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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #83

    Link to video

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • MikM Offline
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      wrote on last edited by
      #84

      Good piece.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • AxtremusA Offline
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        #85

        Yeah, now Tucker believes Hunter is not a bad person. Tucker has nothing to show. That segment is just Tucker’s lame attempt at saving face while backing away from the topic. A better man would simply acknowledge that he had not do enough due diligence before spreading unsubstantiated allegations on the air.

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        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Thievery, most foul?:

          @Jolly said in Thievery, most foul?:

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Thievery, most foul?:

          He's not smart enough to use an ftp site or dropbox to transfer files.

          Honestly - they mail this stuff on USB sticks? LOLz.

          Dear of hacking?

          According to Tucker's original video, the files were sent to a Fox producer, and he was sending them to Tucker as he was working remotely in California.

          Now, I don't know about you, but I deal with highly confidential documents on a daily basis as part of my job, and we would never, ever, send them on a stick via a courier or via snail-mail. We have encryption processes set up, and internal networking that allows us to access these documents immediately.

          As a matter of fact, our laptops are locked to prevent us from putting anything on a USB stick, due to security concerns.

          If we had to send all our files via the mail, we'd never get anything done. And clearly, if you believe this story, the courier is a long way from being secure.

          There's something about this whole story that doesn't make sense.

          This!!! ☝

          We have a secure server we can log onto and it is coded from end to end.

          In fact, some of the sites/offices I have visited, they place a thin tape over the USB ports on a computer, just to ensure that you are not passing any information via USB. You cannot rip the tape cleanly and replace it, so when you leave, they look at the tape to see if it has been tampered with.

          What seems suspicious about this story is that most sorting of mail and packages is not done by humans, but is all automated. So, I find it hard to believe that out of all the thousands/millions of packages, this one "anonymous" package was somehow noticed and pulled off the conveyer belt that is speeding along at multiple kilometers/hr.

          Maybe it had bright neon yellow packaging that said - "DO NOT STEAL. THIS CONTAINS TOP SECRET CONFIDENTIAL AND VERY EXPENSIVE INFORMATION ON VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN"

          Catseye3C Offline
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          Catseye3
          wrote on last edited by Catseye3
          #86

          @taiwan_girl said in Thievery, most foul?:

          Maybe it had bright neon yellow packaging that said - "DO NOT STEAL. THIS CONTAINS TOP SECRET CONFIDENTIAL AND VERY EXPENSIVE INFORMATION ON VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN"

           855555555.
          

          Gonna go out on a limb. I keep getting a vibe that Tuckie is harboring political aspirations of his own.
          If he's relying on promises of support from Trump, his political career will probably be shorter than his dancing career.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • Catseye3C Catseye3

            @taiwan_girl said in Thievery, most foul?:

            Maybe it had bright neon yellow packaging that said - "DO NOT STEAL. THIS CONTAINS TOP SECRET CONFIDENTIAL AND VERY EXPENSIVE INFORMATION ON VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN"

             855555555.
            

            Gonna go out on a limb. I keep getting a vibe that Tuckie is harboring political aspirations of his own.
            If he's relying on promises of support from Trump, his political career will probably be shorter than his dancing career.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #87

            @Catseye3 said in Thievery, most foul?:

            I keep getting a vibe that Tuckie is harboring political aspirations

            Hmm, that wouldn't surprise me at all.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • taiwan_girlT Offline
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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on last edited by
              #88

              @Aqua-Letifer @Rainman

              My point is that to intentionally find one package out of Thousands/millions to open seems far side for me. How would some sorting employee know to look for a specific package? And why would they know about that ONE package when I am sure that Mr Carlson gets hundreds of letters/packages addressed to him every day.

              To me, “ Handling” a package at the sorting factory does not mean that someone is picking it up, reading the address, Examining it, putting it in in box, and then moving to the next. Mail would take months to go from one place to the other if we did that. How many letters could one person sort if things were done that way?

              They are taking a big box/truck of letters/packages, maybe sorting by size and putting them in machines which scan them to further sort. They are not reading each individual addresses. I don’t believe that.

              I think the following MAY have happened:

              I think it is possible/probable that the pickup person may have had something to do with it.

