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Those California Wildfires are NOT Disasters

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    Axtremus
    wrote on 16 Oct 2020, 17:29 last edited by
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    Trump administration denies California’s request for wildfire disaster declaration
    https://www.sfchronicle.com/california-wildfires/article/Trump-administration-denies-California-s-15652221.php

    Yep, not disasters, according to FEMA.

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      brenda
      wrote on 16 Oct 2020, 21:09 last edited by
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      The headline: "Trump overrules FEMA, approves California’s request for wildfire disaster declaration"

      The first line of the article: "President Trump reversed a decision by a federal agency Friday and approved California’s request for a disaster declaration related to six wildfires that broke out in September."

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 16 Oct 2020, 21:15 last edited by
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        96 days.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 16 Oct 2020, 22:40 last edited by
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          Look, California has gotten very bad about not managing their forests and allowing people to develop housing in places where it probably shouldn't go.

          For some, I have as much sympathy as some of those nitwits who build million dollar homes on the seashore, and then expect disaster relief after a hurricane.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            16 Oct 2020, 21:15

            96 days.

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            George K
            wrote on 16 Oct 2020, 22:50 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in Those California Wildfires are NOT Disasters:

            96 days.

            Care to expand?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 16 Oct 2020, 22:51 last edited by
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              Until January 20th, 2021

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                16 Oct 2020, 22:51

                Until January 20th, 2021

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                George K
                wrote on 16 Oct 2020, 22:53 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in Those California Wildfires are NOT Disasters:

                Until January 20th, 2021

                Ah, the Days of Future Passed, not history. The first wildfire was in mid-July. I thought you were talking about those 96 days.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Copper
                  wrote on 16 Oct 2020, 23:11 last edited by
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                  Elections have consequences

                  Hillary promised to destroy the coal industry

                  There are a lot of people around here happy that she didn't. We supply coal to the world and a lot of it passes through Newport News.

                  Sooner or later some democrat will eliminate a lot of jobs in this area. And with them a reliable source of energy that is getting cleaner to use. It even works when there is no wind and it is dark outside.

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                  • C Copper
                    16 Oct 2020, 23:11

                    Elections have consequences

                    Hillary promised to destroy the coal industry

                    There are a lot of people around here happy that she didn't. We supply coal to the world and a lot of it passes through Newport News.

                    Sooner or later some democrat will eliminate a lot of jobs in this area. And with them a reliable source of energy that is getting cleaner to use. It even works when there is no wind and it is dark outside.

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 17 Oct 2020, 01:27 last edited by
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                    @Copper said in Those California Wildfires are NOT Disasters:

                    Elections have consequences

                    Hillary promised to destroy the coal industry

                    There are a lot of people around here happy that she didn't. We supply coal to the world and a lot of it passes through Newport News.

                    Sooner or later some democrat will eliminate a lot of jobs in this area. And with them a reliable source of energy that is getting cleaner to use. It even works when there is no wind and it is dark outside.

                    Coal jobs have dropped under President Trump.

                    I actually dont blame President Trump for this. You can't save coal jobs. Cheaper, cleaner, available energy is there. So, if there is a choice, coal is not at the top of the list for energy companies.

                    (and actually, coal jobs get a lot more "press" than probably they should. From my read, there are about 50000 coal jobs in the US, about 0.04% of the workforce)

                    Forbes article on coal jobs

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                      Copper
                      wrote on 17 Oct 2020, 01:48 last edited by
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                      The front page headlines in the Detroit Free Press every day are about the auto industry.

                      The front page headlines in the Washington post every day are about politics.

                      The front page headlines in the Daily Press (here on the Virginia Peninsula) are about shipping and shipbuilding.

                      I have subscribed to all 3.

                      This is the biggest coal exporting port in North America.

                      There is no such thing as too much press about cars in Detroit.
                      There is no such thing as too much press about politics in DC.
                      There is no such thing as too much press about coal and shipping it in Newport News.

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                      • C Copper
                        17 Oct 2020, 01:48

                        The front page headlines in the Detroit Free Press every day are about the auto industry.

