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Buyer's Remorse

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  • Catseye3C Catseye3

    @Renauda said in Buyer's Remorse:

    The DNC will have to face this fact during the next four years and rebuild itself as a firmly moderate centrist party if it ever hopes to compete with its opposite number in years to come. I am optimistic that if nothing else this election has laid bare that fact to the DNC and that it will work to erase the damaging effects that the Jacobins in its midst have and are causing.

    From your lips to God's ear. Taking the long view, it's my more simple-minded impression that the Democratic Party has distinguished itself of late mostly through dumbassery.

    The Republican Party also has work to do. They enabled Trump. They had a chance early on to distance themselves from the crazy assclown and do a solid for America, and they chose to take the coward's way out. By the time they realized they were stuck fast to the Trump tarbaby, they had nowhere to go. Then the love affair began to discorporate around the trial, when it was really too late, followed by endless waffling. So a pox on them, too.

    Rick Wilson in his book Everything Trump Touches Dies talks about this very well -- the nature of the damage the GOP has done to itself through Trump and how it can resurrect itself with the American people.

    I fear neither party is in a good place to repair themselves, which is really too bad.

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    Jolly
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    #27

    @Catseye3 said in Buyer's Remorse:

    @Renauda said in Buyer's Remorse:

    The DNC will have to face this fact during the next four years and rebuild itself as a firmly moderate centrist party if it ever hopes to compete with its opposite number in years to come. I am optimistic that if nothing else this election has laid bare that fact to the DNC and that it will work to erase the damaging effects that the Jacobins in its midst have and are causing.

    From your lips to God's ear. Taking the long view, it's my more simple-minded impression that the Democratic Party has distinguished itself of late mostly through dumbassery.

    The Republican Party also has work to do. They enabled Trump. They had a chance early on to distance themselves from the crazy assclown and do a solid for America, and they chose to take the coward's way out. By the time they realized they were stuck fast to the Trump tarbaby, they had nowhere to go. Then the love affair began to discorporate around the trial, when it was really too late, followed by endless waffling. So a pox on them, too.

    Rick Wilson in his book Everything Trump Touches Dies talks about this very well -- the nature of the damage the GOP has done to itself through Trump and how it can resurrect itself with the American people.

    I fear neither party is in a good place to repair themselves, which is really too bad.

    Listen , oh TDS sufferer. The Man got more votes than any other presidential candidate in history. Without fraud, that is.

    He got record numbers of black men. He took the majority of the native American vote. He got a much higher percentage of Latino votes than any GOP candidate in recent memory.

    And you want to walk away from that?

    Are you head-banging stupid? Even with his impolite personality, you take COVID and its effect out of the equation and Trump would have slaughtered Biden. Trump ran into a perfect storm, that he failed to navigate well. He also ran into the most fraudulent/fucked up election in the last 100 years or more.

    The next person that thinks millions of mail-in ballots is a good idea - even in the middle of an epidemic - should be pithed and left to die in a road ditch, while the crows pick his eyes out.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Horace
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      #28

      Record number of black men. That's something.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        Record number of black men. That's something.

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        Jolly
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        #29

        @Horace said in Buyer's Remorse:

        Record number of black men. That's something.

        18%.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Horace
          wrote on last edited by
          #30

          so maybe our open and honest social discussion should be had between those two groups. What a sight to behold that would be. Oh, but we white folk are just entering into the discussion hand tied and blind folded, now aren't we.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            @George-K said in Buyer's Remorse:

            @Horace said in Buyer's Remorse:

            There is no such thing as a unifier in politics. So if anybody ever tells you that their favorite politician is more of a unifier than yours, you can go ahead and tell them that they are full of shit.

            You know, that's a pretty profound comment. It's all about winning.

            As Jolly frequently says, "Politics ain't beanbag."

            So sad, if you have had any hope for a unifying politician at all, it seems Trump completely purged that out of you in the last four years.

            Perk up. So what if your preferred candidate lost this time around. You know the winner is not that bad, don’t you?

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            @Axtremus said in Buyer's Remorse:

            So sad, if you have had any hope for a unifying politician at all, it seems Trump completely purged that out of you in the last four years.

            The last unifier we had

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              Larry
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              #32

              Here, all you ignorant Trump bashers. Have a look at what absolute tools you are:

              Link to video

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                @George-K said in Buyer's Remorse:

                @Jolly said in Buyer's Remorse:

                seventy million people who voted for Trump.

