a Mac, bitch.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        @jon-nyc said in Do I really need a UPS?:

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Do I really need a UPS?:

                        When I say 'lost motherboard', the PC was completely unusable. The HDD wasn't damaged, but it fried something on the main board.

                        Buy a Mac, bitch.

                        That's like telling somebody who was raped by a priest to join the scientologists.

                        I was only joking

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                          All that has been said on this is irrelevant.

                          When buying anything, look for the most colored, blinking lights. Lots of LED's that blink with importance. Steady blue with a nearby blinking yellow, plus a handful of green, just ooze importance. Nothing is more dissatisfying than a computer gadget with only one, or no, lights. It's like disappointment in a box.

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                            He's a Mac user. They prefer the flashing lights to be in the non-visible spectrum.

                            I was only joking

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