              Or
              The package got got in a machine which broke open the package (This has happened to me before)

              Or
              Mr Carlson tip off someone in UPS to “steal” the package so he could get a news story out of his missing package

              I am not a conspiracy person and while I know Mr Carlson did not say that there was a conspiracy, he seems to kind of imply it.

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              • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on last edited by
                #89

                It's a mysterie

                I was only joking

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  @Aqua-Letifer @Rainman

                  My point is that to intentionally find one package out of Thousands/millions to open seems far side for me. How would some sorting employee know to look for a specific package? And why would they know about that ONE package when I am sure that Mr Carlson gets hundreds of letters/packages addressed to him every day.

                  To me, “ Handling” a package at the sorting factory does not mean that someone is picking it up, reading the address, Examining it, putting it in in box, and then moving to the next. Mail would take months to go from one place to the other if we did that. How many letters could one person sort if things were done that way?

                  They are taking a big box/truck of letters/packages, maybe sorting by size and putting them in machines which scan them to further sort. They are not reading each individual addresses. I don’t believe that.

                  I think the following MAY have happened:

                  I think it is possible/probable that the pickup person may have had something to do with it.

                  Or
                  The package got got in a machine which broke open the package (This has happened to me before)

                  Or
                  Mr Carlson tip off someone in UPS to “steal” the package so he could get a news story out of his missing package

                  I am not a conspiracy person and while I know Mr Carlson did not say that there was a conspiracy, he seems to kind of imply it.

                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
                  #90

                  @taiwan_girl said in Thievery, most foul?:

                  The package got got in a machine which broke open the package (This has happened to me before)

                  UPS said this was basically impossible considering how the package was opened.

                  You're assuming this all had to be premeditated. The most likely and most plausible explanation, based on the actual evidence we can believe, is that some rando opportunist screwed with the package. He saw the delivery address, said, "oh hey!" and removed its contents in one of the few places in the facility that doesn't have cameras. That last has been proven true: there's no video evidence UPS has, according to them, but they publicly reported it being opened and the contents removed.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    @Aqua-Letifer @Rainman

                    My point is that to intentionally find one package out of Thousands/millions to open seems far side for me. How would some sorting employee know to look for a specific package? And why would they know about that ONE package when I am sure that Mr Carlson gets hundreds of letters/packages addressed to him every day.

                    To me, “ Handling” a package at the sorting factory does not mean that someone is picking it up, reading the address, Examining it, putting it in in box, and then moving to the next. Mail would take months to go from one place to the other if we did that. How many letters could one person sort if things were done that way?

                    They are taking a big box/truck of letters/packages, maybe sorting by size and putting them in machines which scan them to further sort. They are not reading each individual addresses. I don’t believe that.

                    I think the following MAY have happened:

                    I think it is possible/probable that the pickup person may have had something to do with it.

                    Or
                    The package got got in a machine which broke open the package (This has happened to me before)

                    Or
                    Mr Carlson tip off someone in UPS to “steal” the package so he could get a news story out of his missing package

                    I am not a conspiracy person and while I know Mr Carlson did not say that there was a conspiracy, he seems to kind of imply it.

                    Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #91

                    @taiwan_girl said in Thievery, most foul?:

                    To me, “ Handling” a package at the sorting factory does not mean that someone is picking it up, reading the address, Examining it, putting it in in box, and then moving to the next. Mail would take months to go from one place to the other if we did that. How many letters could one person sort if things were done that way?

                    Get a seasonal job at a sorting facility and if you make it a week, try to tell me there's no manpower involved. There's a reason sorters are mostly ex-cons and during holidays, people desperate for extra cash.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      It's a mysterie

                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
                      #92

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Thievery, most foul?:

                      It's a mysterie

                      Basically.

                      I don't understand what's so impossible about a mail guy, in 2020, finding a quick opportunity to screw with a package bound for one of the most antagonistic public figures on Fox news. Either that or they didn't even read the damn label and thought the contents were something they could pawn.

                      There's no DNC conspiracy and no one involved is saying there is. But Carlson's account of what happened to the package is backed up entirely by UPS, so guess what, that shit happened, I'm sorry. Rando opportunism seems most plausible.

