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Jim Baker weighs in

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #11

    It’s odd to think that this would be a big avenue for fraud.

    Imagine an organization sophisticated enough to manufacture ballots, fake 20,000 or so registrations, somehow get all the signatures different, etc. All the myriad things required.

    Wouldn’t such an organization have the technical capability to drop them in mailboxes sometime before the end of October?

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      Meh. Rank speculation.

      The postmark problem is quite real. The ballot return envelopes are prepaid and the USPS doesn’t postmark prepaid mail. They’ve agreed to implement it in the case of ballots by policy but they openly concede that there will be a lot of errors.

      As for the PA case, it certainly isn’t against the US constitution. It may be against the PA constitution and possibly Scotus will chime in.

      Again to Andy McCarthy’s point we don’t know how many ballots that is. Pretty much depends on the USPS error rate.

      And Biden will win the state by 100k. That will make it moot.

      JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      @jon-nyc said in Jim Baker weighs in:

      Meh. Rank speculation.

      The postmark problem is quite real. The ballot return envelopes are prepaid and the USPS doesn’t postmark prepaid mail. They’ve agreed to implement it in the case of ballots by policy but they openly concede that there will be a lot of errors.

      As for the PA case, it certainly isn’t against the US constitution. It may be against the PA constitution and possibly Scotus will chime in.

      Again to Andy McCarthy’s point we don’t know how many ballots that is. Pretty much depends on the USPS error rate.

      And Biden will win the state by 100k. That will make it moot.

      Article 2, which addresses the Electors, specifically gives that job to the state legislatures. As the Constitution has been applied in the past, the state legislatures set state election law. In Pennsylvania, they did so. The governor changed that law for supposedly COVID reasons. His changes were upheld by elected judges (all Dem) on Pennsylvania's Supreme Court.

      If Republicans were like Democrats, Philadelphia would be burning to the ground, even as we speak.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        #13

        The problem from Trump’s end is that HE took it to court. It needs to be the state legislature...

        But beyond that, 100K votes in a city with Philly’s proven track record? Easy peas...How many Judges of Elections and City Officials have been arrested this year for ballot stuffing and voter fraud? 2 at least...You think they were the only ones? Not a chance. They stop watchers from entering, when forced to allow watchers they keep them 50-80 feet away... When a judge rules they have to be closer they shut down counting and take it back to the courts...But nothing to see here

        Excuse us for asking the state and city to follow the laws of their state and Federal Election Law. You should want some transparency, too...

        The Brad

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
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          Meh. As I said to LD you’d need to see the facts and the arguments. Surely in every jurisdiction details are delegated to the executive.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            The problem from Trump’s end is that HE took it to court. It needs to be the state legislature...

            But beyond that, 100K votes in a city with Philly’s proven track record? Easy peas...How many Judges of Elections and City Officials have been arrested this year for ballot stuffing and voter fraud? 2 at least...You think they were the only ones? Not a chance. They stop watchers from entering, when forced to allow watchers they keep them 50-80 feet away... When a judge rules they have to be closer they shut down counting and take it back to the courts...But nothing to see here

            Excuse us for asking the state and city to follow the laws of their state and Federal Election Law. You should want some transparency, too...

            JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #15

            @LuFins-Dad said in Jim Baker weighs in:

            The problem from Trump’s end is that HE took it to court. It needs to be the state legislature...

            But beyond that, 100K votes in a city with Philly’s proven track record? Easy peas...How many Judges of Elections and City Officials have been arrested this year for ballot stuffing and voter fraud? 2 at least...You think they were the only ones? Not a chance. They stop watchers from entering, when forced to allow watchers they keep them 50-80 feet away... When a judge rules they have to be closer they shut down counting and take it back to the courts...But nothing to see here

            Excuse us for asking the state and city to follow the laws of their state and Federal Election Law. You should want some transparency, too...

            Why should they?

            Win, baby, win...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #16

              In 2018 mail-in voter fraud led to a house election being overturned in NC.

              Why didn’t Trump make that candidate a household name? Any idea?

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #17

                Georgia is down to 2k vote differential.

                We won’t even need PA.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #18

                  6000 illegal votes?

                  https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/many-6000-illegal-votes-identified-nevada-thousands-people-referred-doj-potential-criminal-violation-election-laws/

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                    #19

                    “As many as” is doing a lot of work there. But sure, these should be investigated.

                    A friend of mine moved from Reno to CA last year and received a ballot at her mom’s house in NV.

                    That is to expected, since they obviously don’t purge voter rolls every year.

                    Of course she knew better than to vote the ballot.

                    For my own part, I was tempted to vote against DeBlasio in 2013, the election was maybe 60 days after I left th3 city. But I didn’t.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #20

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        #21

                        It's amazing that a group of people as stupid as the Democrats are have managed to do this to the smartest guy ever to be President.

                        I was only joking

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                          #22

                          I just woke up so I’m trying to get my brain working. Thought by now it would be over

                          As for the Pennsylvania extra three day law, I heard the Pa sc state say on TV when pressed, that either way, the number of votes arriving postmarked after Election Day was too low to make any difffernce. Some counties had 0. Bigger counties maybe a few hundred. Even if they threw out every vote after nov 3 it would not change the outcome. So if the WH really presses that point in court and wins, makes no goddamn difference.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            In 2018 mail-in voter fraud led to a house election being overturned in NC.

                            Why didn’t Trump make that candidate a household name? Any idea?

                            jon-nycJ Online
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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                            #23

                            @jon-nyc said in Jim Baker weighs in:

                            In 2018 mail-in voter fraud led to a house election being overturned in NC.

                            Why didn’t Trump make that candidate a household name? Any idea?

                            Anybody have a guess?

                            This was right on point for Trump’s narrative. A house election winner got busted just two years ago in a mail-in vote harvesting fraud scheme.

                            Why didn’t Trump and his surrogates make him a household name?

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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