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  • LarryL Larry

    What the Russians did is not the issue. The issue is whether or not the person running for the office participated in it. Another Senate committee has already released a report that showed that Trump did not participate in it, and yet another committee report concluded that Hillary DID participate in it.

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    Axtremus
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    @Larry said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

    What the Russians did is not the issue.

    Wow, why do you not love the USA, that you don't think a foreign country systematically interfering in the USA's election is not the issue?

    Another Senate committee has already released a report that showed that Trump did not participate in it, and yet another committee report concluded that Hillary DID participate in it.

    You post lies. You're just making shit up. Cite the specific reports or go away with your lies.

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    • X xenon

      Should the guy in office acknowledge this and at least tell the Russians to knock it off?

      Or rather - at the very least not say the intelligence community doesn't know they're talking about.

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      Jolly
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      #10

      @xenon said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

      Should the guy in office acknowledge this and at least tell the Russians to knock it off?

      Or rather - at the very least not say the intelligence community doesn't know they're talking about.

      You can tell them all you want to. Since they haven't listened since before WW2, I doubt it will make much difference.

      Secondly, I would be shocked if we weren't diddling in their politics...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        @Larry said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

        What the Russians did is not the issue.

        Wow, why do you not love the USA, that you don't think a foreign country systematically interfering in the USA's election is not the issue?

        Another Senate committee has already released a report that showed that Trump did not participate in it, and yet another committee report concluded that Hillary DID participate in it.

        You post lies. You're just making shit up. Cite the specific reports or go away with your lies.

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        Jolly
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        #11

        @Axtremus said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

        @Larry said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

        What the Russians did is not the issue.

        Wow, why do you not love the USA, that you don't think a foreign country systematically interfering in the USA's election is not the issue?

        Another Senate committee has already released a report that showed that Trump did not participate in it, and yet another committee report concluded that Hillary DID participate in it.

        You post lies. You're just making shit up. Cite the specific reports or go away with your lies.

        What are you, the ultimate arbitrator of conversation?

        Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @xenon said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

          Should the guy in office acknowledge this and at least tell the Russians to knock it off?

          Or rather - at the very least not say the intelligence community doesn't know they're talking about.

          You can tell them all you want to. Since they haven't listened since before WW2, I doubt it will make much difference.

          Secondly, I would be shocked if we weren't diddling in their politics...

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          @Jolly said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

          @xenon said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

          Should the guy in office acknowledge this and at least tell the Russians to knock it off?

          Or rather - at the very least not say the intelligence community doesn't know they're talking about.

          You can tell them all you want to. Since they haven't listened since before WW2, I doubt it will make much difference.

          Secondly, I would be shocked if we weren't cuddling in their politics...

          I'm reading this as, foreign policy beyond war is not a thing. Unless someone listens when we ask nicely.

          Doesn't matter if they run troll farms to stoke partisanship on American social media.

          In the face of this - deny reality and denigrate your own intelligence community.

          I know that's not what you mean - but that's how I read it. Russians did us harm, we should at the very least be willing to call it out.

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @Axtremus said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

            @Larry said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

            What the Russians did is not the issue.

            Wow, why do you not love the USA, that you don't think a foreign country systematically interfering in the USA's election is not the issue?

            Another Senate committee has already released a report that showed that Trump did not participate in it, and yet another committee report concluded that Hillary DID participate in it.

            You post lies. You're just making shit up. Cite the specific reports or go away with your lies.

            What are you, the ultimate arbitrator of conversation?

            Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

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            #13

            @Jolly said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

            @Axtremus said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

            @Larry said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

            What the Russians did is not the issue.

            Wow, why do you not love the USA, that you don't think a foreign country systematically interfering in the USA's election is not the issue?

            Another Senate committee has already released a report that showed that Trump did not participate in it, and yet another committee report concluded that Hillary DID participate in it.

            You post lies. You're just making shit up. Cite the specific reports or go away with your lies.

            What are you, the ultimate arbitrator of conversation?

            I am one who can tell lies from truth. I am one who can tell bullshit from facts.
            What @Larry posted are lies and you should know it.

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              @Larry said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

              What the Russians did is not the issue.

              Wow, why do you not love the USA, that you don't think a foreign country systematically interfering in the USA's election is not the issue?

              Another Senate committee has already released a report that showed that Trump did not participate in it, and yet another committee report concluded that Hillary DID participate in it.

              You post lies. You're just making shit up. Cite the specific reports or go away with your lies.

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              Larry
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              @Axtremus said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

              @Larry said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

              What the Russians did is not the issue.

              Wow, why do you not love the USA, that you don't think a foreign country systematically interfering in the USA's election is not the issue?

