Suspended for wrongspeak
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Maybe, because it is a Chinese virus?
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Same general reason the 1918 epidemic is called The Spanish Flu?
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Same general reason the 1918 epidemic is called The Spanish Flu?
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@Jolly said in Suspended for wrongspeak:
Maybe, because it is a Chinese virus?
"Chinese virus" does have a connotation that's separate from the literal meaning of the words.
With everything we say, there are three levels of communication:
- What we say
- Underlying that is what we mean by what we say
- Underlying that, is what we want to have happen by saying what we said
You can't just say you're allowed to let the chips fall where they may and willfully ignore #2 and #3 when it's how you and everyone else in the world knowingly communicates.
So yeah, "Chinese virus" in the context of sars-cov-2 has other connotations outside of just where the virus originated.
That being said, it's insane and disturbing that that guy was suspended.
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Same general reason the 1918 epidemic is called The Spanish Flu?
@LuFins-Dad said in Suspended for wrongspeak:
Same general reason the 1918 epidemic is called The Spanish Flu?
Actually, not at all. The Spanish flu was so-called because it was one of the few countries that didn't censor reporting it in the press. It almost certainly didn't originate in Spain.
https://www.history.com/news/why-was-it-called-the-spanish-flu
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@Jolly said in Suspended for wrongspeak:
Maybe, because it is a Chinese virus?
"Chinese virus" does have a connotation that's separate from the literal meaning of the words.
With everything we say, there are three levels of communication:
- What we say
- Underlying that is what we mean by what we say
- Underlying that, is what we want to have happen by saying what we said
You can't just say you're allowed to let the chips fall where they may and willfully ignore #2 and #3 when it's how you and everyone else in the world knowingly communicates.
So yeah, "Chinese virus" in the context of sars-cov-2 has other connotations outside of just where the virus originated.
That being said, it's insane and disturbing that that guy was suspended.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Suspended for wrongspeak:
@Jolly said in Suspended for wrongspeak:
Maybe, because it is a Chinese virus?
"Chinese virus" does have a connotation that's separate from the literal meaning of the words.
With everything we say, there are three levels of communication:
- What we say
- Underlying that is what we mean by what we say
- Underlying that, is what we want to have happen by saying what we said
You can't just say you're allowed to let the chips fall where they may and willfully ignore #2 and #3 when it's how you and everyone else in the world knowingly communicates.
So yeah, "Chinese virus" in the context of sars-cov-2 has other connotations outside of just where the virus originated.
That being said, it's insane and disturbing that that guy was suspended.
But why ? Doesn’t it fall under the category of creating a hostile environment? I think the argument can easily be made.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Suspended for wrongspeak:
@Jolly said in Suspended for wrongspeak:
Maybe, because it is a Chinese virus?
"Chinese virus" does have a connotation that's separate from the literal meaning of the words.
With everything we say, there are three levels of communication:
- What we say
- Underlying that is what we mean by what we say
- Underlying that, is what we want to have happen by saying what we said
You can't just say you're allowed to let the chips fall where they may and willfully ignore #2 and #3 when it's how you and everyone else in the world knowingly communicates.
So yeah, "Chinese virus" in the context of sars-cov-2 has other connotations outside of just where the virus originated.
That being said, it's insane and disturbing that that guy was suspended.
But why ? Doesn’t it fall under the category of creating a hostile environment? I think the argument can easily be made.
@Loki said in Suspended for wrongspeak:
But why ?
- For the same reason you don't punch your friend in the throat for playing "made you look." It's a crazy overreaction. As others said, who tried talking to the guy first?
- Today's pedestrian definition of a hostile work environment (that is, how companies act in practice rather than what the courts decide) seems to be "anything anyone thinks is hostile, with special weight given to victims who have more social street cred than the assailants." How you take your coffee could constitute creating a hostile work environment, especially if the person accusing you is a transgender Somalian refugee and you're a white guy. If personal opinion is the litmus test, then of course the argument could be made. The bar's so low it's on the ground.
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@Loki said in Suspended for wrongspeak:
But why ?
- For the same reason you don't punch your friend in the throat for playing "made you look." It's a crazy overreaction. As others said, who tried talking to the guy first?
- Today's pedestrian definition of a hostile work environment (that is, how companies act in practice rather than what the courts decide) seems to be "anything anyone thinks is hostile, with special weight given to victims who have more social street cred than the assailants." How you take your coffee could constitute creating a hostile work environment, especially if the person accusing you is a transgender Somalian refugee and you're a white guy. If personal opinion is the litmus test, then of course the argument could be made. The bar's so low it's on the ground.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Suspended for wrongspeak:
@Loki said in Suspended for wrongspeak:
But why ?
- For the same reason you don't punch your friend in the throat for playing "made you look." It's a crazy overreaction. As others said, who tried talking to the guy first?
It is also possible that they'd already had a chat with him over something else, which might explain what appears to be an over-reaction.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Suspended for wrongspeak:
@Loki said in Suspended for wrongspeak:
But why ?
- For the same reason you don't punch your friend in the throat for playing "made you look." It's a crazy overreaction. As others said, who tried talking to the guy first?
It is also possible that they'd already had a chat with him over something else, which might explain what appears to be an over-reaction.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Suspended for wrongspeak:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Suspended for wrongspeak:
@Loki said in Suspended for wrongspeak:
But why ?
- For the same reason you don't punch your friend in the throat for playing "made you look." It's a crazy overreaction. As others said, who tried talking to the guy first?
It is also possible that they'd already had a chat with him over something else, which might explain what appears to be an over-reaction.
Sure, if the premise was different, a last straw kind of situation might make the suspension completely reasonable. But we're pontificating about one news writeup involving people and an environment no one here knows personally, so just making shit up about the argument foundations seems completely okay.