                Chumps

                There are over 75 million people who voted for Biden.
                If you prefer, you can rephrase as “there are 75 million people who voted against Trump.”

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                Larry
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                #33

                @Axtremus said in Buyer's Remorse:

                @George-K said in Buyer's Remorse:

                @Jolly said in Buyer's Remorse:

                seventy million people who voted for Trump.

                Chumps

                There are over 75 million people who voted for Biden.
                If you prefer, you can rephrase as “there are 75 million people who voted against Trump.”

                How many of them were dead?

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                • LarryL Larry

                  Here, all you ignorant Trump bashers. Have a look at what absolute tools you are:

                  Link to video

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #34

                  @Larry said in Buyer's Remorse:

                  Here, all you ignorant Trump bashers. Have a look at what absolute tools you are:

                  Link to video

                  They won't look. But the video makes some very good points.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    taiwan_girl
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                    #35

                    I think you guys are developing BDS. 555

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      @Renauda Good to "see" you here. Always enjoy your interesting posts.

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                      Renauda
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                      #36

                      @taiwan_girl said in Buyer's Remorse:

                      @Renauda Good to "see" you here. Always enjoy your interesting posts.

                      Thank you TG, as do I reading your reasoned posts.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • Catseye3C Catseye3

                        @Renauda said in Buyer's Remorse:

                        The DNC will have to face this fact during the next four years and rebuild itself as a firmly moderate centrist party if it ever hopes to compete with its opposite number in years to come. I am optimistic that if nothing else this election has laid bare that fact to the DNC and that it will work to erase the damaging effects that the Jacobins in its midst have and are causing.

                        From your lips to God's ear. Taking the long view, it's my more simple-minded impression that the Democratic Party has distinguished itself of late mostly through dumbassery.

                        The Republican Party also has work to do. They enabled Trump. They had a chance early on to distance themselves from the crazy assclown and do a solid for America, and they chose to take the coward's way out. By the time they realized they were stuck fast to the Trump tarbaby, they had nowhere to go. Then the love affair began to discorporate around the trial, when it was really too late, followed by endless waffling. So a pox on them, too.

                        Rick Wilson in his book Everything Trump Touches Dies talks about this very well -- the nature of the damage the GOP has done to itself through Trump and how it can resurrect itself with the American people.

                        I fear neither party is in a good place to repair themselves, which is really too bad.

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #37

                        @Catseye3 said in Buyer's Remorse:

                        The Republican Party also has work to do. They enabled Trump. They had a chance early on to distance themselves from the crazy assclown and do a solid for America, and they chose to take the coward's way out. By the time they realized they were stuck fast to the Trump tarbaby, they had nowhere to go. Then the love affair began to discorporate around the trial, when it was really too late, followed by endless waffling. So a pox on them, too.

                        I agree. They have to come to terms with the fact that under Trump, the Republican Party ceased to the voice of conservatism. Trump is not and has never been a conservative. Now is a perfect opportunity for Burkian conservative Republicans to reclaim their party from the Trumpian reactionaries.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • LarryL Offline
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                          Larry
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #38

                          See what I mean? Ignore, mock. You Trump bashers won't address that video at all. And most of the noise is coming from people who don't even live here and frankly is none of their fucking business anyway.

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                            Horace
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #39

                            yeah it's difficult to be less impressed by someone who not only doesn't live in the country but doesn't post here in any consistent manner. If you want people to take you seriously you should probably broaden your portfolio of motivations for writing something to them.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Catseye3
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #40

                              Disagree.

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #41

                                Are you impressed by AndyD, Cats?

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Catseye3
                                  wrote on last edited by
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                                  Sorry, I thought you were talking about someone else.

                                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #43

                                    Renauda is a smart guy, I know that. I wish he posted here more often, but he seems to have categorized us.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                      #44

                                      I may not live in the US or have US citizenship but I every right to comment upon and criticise American political events and persons. Especially when policies or statements emanating out the White House have or are affecting the country in which I live. That right extends to anyone else from outside the USA who posts here regularly or from time to time and wishes to comment. It is, after all, an open forum.

                                      Think of us outliers then as disenfranchised stakeholders whose observations and comments are of no consequence. That, I am sure, would suit us just fine.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • MikM Away
                                        MikM Away
                                        Mik
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #45

                                        It's an open forum and should remain that way. I mean hell, we're not Facebook, are we?

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #46

                                          In fairness, your ultimate prediction strikes me as little more than nihilism, without taking part in the outcome.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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