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  • RainmanR Offline
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    Rainman
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    @taiwan_girl said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

    Example, someone can say they believe in a God, but then go rob a bank.

    Depends. Successfully?

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    • RainmanR Rainman

      @taiwan_girl said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

      Example, someone can say they believe in a God, but then go rob a bank.

      Depends. Successfully?

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      #6

      @rainman 😂😂

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      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

        Just seems that that term comes up a lot.

        “He is a very religious person.” For example.

        I think in common conversation using, it seems like it has applied more to if you believe in a God, rather than your actions.

        More just a curious question.

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        @taiwan_girl said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

        Just seems that that term comes up a lot.

        “He is a very religious person.” For example.

        I think in common conversation using, it seems like it has applied more to if you believe in a God, rather than your actions.

        More just a curious question.

        I’d say it’s someone who sincerely believes in their religion as opposed to someone who just loosely associates with a religion in name only. If that makes sense?

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @taiwan_girl said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

          Is it more actions, (the way you conduct yourself), or is it something you believe in.?

          If those two are separate things, you're just bullshitting.

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          Klaus
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          @aqua-letifer said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

          @taiwan_girl said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

          Is it more actions, (the way you conduct yourself), or is it something you believe in.?

          If those two are separate things, you're just bullshitting.

          Hu?

          It’s one of the main differences between Judaism and Christianity. For Jews, actions are more important than belief. For Christianity, it’s the other way around.

          Many bookshelves full of books have been written about the difference. How can you say they are the same? Of course these are fundamentally separate things. They can coincide, but not necessarily so.

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            With regard to @taiwan_girl 's original question:

            I guess in practice it is a question that is self-professed. One cannot really define such things precisely.

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            • KlausK Klaus

              With regard to @taiwan_girl 's original question:

              I guess in practice it is a question that is self-professed. One cannot really define such things precisely.

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              Doctor Phibes
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              @klaus said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

              With regard to @taiwan_girl 's original question:

              I guess in practice it is a question that is self-professed. One cannot really define such things precisely.

              Apostate!

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @klaus said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

                With regard to @taiwan_girl 's original question:

                I guess in practice it is a question that is self-professed. One cannot really define such things precisely.

                Apostate!

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                Copper
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                The definition is probably more about the person doing the defining than the person being defined.

                For the new left a religious person is one thing.

                For the old left it is something else.

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                • 89th8 89th

                  @taiwan_girl said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

                  Just seems that that term comes up a lot.

                  “He is a very religious person.” For example.

                  I think in common conversation using, it seems like it has applied more to if you believe in a God, rather than your actions.

                  More just a curious question.

                  I’d say it’s someone who sincerely believes in their religion as opposed to someone who just loosely associates with a religion in name only. If that makes sense?

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                  @89th said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

                  I’d say it’s someone who sincerely believes in their religion as opposed to someone who just loosely associates with a religion in name only. If that makes sense?

                  But it's not even clear what "religion" is in the first place. Look how freely the term is applied. People will say, for instance, that some forms of environmentalism are a "religion".

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                  • KlausK Klaus

                    @89th said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

                    I’d say it’s someone who sincerely believes in their religion as opposed to someone who just loosely associates with a religion in name only. If that makes sense?

                    But it's not even clear what "religion" is in the first place. Look how freely the term is applied. People will say, for instance, that some forms of environmentalism are a "religion".

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                    Copper
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                    #13

                    For the purpose of applying the law there are probably many definitions of a religious person.

                    Pick the one that applies.

                    Fox holes and tax returns also have an effect on religious definitions.

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      @taiwan_girl said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

                      Is it more actions, (the way you conduct yourself), or is it something you believe in.?

                      If those two are separate things, you're just bullshitting.

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                      @aqua-letifer said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

                      @taiwan_girl said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

                      Is it more actions, (the way you conduct yourself), or is it something you believe in.?

                      If those two are separate things, you're just bullshitting.

                      Succinct. And quite true.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • KlausK Klaus

                        @89th said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

                        I’d say it’s someone who sincerely believes in their religion as opposed to someone who just loosely associates with a religion in name only. If that makes sense?

                        But it's not even clear what "religion" is in the first place. Look how freely the term is applied. People will say, for instance, that some forms of environmentalism are a "religion".

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                        @klaus said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

                        @89th said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

                        I’d say it’s someone who sincerely believes in their religion as opposed to someone who just loosely associates with a religion in name only. If that makes sense?

                        But it's not even clear what "religion" is in the first place. Look how freely the term is applied. People will say, for instance, that some forms of environmentalism are a "religion".

                        Some people in more current contexts are defining anti-racism as a religion.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                          There have been a couple of recent forum posts and forum threads about religion and people who are saying they are religious.