                        The front page headlines in the Washington post every day are about politics.

                        The front page headlines in the Daily Press (here on the Virginia Peninsula) are about shipping and shipbuilding.

                        I have subscribed to all 3.

                        This is the biggest coal exporting port in North America.

                        There is no such thing as too much press about cars in Detroit.
                        There is no such thing as too much press about politics in DC.
                        There is no such thing as too much press about coal and shipping it in Newport News.

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on 17 Oct 2020, 02:07 last edited by
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                        @Copper Sorry, but I am not sure I understand your point of view with your comment?

                        Are you agreeing with my comment or disagreeing?

                        (sorry about that)

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 17 Oct 2020, 03:45 last edited by
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                          Trump reversed his reversal.

                          https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/16/us/trump-california-wildfire-relief.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • J jon-nyc
                            17 Oct 2020, 03:45

                            Trump reversed his reversal.

                            https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/16/us/trump-california-wildfire-relief.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

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                            A Former User
                            wrote on 17 Oct 2020, 06:07 last edited by
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                            he's more wishy washy than Charlie Brown. waaa waaa waaa.

                            To think, he annoints with his sceptor, only those states that are part of the Trump fiefdom. California bad! Then his handlers tell him, "you can't do that! Don't you want to be reelected?" Flip flop hippity hop. Another ride on the chaos wagon. Whoo hoo!!!!

                            Geees, I just don't get it. Especially here. Smart intelligent gents and dames, and still , they refuse to admit the god's honest truth of who this ogre of a human is.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 17 Oct 2020, 10:06 last edited by
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                              Look at the bright side.

                              If he's re-elected, you'll have something to occupy your mind for four more years!

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                17 Oct 2020, 06:07

                                he's more wishy washy than Charlie Brown. waaa waaa waaa.

                                To think, he annoints with his sceptor, only those states that are part of the Trump fiefdom. California bad! Then his handlers tell him, "you can't do that! Don't you want to be reelected?" Flip flop hippity hop. Another ride on the chaos wagon. Whoo hoo!!!!

                                Geees, I just don't get it. Especially here. Smart intelligent gents and dames, and still , they refuse to admit the god's honest truth of who this ogre of a human is.

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                                Larry
                                wrote on 17 Oct 2020, 15:35 last edited by
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                                @nobodyssock said in Those California Wildfires are NOT Disasters:

                                he's more wishy washy than Charlie Brown. waaa waaa waaa.

                                To think, he annoints with his sceptor, only those states that are part of the Trump fiefdom. California bad! Then his handlers tell him, "you can't do that! Don't you want to be reelected?" Flip flop hippity hop. Another ride on the chaos wagon. Whoo hoo!!!!

                                Geees, I just don't get it. Especially here. Smart intelligent gents and dames, and still , they refuse to admit the god's honest truth of who this ogre of a human is.

                                Given that you've been wrong about everything so far, perhaps it's time you considered the possibility that it's YOU that's wrong. Again.... as usual.....

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                                  17 Oct 2020, 06:07

                                  he's more wishy washy than Charlie Brown. waaa waaa waaa.

                                  To think, he annoints with his sceptor, only those states that are part of the Trump fiefdom. California bad! Then his handlers tell him, "you can't do that! Don't you want to be reelected?" Flip flop hippity hop. Another ride on the chaos wagon. Whoo hoo!!!!

                                  Geees, I just don't get it. Especially here. Smart intelligent gents and dames, and still , they refuse to admit the god's honest truth of who this ogre of a human is.

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                                  Copper
                                  wrote on 17 Oct 2020, 20:34 last edited by
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                                  @nobodyssock said in Those California Wildfires are NOT Disasters:

                                  ogre of a human is.

                                  He's occasionally impolite

                                  No question

                                  Anything beyond that is just snowflake pearl clutching

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 17 Oct 2020, 23:40 last edited by Horace
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                                    It's been utterly tedious over the past years to attempt to explain to TDS sufferers that Trump doesn't need to be perfect, or even bereft of reasons to consider him totally icky, to be considered a better political choice than his opposition, by reasonable and decent minds.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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