              Another Senate committee has already released a report that showed that Trump did not participate in it, and yet another committee report concluded that Hillary DID participate in it.

              You post lies. You're just making shit up. Cite the specific reports or go away with your lies.

              Fuck you.

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                @Jolly said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                @Axtremus said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                @Larry said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                What the Russians did is not the issue.

                Wow, why do you not love the USA, that you don't think a foreign country systematically interfering in the USA's election is not the issue?

                Another Senate committee has already released a report that showed that Trump did not participate in it, and yet another committee report concluded that Hillary DID participate in it.

                You post lies. You're just making shit up. Cite the specific reports or go away with your lies.

                What are you, the ultimate arbitrator of conversation?

                I am one who can tell lies from truth. I am one who can tell bullshit from facts.
                What @Larry posted are lies and you should know it.

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                Larry
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                @Axtremus said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                @Jolly said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                @Axtremus said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                @Larry said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                What the Russians did is not the issue.

                Wow, why do you not love the USA, that you don't think a foreign country systematically interfering in the USA's election is not the issue?

                Another Senate committee has already released a report that showed that Trump did not participate in it, and yet another committee report concluded that Hillary DID participate in it.

                You post lies. You're just making shit up. Cite the specific reports or go away with your lies.

                What are you, the ultimate arbitrator of conversation?

                I am one who can tell lies from truth. I am one who can tell bullshit from facts.
                What @Larry posted are lies and you should know it.

                No they're not. I can't help it that you're a moron.

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                  Ah, the weak and the pathetic resort to personal insults when they know they have neither the facts nor the argument behind them. Sad!

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                    Larry
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                    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/07/richard-burr-senate-russia-investigation-1156624

                    Read it and weep, Ax. Then get off your ass and look the other ones up yourself.

                    Before you call someone a liar again, pull your head out of your ass and educate yourself.

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      Ah, the weak and the pathetic resort to personal insults when they know they have neither the facts nor the argument behind them. Sad!

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                      Larry
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                      @Axtremus said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                      Ah, the weak and the pathetic resort to personal insults when they know they have neither the facts nor the argument behind them. Sad!

                      You're the one who called me a liar, you stupid sack of shit.

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        @Jolly said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                        @Axtremus said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                        @Larry said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                        What the Russians did is not the issue.

                        Wow, why do you not love the USA, that you don't think a foreign country systematically interfering in the USA's election is not the issue?

                        Another Senate committee has already released a report that showed that Trump did not participate in it, and yet another committee report concluded that Hillary DID participate in it.

                        You post lies. You're just making shit up. Cite the specific reports or go away with your lies.

                        What are you, the ultimate arbitrator of conversation?

                        I am one who can tell lies from truth. I am one who can tell bullshit from facts.
                        What @Larry posted are lies and you should know it.

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                        wrote on last edited by Jolly
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                        @Axtremus said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                        @Jolly said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                        @Axtremus said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                        @Larry said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                        What the Russians did is not the issue.

                        Wow, why do you not love the USA, that you don't think a foreign country systematically interfering in the USA's election is not the issue?

                        Another Senate committee has already released a report that showed that Trump did not participate in it, and yet another committee report concluded that Hillary DID participate in it.

                        You post lies. You're just making shit up. Cite the specific reports or go away with your lies.

                        What are you, the ultimate arbitrator of conversation?

                        I am one who can tell lies from truth. I am one who can tell bullshit from facts.
                        What @Larry posted are lies and you should know it.

                        Look, you're a pinheaded, one-trick pony, with such a glaring lack of social skills you couldn't get laid in a whore house with a ten-inch strap-on and a fistful of $100 bills.

                        Did the Russians screw around in our election? Yep. Did they have any real effect? Nope. Did the Trump Campaign collude in any way with the Russians? Nope.

                        Have the Chinese ever meddled in American elections? Yep. Effectively? I dunno, what can the Clinton's and the DNC do with a few million bucks? Was a special prosecutor appointed to look into that? Nope. Has Hillary gone out of her way, even during this latest COVID-19 pandemic to praise the Chinese? Yep. What is she getting out of it? I don't know.

                        Now, I'm going to watch Trump's briefing and you can go piss up a rope with your feigned concern.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • X xenon

                          Should the guy in office acknowledge this and at least tell the Russians to knock it off?

                          Or rather - at the very least not say the intelligence community doesn't know they're talking about.

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                          Improviso
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                          @xenon said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                          Should the guy in office acknowledge this and at least tell the Russians to knock it off?

                          Maybe the previous president should have done something to stop it, huh?

                          But he did nothing. It occurred on the Obama/Biden watch, didn't it?

