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  • MikM Mik

    There's a deep, dark chasm between 'don't live in fear, God will provide' and 'don't live in fear, but take reasonable precautions'.

    What was that old saw about God helping those who help themselves?

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    @Mik said in Symptoms:

    There's a deep, dark chasm between 'don't live in fear, God will provide' and 'don't live in fear, but take reasonable precautions'.

    What was that old saw about God helping those who help themselves?

    You can look it up, because I'm going from memory, but I think the word "prudent" is mentioned in the Bible a half-dozen times...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      Should we treat the symptoms? He has an elevated temperature but below 100 (99.5) but his congestion is worse. I’m hesitant to give him DayQuil because it would bring down the temp and the temperature is helping his immune system... If it was a cold, I wouldn’t hesitate since the immune system will catch up in a day or two, but with this crap I want to give it every chance to do it’s thing... Thoughts?

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      @LuFins-Dad said in Symptoms:

      Should we treat the symptoms? He has an elevated temperature but below 100 (99.5) but his congestion is worse. I’m hesitant to give him DayQuil because it would bring down the temp and the temperature is helping his immune system... If it was a cold, I wouldn’t hesitate since the immune system will catch up in a day or two, but with this crap I want to give it every chance to do it’s thing... Thoughts?

      MS is finally better, but still all neg tests.

      Her docs said treat the symptoms -- which was for her steroids to open the chest and antibiotics to boost against secondary infection and pneumonia.

      She's back to work, but still no sense of taste or smell. Her covid FB group (perhaps the same as D2) is a wealth of anecdotal but very consistent information about multi-systemic symptoms and treatments and effects. Including kidney stones, dry and cracked lips and tongue, and "icy - hot" feelings in her mouth, throat, and upper shoulders, all of which MS had.

      Some people after 8 months haven't gotten their sense of taste or smell back. One H1N1 survivor never got her sense of smell and taste back from 2009. Ugh.

      LD -- the wisdom is to treat it as if -- it took a couple of different courses of antibiotics and a superdose of short term steroid to clear up MS. The most important thing seems to be to keep him where he doesn't need to go to the hospital for ventilation, because that's a whole other problem. Get a doc involved ASAP -- call in favors -- they don't want to see you in their office, but I was able to coordinate via telehealth with her local PCP, her immunologist, and our old doc in Phx (a dear friend), to get them all on the same page, and it worked.

      Prayers for your sons and the whole family.

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        Thanks for the prayers and the info. I honestly don’t expect Lucas to get to the point of needing anything other than some slight symptomatic relief. He really appears to following the typical teenage scenario... Very mild symptoms, no cough, a little congestion, mild fever... The only big red flag is the loss of smell and taste. There’s every reason to hope he’ll be back to normal this weekend and back to work the next...

        It’s Karla that I am most concerned about in all this. If she gets it then this household is screwed, lol.

        The Brad

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          Loki
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          George- the comment “that’s his mom in his ear” was amazing. If people only understood where their point of view was coming from.

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            Lufin, some Walgreens are offering the one hour test. We went to one and got ours back before we got home.

            https://www.walgreens.com/findcare/covid19/testing?ban=covid_testing&cjevent=3d5ff9e7333611eb823a0ba40a240612&CID=5250933&ext=9069228&PID=9069228&AID=11020894&SID=tuid%3A2CA13415F48D680D12943B84F52569C4

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              @Mik Thanks! I will keep that as backup for myself and Karla. I still want him to go to our Physician first... I imagine Karla and I will need to be tested once he’s clear.

              The Brad

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                Pfizer and Moderna's mRNA new type of vaccine.
                Oxford University’s AstraZeneca, maybe even other vaccines that will be granted approval.

                I don't understand, will people be given a choice as to which vaccine they would like? Are they the same in how they work?

                I'd like the best vaccine. Which one is it?

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                  Your insurance might have something to say, too.

                  The Brad

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                    Astra Zeneca's will be cheaper, unless Warp Speed has skewed the pricing mechanism (which is entirely possible). It is proven technology that is easier to transport and store.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      Your insurance might have something to say, too.

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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Symptoms:

                      Your insurance might have something to say, too.

                      Do you mean, like:
                      "We (provider) will pay $100 toward the vaccine by X, which has a price of $120 and is 85% effective. If you choose Y, which is 97% effective but costs $980, the additional cost must be made by you."

                      Something like that?

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                      • RainmanR Rainman

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Symptoms:

                        Your insurance might have something to say, too.

                        Do you mean, like:
                        "We (provider) will pay $100 toward the vaccine by X, which has a price of $120 and is 85% effective. If you choose Y, which is 97% effective but costs $980, the additional cost must be made by you."

                        Something like that?

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                        @Rainman said in Symptoms:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Symptoms:

                        Your insurance might have something to say, too.

                        Do you mean, like:
                        "We (provider) will pay $100 toward the vaccine by X, which has a price of $120 and is 85% effective. If you choose Y, which is 97% effective but costs $980, the additional cost must be made by you."

                        Something like that?

                        Yep, but just for starters... How about if in-network physicians are “encouraged” to only provide 1 (preferred) option?

                        Frankly, most people won’t even know or care which vaccine they are getting.

                        The Brad

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                          Most providers will only get one kind, at least at the beginning.

                          I’m prepared to shop around to get the one I want, if I need to.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            Medicare will cover whatever it is, no OOP.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              Most providers will only get one kind, at least at the beginning.

                              I’m prepared to shop around to get the one I want, if I need to.

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                              @jon-nyc said in Symptoms:

                              I’m prepared to shop around to get the one I want, if I need to.

                              And that'll be....?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Personally, I think the US Market for vaccines will be a lot lower by late January.

                                The Brad

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                                  And Luke’s test came back positive... That’s one less vaccine needed (for at least 9 months...)

                                  The Brad

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    And Luke’s test came back positive... That’s one less vaccine needed (for at least 9 months...)

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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Symptoms:

                                    And Luke’s test came back positive... That’s one less vaccine needed (for at least 9 months...)

                                    Not a surprise, but a disappointment nevertheless. Please keep us updated on Luke, and the rest of the family, of course.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      kluurs
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                                      #333

                                      Sorry to hear about Luke - hope this he avoids the long haul.

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                                        Odds are very much in his favor.

                                        My nephew was 24, and shook it off in four days, with mostly flu-like symptoms.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          I’m indifferent to Pfizer and Moderna. If Astra Zeneca gets to 90% I’m indifferent to that as well. I don’t care about the diff between 90 and 95%. Not exactly sure when I start thinking about it maybe under 85%. I don’t know. I will make sure everyone I know gets it fast, that matters most.

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