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  • Doctor PhibesD Online
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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on last edited by
    #31

    Personally, I think an abundance of caution isn't a bad thing.

    Sitting in a house with 35 other people getting drunk on a Saturday night doesn't seem like a smart move to me.

    Then again, I can't abide house parties at the best of time. My small talk generally offends about 75% of any given room.

    I was only joking

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      Appropriate for the thread, I had a store employee show up on Sunday not feeling great. Sent him home immediately. One of the other employees that worked with him on Saturday immediately started having panic attacks and I home. That evening he sent out an email announcing that he has a 103 degree fever. You would have thought it was the end of the world. The employee having panic attacks nearly had to be hospitalized and has had 2 different tests (despite my reminding that person that they needed to wait 4-5 days before there would be enough time for any infection to grow enough to show up on a test) and nearly everyone has been in a panic.

      Out of an abundance of caution, I shut down the store for three days and have repeatedly had to intervene with other employees panic attacks. I have even had to remind people about HIPAA requirements and it’s generally been 72 hours of hell.

      As it turns out, the guy had a 24 hour bug, all tests have come back negative, there has been no symptoms or fever since Sunday.

      So tell me which impacted my life and livelihood more this week, the virus or fear of the virus?

      This panic has to stop.

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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #32

      @LuFins-Dad said in Living In Fear:

      Appropriate for the thread, I had a store employee show up on Sunday not feeling great. Sent him home immediately. One of the other employees that worked with him on Saturday immediately started having panic attacks and I home. That evening he sent out an email announcing that he has a 103 degree fever. You would have thought it was the end of the world. The employee having panic attacks nearly had to be hospitalized and has had 2 different tests (despite my reminding that person that they needed to wait 4-5 days before there would be enough time for any infection to grow enough to show up on a test) and nearly everyone has been in a panic.

      Out of an abundance of caution, I shut down the store for three days and have repeatedly had to intervene with other employees panic attacks. I have even had to remind people about HIPAA requirements and it’s generally been 72 hours of hell.

      As it turns out, the guy had a 24 hour bug, all tests have come back negative, there has been no symptoms or fever since Sunday.

      So tell me which impacted my life and livelihood more this week, the virus or fear of the virus?

      This panic has to stop.

      Man has a point.

      Rebuttal, anyone?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @LuFins-Dad said in Living In Fear:

        Appropriate for the thread, I had a store employee show up on Sunday not feeling great. Sent him home immediately. One of the other employees that worked with him on Saturday immediately started having panic attacks and I home. That evening he sent out an email announcing that he has a 103 degree fever. You would have thought it was the end of the world. The employee having panic attacks nearly had to be hospitalized and has had 2 different tests (despite my reminding that person that they needed to wait 4-5 days before there would be enough time for any infection to grow enough to show up on a test) and nearly everyone has been in a panic.

        Out of an abundance of caution, I shut down the store for three days and have repeatedly had to intervene with other employees panic attacks. I have even had to remind people about HIPAA requirements and it’s generally been 72 hours of hell.

        As it turns out, the guy had a 24 hour bug, all tests have come back negative, there has been no symptoms or fever since Sunday.

        So tell me which impacted my life and livelihood more this week, the virus or fear of the virus?

        This panic has to stop.

        Man has a point.

        Rebuttal, anyone?

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        xenon
        wrote on last edited by xenon
        #33

        @Jolly said in Living In Fear:

        @LuFins-Dad said in Living In Fear:

        Appropriate for the thread, I had a store employee show up on Sunday not feeling great. Sent him home immediately. One of the other employees that worked with him on Saturday immediately started having panic attacks and I home. That evening he sent out an email announcing that he has a 103 degree fever. You would have thought it was the end of the world. The employee having panic attacks nearly had to be hospitalized and has had 2 different tests (despite my reminding that person that they needed to wait 4-5 days before there would be enough time for any infection to grow enough to show up on a test) and nearly everyone has been in a panic.

        Out of an abundance of caution, I shut down the store for three days and have repeatedly had to intervene with other employees panic attacks. I have even had to remind people about HIPAA requirements and it’s generally been 72 hours of hell.

        As it turns out, the guy had a 24 hour bug, all tests have come back negative, there has been no symptoms or fever since Sunday.

        So tell me which impacted my life and livelihood more this week, the virus or fear of the virus?

        This panic has to stop.

        Man has a point.

        Rebuttal, anyone?

        The employee that worked with the sick guy (the panicky guy) - would you have wanted him to come in contact with you before you knew original sick guy (103 fever dude) didn't have Covid?

        Now - the panic attacks obviously seems a bit much, and sucks for him - but you wouldn't have done anything different without the drama, correct? (Except not deal with drama)

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @LuFins-Dad said in Living In Fear:

          Appropriate for the thread, I had a store employee show up on Sunday not feeling great. Sent him home immediately. One of the other employees that worked with him on Saturday immediately started having panic attacks and I home. That evening he sent out an email announcing that he has a 103 degree fever. You would have thought it was the end of the world. The employee having panic attacks nearly had to be hospitalized and has had 2 different tests (despite my reminding that person that they needed to wait 4-5 days before there would be enough time for any infection to grow enough to show up on a test) and nearly everyone has been in a panic.

          Out of an abundance of caution, I shut down the store for three days and have repeatedly had to intervene with other employees panic attacks. I have even had to remind people about HIPAA requirements and it’s generally been 72 hours of hell.