                          We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                          Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                          • X xenon

                            Should the guy in office acknowledge this and at least tell the Russians to knock it off?

                            Or rather - at the very least not say the intelligence community doesn't know they're talking about.

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                            Larry
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #21

                            @xenon said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                            Should the guy in office acknowledge this and at least tell the Russians to knock it off?

                            Or rather - at the very least not say the intelligence community doesn't know they're talking about.

                            1. No.

                            2. When he said they didnt know what they were talking about, he was referring to their attempts to claim he colluded with the Russians, not whether or not they were meddling in the election.

                            You need to remember a few things, as you seem to be of the opinion that this report proves something negative about Trump. It does not. All it proves is that the Russians meddle in our election in an attempt to help Trump. It does not make the claim that Trump knew this, colluded with the Russians, or that the intelligence community is not guilty of pushing an attempted coup. All it does is prove the Russians meddle in our election, and in their opinion, did so in an attempt to help Trump win. That's old news. The Russians have been meddling in our elections for decades. They meddle in our election tions when Obama won, too. Maybe a Senate committee would prove the did so to help Obama win.

                            Don't think this proves anything. It doesnt.

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                            • ImprovisoI Improviso

                              @xenon said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                              Should the guy in office acknowledge this and at least tell the Russians to knock it off?

                              Maybe the previous president should have done something to stop it, huh?

                              But he did nothing. It occurred on the Obama/Biden watch, didn't it?

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                              xenon
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                              @Improviso said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                              @xenon said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                              Should the guy in office acknowledge this and at least tell the Russians to knock it off?

                              Maybe the previous president should have done something to stop it, huh?

                              But he did nothing. It occurred on the Obama/Biden watch, didn't it?

                              He did - he sanctioned them in Dec 2016 after the election. Hard to say Russians are backing Trump during an active election without seeming biased.

                              The original IC report came out in Jan 2017

                              https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/29/us/politics/russia-election-hacking-sanctions.html

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                              • ImprovisoI Improviso

                                @xenon said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                                Should the guy in office acknowledge this and at least tell the Russians to knock it off?

                                Maybe the previous president should have done something to stop it, huh?

                                But he did nothing. It occurred on the Obama/Biden watch, didn't it?

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                                Larry
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                                @Improviso said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                                @xenon said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                                Should the guy in office acknowledge this and at least tell the Russians to knock it off?

                                Maybe the previous president should have done something to stop it, huh?

                                But he did nothing. It occurred on the Obama/Biden watch, didn't it?

                                Very good point. It wasn't Trumps responsibility to deal with this, it was Obama and Biden's job.

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                                • LarryL Larry

                                  @xenon said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                                  Should the guy in office acknowledge this and at least tell the Russians to knock it off?

                                  Or rather - at the very least not say the intelligence community doesn't know they're talking about.

                                  1. No.

                                  2. When he said they didnt know what they were talking about, he was referring to their attempts to claim he colluded with the Russians, not whether or not they were meddling in the election.

                                  You need to remember a few things, as you seem to be of the opinion that this report proves something negative about Trump. It does not. All it proves is that the Russians meddle in our election in an attempt to help Trump. It does not make the claim that Trump knew this, colluded with the Russians, or that the intelligence community is not guilty of pushing an attempted coup. All it does is prove the Russians meddle in our election, and in their opinion, did so in an attempt to help Trump win. That's old news. The Russians have been meddling in our elections for decades. They meddle in our election tions when Obama won, too. Maybe a Senate committee would prove the did so to help Obama win.

                                  Don't think this proves anything. It doesnt.

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                                  xenon
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                                  @Larry said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                                  @xenon said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                                  Should the guy in office acknowledge this and at least tell the Russians to knock it off?

                                  Or rather - at the very least not say the intelligence community doesn't know they're talking about.

                                  1. No.

                                  2. When he said they didnt know what they were talking about, he was referring to their attempts to claim he colluded with the Russians, not whether or not they were meddling in the election.

                                  You need to remember a few things, as you seem to be of the opinion that this report proves something negative about Trump. It does not. All it proves is that the Russians meddle in our election in an attempt to help Trump. It does not make the claim that Trump knew this, colluded with the Russians, or that the intelligence community is not guilty of pushing an attempted coup. All it does is prove the Russians meddle in our election, and in their opinion, did so in an attempt to help Trump win. That's old news. The Russians have been meddling in our elections for decades. They meddle in our election tions when Obama won, too. Maybe a Senate committee would prove the did so to help Obama win.

                                  Don't think this proves anything. It doesnt.

                                  Trump's talking about Putin on the subject:

                                  “Every time he sees me he says, 'I didn't do that,' and I really believe that when he tells me that, he means it.”

