Trump's reaction to losing
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My guess is most republicans in government are going to throw him under the bus and distance themselves as much as possible from the pathetic clinging to his fantasy narrative.
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A few will need to hold on because they want to inherit his base.
Ted Crus, for example.
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@bachophile said in Trump's reaction to losing:
My guess is most republicans in government are going to throw him under the bus and distance themselves as much as possible from the pathetic clinging to his fantasy narrative.
I love you, but you're full of shit. I think if Trump gets thrown under the bus, the rank and file will grab their pitchforks.
The Republican Party has changed.
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Maybe the voting public has changed.
But my guess is there will be a shift back to classic conservatism on the right.
Otherwise the party will slowly erode and whither.
p.s. glad u still u love me.
Means there is still hope in the world
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@xenon said in Trump's reaction to losing:
Now - I don't think anyone expected him to go out with grace.
But he's being quite the little bitch about it right now.
Is this in line, milder or more aggressive complaining than what you would have expected?
He couldn't concede now if he wanted to.
There has to be some recounts and appeals. It is just too close to do otherwise.
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@bachophile said in Trump's reaction to losing:
Maybe the voting public has changed.
But my guess is there will be a shift back to classic conservatism on the right.
Otherwise the part will slowly erode and whither.
Look at the influence that still exists from the Tea Party. And Trump populism generated more black and Latino support for the GOP, than has been seen in many years.
The George Wills and David Brooks of the party are dead or dying. I think that the GOP will start to grow with more blue collar support, especially after Biden starts to tax them and take some of their better paying jobs away.
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I think you're both completely guessing and have no idea what's going to happen.
There's way too much noise at the moment to accurately divine the future.
Proud supporter of Plan 2525. Everything you think, do and say will be in the pill you took today.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump's reaction to losing:
I think you're both completely guessing and have no idea what's going to happen.
There's way too much noise at the moment to accurately divine the future.
No, I'm looking at the enthusiasm of the populist faction under Trump. These guys are already eyeing the House in 2022.
They're pissed and they're motivated.
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A week is a long time in politics. Two years is an eternity.
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It's a little funny, actually. If Biden was the one having to fight right now, every damn one of you who are yanking on Trump would be behind him 100%. It's also funny how some of you insist that it's the Republican party that needs to change.
The one good thing that might actually come from all this is the DEMOCRAT party may change. And that's the party that needs to change, not the republicans. It already could be happening. The moderate democrats seem to have grown a little spine finally, and told the "progressives" that unless they stop with the Socialism talk and get more to the center they will face a blood bath in 2 years. They are correct. They seem to be fed up with Pelosi as well. Also, the "squad".
There's nothing the Republican party needs to change, as long as the don't allow the never Trumper neocons take over again. Whether you like Trump or you don't, he changed the narrative that said the democrats were the "party of the people" to the republicans being the party of the people and the democrats are now seen, rightfully so, as the party of big business.
Some of you just don't get it. It wasn't that we loved Trump personally so much, it was that we loved the things he was getting done. No one can take that away from him, they can only undo it. And if they do undo the things he accomplished, it will either be the death of America, or the death of the democrat party.
I think Biden won. I don't think he won because anyone likes him or Harris. He won because so many people hate Trump. Most of those who hate the man do so out of ignorance, and the smaller and smaller pool of people still able to tell shit from shinola. Trump's legacy may just be that he exposed enough of the corrupt government machinery that BOTH parties were a part of. Time will tell if the American public is smart enough to take advantage of it, though I don't hold out much hope for that. Between the media and the shallow thinking of many people today, most likely the establishment will drown it and we will go back to marching headlong off a cliff. Or maybe the moderate democrats will throw Pelosi and the "squad" to the dogs.
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@xenon said in Trump's reaction to losing:
@Jolly he not interesting unless he’s on the cusp or in the seat of power.
He had simple messages that connected with people from day one.
Unless you mean he’ll be starting up MAGA 2024.
I hope he does. Four years of the damage that's coming should be all it takes.
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That son of his with the beard sounds like he might want to have a go at it. The other son without the chin could be his VP.
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@Larry said in Trump's reaction to losing:
@xenon said in Trump's reaction to losing:
@Jolly he not interesting unless he’s on the cusp or in the seat of power.
He had simple messages that connected with people from day one.
Unless you mean he’ll be starting up MAGA 2024.
I hope he does. Four years of the damage that's coming should be all it takes.
If Biden does not change some already stated objectives, or if the GOP Senate cannot stop him, there is going to be major economic hemorrhaging...Take New Mexico...New Mexico has two major industries, tourism and the oil fields. The oil fields are mostly on Federal land.
Between Captain Lockdown killing the tourist industry and ending fracking in Federal land leases, New Mexico is in very bad shape.
That's one state among many...