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        Mik
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #93

                        Agreed, Aqua. Lone wolf.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          Axtremus
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                          OK, lets stipulate that the missing package really is a random event. Tucker just spent two (or is it three by now) segments of his show talking about a random missing package with zero connection to the Bidens — without providing the documents that supposed to back up Tucker’s diatribes against the Bidens, that’s all it is — Tucker Carlson talking about a random missing package.

                          You’d think the guy can do a more thorough research and look at more comprehensive statistics, trends, and patterns concerning missing packages if he were to spend two (or three) segments of his show on the topic. Then maybe poor @Jolly would not have been misled into starting this thread thinking he’s got something on the Bidens.

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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            OK, lets stipulate that the missing package really is a random event. Tucker just spent two (or is it three by now) segments of his show talking about a random missing package with zero connection to the Bidens — without providing the documents that supposed to back up Tucker’s diatribes against the Bidens, that’s all it is — Tucker Carlson talking about a random missing package.

                            You’d think the guy can do a more thorough research and look at more comprehensive statistics, trends, and patterns concerning missing packages if he were to spend two (or three) segments of his show on the topic. Then maybe poor @Jolly would not have been misled into starting this thread thinking he’s got something on the Bidens.

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                            Aqua Letifer
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                            #95

                            @Axtremus said in Thievery, most foul?:

                            Tucker just spent two (or is it three by now) segments of his show talking about a random missing package with zero connection to the Bidens — without providing the documents that supposed to back up Tucker’s diatribes against the Bidens, that’s all it is — Tucker Carlson talking about a random missing package.

                            1. The thumb drive did have info about Hunter Biden on it. So Carlson and his producers claim anyway. You can claim he and his producer are lying about that, but then you'd have to prove that's the case.
                            2. Some of Tucker's diatribes about the Bidens come from Tony Bobulinski, whose testimony was heard by both the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, and Senate Finance Committee. His documents have proven to be authentic.

                            Your bias is once again making you sound ignorant. What you should've gone with was, "Carlson and Bobulinski have provided no evidence of lawbreaking by the Bidens." That's what's true. But there's plenty of documentation that supports the claims about the Bidens and their dealings with China.

                            You talk a lot about more efficient ways to do things, Ax. All I have to do is imagine in my head how a liberal shill would respond to an argument, and then I don't even have to read your response. Why don't we try something else for a change?

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • RainmanR Offline
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                              Rainman
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                              #96

                              OK, I've figured it out.

                              Liberals are creative, which explains how there is no difference between objectivity and mind reading. Completely making things up as a plausible explanation becomes almost equal to fact. Even with mouth closed, that's how their mind works.

                              Conservatives recognize that mind reading is conjecture, therefore for the biased Left mind-reading becomes good enough. I've seen the word "fact" used by liberals, and wonder how they determine facts!

                              What I can't figure out, is that conservatives are equally at fault, as they seem to always look for conspiracies.

                              Obviously, an FBI agent worked at UPS to keep an eye on any suspicious packages, and the FBI agent spotted the Tucker package and grabbed it. I think it is clear the FBI agent knew where he/she could take something without being spotted.

                              You see how I can mix fact and fiction too, plus add in a conspiracy of a corrupt government agency? That means I'm middle of the road, the envy of TG and at the same time the bane of far-left buddy AX.

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                                The coveted middle. The phenotype of objectivity. The envy of us all. Sometimes I try to find fault with both sides and never come to any conclusions, but it takes a genius. Sadly, I'm not up to snuff.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  The coveted middle. The phenotype of objectivity. The envy of us all. Sometimes I try to find fault with both sides and never come to any conclusions, but it takes a genius. Sadly, I'm not up to snuff.

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                                  Loki
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                                  #98

                                  @Horace said in Thievery, most foul?:

                                  The coveted middle. The phenotype of objectivity. The envy of us all. Sometimes I try to find fault with both sides and never come to any conclusions, but it takes a genius. Sadly, I'm not up to snuff.

                                  Until you can create a tribe that is full of middle people it won’t be so coveted. There is very little incentive to objective.

                                  Some argue they are just quiet and all we get to see are the extremes. But if the extremes rule social media they run the show and reality.

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                                    #99

                                    Has the “lost” evidence ever been made public?

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