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                                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                    @Jolly said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                                    @Axtremus said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                                    @Larry said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                                    What the Russians did is not the issue.

                                    Wow, why do you not love the USA, that you don't think a foreign country systematically interfering in the USA's election is not the issue?

                                    Another Senate committee has already released a report that showed that Trump did not participate in it, and yet another committee report concluded that Hillary DID participate in it.

                                    You post lies. You're just making shit up. Cite the specific reports or go away with your lies.

                                    What are you, the ultimate arbitrator of conversation?

                                    I am one who can tell lies from truth. I am one who can tell bullshit from facts.
                                    What @Larry posted are lies and you should know it.

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                                    Larry
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                                    @Axtremus said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                                    @Jolly said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                                    @Axtremus said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                                    @Larry said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                                    What the Russians did is not the issue.

                                    Wow, why do you not love the USA, that you don't think a foreign country systematically interfering in the USA's election is not the issue?

                                    Another Senate committee has already released a report that showed that Trump did not participate in it, and yet another committee report concluded that Hillary DID participate in it.

                                    You post lies. You're just making shit up. Cite the specific reports or go away with your lies.

                                    What are you, the ultimate arbitrator of conversation?

                                    I am one who can tell lies from truth. I am one who can tell bullshit from facts.
                                    What @Larry posted are lies and you should know it.

                                    Ax, you couldn't find your own ass with a funnel and a road map, much less tell fact from fiction.

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                                    • X xenon

                                      @Larry said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                                      @xenon said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                                      Should the guy in office acknowledge this and at least tell the Russians to knock it off?

                                      Or rather - at the very least not say the intelligence community doesn't know they're talking about.

                                      1. No.

                                      2. When he said they didnt know what they were talking about, he was referring to their attempts to claim he colluded with the Russians, not whether or not they were meddling in the election.

                                      You need to remember a few things, as you seem to be of the opinion that this report proves something negative about Trump. It does not. All it proves is that the Russians meddle in our election in an attempt to help Trump. It does not make the claim that Trump knew this, colluded with the Russians, or that the intelligence community is not guilty of pushing an attempted coup. All it does is prove the Russians meddle in our election, and in their opinion, did so in an attempt to help Trump win. That's old news. The Russians have been meddling in our elections for decades. They meddle in our election tions when Obama won, too. Maybe a Senate committee would prove the did so to help Obama win.

                                      Don't think this proves anything. It doesnt.

                                      Trump's talking about Putin on the subject:

                                      “Every time he sees me he says, 'I didn't do that,' and I really believe that when he tells me that, he means it.”

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                                      Larry
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                                      @xenon said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                                      @Larry said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                                      @xenon said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                                      Should the guy in office acknowledge this and at least tell the Russians to knock it off?

                                      Or rather - at the very least not say the intelligence community doesn't know they're talking about.

                                      1. No.

                                      2. When he said they didnt know what they were talking about, he was referring to their attempts to claim he colluded with the Russians, not whether or not they were meddling in the election.

                                      You need to remember a few things, as you seem to be of the opinion that this report proves something negative about Trump. It does not. All it proves is that the Russians meddle in our election in an attempt to help Trump. It does not make the claim that Trump knew this, colluded with the Russians, or that the intelligence community is not guilty of pushing an attempted coup. All it does is prove the Russians meddle in our election, and in their opinion, did so in an attempt to help Trump win. That's old news. The Russians have been meddling in our elections for decades. They meddle in our election tions when Obama won, too. Maybe a Senate committee would prove the did so to help Obama win.

                                      Don't think this proves anything. It doesnt.

                                      Trump's talking about Putin on the subject:

                                      “Every time he sees me he says, 'I didn't do that,' and I really believe that when he tells me that, he means it.”

                                      So what's your point? You seem to be agreeing that Trump didn't know anything about it.

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                                        xenon
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                                        The point is exactly the one in the start of this thread.

                                        Senate committee says Russia interfered. They know. They know because we have intelligence. This intelligence has known this since before Trump got elected.

                                        Trump knew.

                                        He acts like he doesn't.

                                        And disagrees with the IC when they correct him.

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                                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                          Ah, the weak and the pathetic resort to personal insults when they know they have neither the facts nor the argument behind them. Sad!

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                                          @Axtremus said in Senate Intelligence report on 2016 Russian election interference:

                                          Ah, the weak and the pathetic resort to personal insults when they know they have neither the facts nor the argument behind them. Sad!

                                          Isolation does take a heavy toll.

                                          The Shrinks will be VERY busy in a few months.

                                          We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                                          Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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