                          What is the definition of a religious person?

                          Is it more actions, (the way you conduct yourself), or is it something you believe in.?

                          Example, someone can say they believe in a God, but then go rob a bank. Or someone can say they don’t believe in God, but they live a really good life.

                          I’m just curious as to what people think is a religious person.

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                          Larry
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                          @taiwan_girl said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

                          There have been a couple of recent forum posts and forum threads about religion and people who are saying they are religious.

                          What is the definition of a religious person?

                          Is it more actions, (the way you conduct yourself), or is it something you believe in.?

                          Example, someone can say they believe in a God, but then go rob a bank. Or someone can say they don’t believe in God, but they live a really good life.

                          I’m just curious as to what people think is a religious person.

                          What is it that you're wanting to know - do you want to know God, or are you just interested in defining the word "religion"?

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                            Where is my bud Ax?
                            He would know.
                            Everyone else seems confused.

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                            • LarryL Larry

                              @taiwan_girl said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

                              There have been a couple of recent forum posts and forum threads about religion and people who are saying they are religious.

                              What is the definition of a religious person?

                              Is it more actions, (the way you conduct yourself), or is it something you believe in.?

                              Example, someone can say they believe in a God, but then go rob a bank. Or someone can say they don’t believe in God, but they live a really good life.

                              I’m just curious as to what people think is a religious person.

                              What is it that you're wanting to know - do you want to know God, or are you just interested in defining the word "religion"?

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                              @larry said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

                              @taiwan_girl said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

                              There have been a couple of recent forum posts and forum threads about religion and people who are saying they are religious.

                              What is the definition of a religious person?

                              Is it more actions, (the way you conduct yourself), or is it something you believe in.?

                              Example, someone can say they believe in a God, but then go rob a bank. Or someone can say they don’t believe in God, but they live a really good life.

                              I’m just curious as to what people think is a religious person.

                              What is it that you're wanting to know - do you want to know God, or are you just interested in defining the word "religion"?

                              I highlighted the relevant text that answers your question.

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                              • KlausK Klaus

                                @larry said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

                                @taiwan_girl said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

                                There have been a couple of recent forum posts and forum threads about religion and people who are saying they are religious.

                                What is the definition of a religious person?

                                Is it more actions, (the way you conduct yourself), or is it something you believe in.?

                                Example, someone can say they believe in a God, but then go rob a bank. Or someone can say they don’t believe in God, but they live a really good life.

                                I’m just curious as to what people think is a religious person.

                                What is it that you're wanting to know - do you want to know God, or are you just interested in defining the word "religion"?

                                I highlighted the relevant text that answers your question.

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                                Larry
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                                @klaus said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

                                @larry said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

                                @taiwan_girl said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

                                There have been a couple of recent forum posts and forum threads about religion and people who are saying they are religious.

                                What is the definition of a religious person?

                                Is it more actions, (the way you conduct yourself), or is it something you believe in.?

                                Example, someone can say they believe in a God, but then go rob a bank. Or someone can say they don’t believe in God, but they live a really good life.

                                I’m just curious as to what people think is a religious person.

                                What is it that you're wanting to know - do you want to know God, or are you just interested in defining the word "religion"?

                                I highlighted the relevant text that answers your question.

                                Im asking TG, not you.

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                                  Yes, you did. And I pointed out that she made it abundantly clear what she was asking.

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                                  • KlausK Klaus

                                    Yes, you did. And I pointed out that she made it abundantly clear what she was asking.

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                                    @klaus said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

                                    Yes, you did. And I pointed out that she made it abundantly clear what she was asking.

                                    First, I know who I was talking to, and it wasn't you. Second, you don't know what I'm getting at with my question yourself, so shut up.

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                                      I know exactly what you wanted to get at, and since it's completely irrelevant to what TG was actually asking it's fair to point that out.

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                                        Some additional perspective. My family is Indian. There are a ton of religious elements that are mixed up with culture.

                                        My mom in particular has some very "Indian" habits (rooted in Hinduism), that are actually against Sikhism (we're Sikh).

                                        I see some parallels of that in the U.S.. Christianity is a culture for many, not necessarily a religion.

                                        And yes, I think the left has made up a religion of woke-ism (I think John McWhorter is writing a book on this).

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                                        • KlausK Klaus

                                          I know exactly what you wanted to get at, and since it's completely irrelevant to what TG was actually asking it's fair to point that out.

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                                          @klaus said in What is the definition of a religious person?:

                                          I know exactly what you wanted to get at, and since it's completely irrelevant to what TG was actually asking it's fair to point that out.

                                          Like I've said already, I don't give a damn what your opinion is. I wasn't talking to you, and you do NOT know what I'm getting at, so it's not your place to decide what's relevant and what's not. So butt out.

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