          As it turns out, the guy had a 24 hour bug, all tests have come back negative, there has been no symptoms or fever since Sunday.

          So tell me which impacted my life and livelihood more this week, the virus or fear of the virus?

          This panic has to stop.

          Man has a point.

          Rebuttal, anyone?

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on last edited by
          #34

          @Jolly said in Living In Fear:

          Man has a point.
          Rebuttal, anyone?

          I already asked you how you define "living in fear." No one here advocates for that idea, it's stupid. The problem is a definition discrepancy, not a disagreement of ideals.

          Please love yourself.

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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #35

            Some people have a lot of ideals in their definition.

            What is your definition?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Some people have a lot of ideals in their definition.

              What is your definition?

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
              #36

              @Jolly said in Living In Fear:

              Some people have a lot of ideals in their definition.

              What is your definition?

              You're the one with the sermon, I think the onus is on you to tell us what you mean.

              But yeah okay, sure, why not: there's a difference between making accommodations to keep your family safe from a pandemic, and letting the pandemic define your life for you. In other words, your life's meaning shouldn't be altered by the pandemic. That would be living in fear. So, don't do that.

              As for how that shakes out in terms of particulars, everyone's got their own values and what they're trying to do with themselves, so interpretation needs to be up to the individual.

              And also, look, on top of that, wear a mask and wash your damn hands. It can only help.

              Please love yourself.

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              • X xenon

                @Jolly said in Living In Fear:

                @LuFins-Dad said in Living In Fear:

                Appropriate for the thread, I had a store employee show up on Sunday not feeling great. Sent him home immediately. One of the other employees that worked with him on Saturday immediately started having panic attacks and I home. That evening he sent out an email announcing that he has a 103 degree fever. You would have thought it was the end of the world. The employee having panic attacks nearly had to be hospitalized and has had 2 different tests (despite my reminding that person that they needed to wait 4-5 days before there would be enough time for any infection to grow enough to show up on a test) and nearly everyone has been in a panic.

                Out of an abundance of caution, I shut down the store for three days and have repeatedly had to intervene with other employees panic attacks. I have even had to remind people about HIPAA requirements and it’s generally been 72 hours of hell.

                As it turns out, the guy had a 24 hour bug, all tests have come back negative, there has been no symptoms or fever since Sunday.

                So tell me which impacted my life and livelihood more this week, the virus or fear of the virus?

                This panic has to stop.

                Man has a point.

                Rebuttal, anyone?

                The employee that worked with the sick guy (the panicky guy) - would you have wanted him to come in contact with you before you knew original sick guy (103 fever dude) didn't have Covid?

                Now - the panic attacks obviously seems a bit much, and sucks for him - but you wouldn't have done anything different without the drama, correct? (Except not deal with drama)

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on last edited by
                #37

                Now - the panic attacks obviously seems a bit much, and sucks for him - but you wouldn't have done anything different without the drama, correct? (Except not deal with drama)

                Dealing with the drama became the job for three days. Being closed for three days is no big deal. Most of my work is done over the phone and by email these days. I could have-should have been just fine working from home. Instead, most of that time was unproductive. Not just for me, but for the rest of the staff as well.

                The Brad

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #38

                  BTW, Ronna McDaniel (RNC Chair) is giving her first interview since coming down with COVID. She got it from a family member.

                  That's how a lot of people get it.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    BTW, Ronna McDaniel (RNC Chair) is giving her first interview since coming down with COVID. She got it from a family member.

                    That's how a lot of people get it.

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #39

                    @Jolly said in Living In Fear:

                    BTW, Ronna McDaniel (RNC Chair) is giving her first interview since coming down with COVID. She got it from a family member.

                    That's how a lot of people get it.

                    Which is why we're keeping our distance from family members who swear up and down they're staying safe while they continue to work in bars, unmasked, and event arenas, unmasked. If that's living in fear I don't give a shit, find someone else to browbeat because I'm not changing my decision.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      Appropriate for the thread, I had a store employee show up on Sunday not feeling great. Sent him home immediately. One of the other employees that worked with him on Saturday immediately started having panic attacks and I home. That evening he sent out an email announcing that he has a 103 degree fever. You would have thought it was the end of the world. The employee having panic attacks nearly had to be hospitalized and has had 2 different tests (despite my reminding that person that they needed to wait 4-5 days before there would be enough time for any infection to grow enough to show up on a test) and nearly everyone has been in a panic.

                      Out of an abundance of caution, I shut down the store for three days and have repeatedly had to intervene with other employees panic attacks. I have even had to remind people about HIPAA requirements and it’s generally been 72 hours of hell.

                      As it turns out, the guy had a 24 hour bug, all tests have come back negative, there has been no symptoms or fever since Sunday.

                      So tell me which impacted my life and livelihood more this week, the virus or fear of the virus?

                      This panic has to stop.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #40

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Living In Fear:

                      I have even had to remind people about HIPAA requirements and it’s generally been 72 hours of hell.

                      None of you are subject to HIPPA laws. That's one less thing to fear.

                      You were warned.

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        BTW, Ronna McDaniel (RNC Chair) is giving her first interview since coming down with COVID. She got it from a family member.

                        That's how a lot of people get it.

                        Doctor PhibesD Online
                        Doctor PhibesD Online
                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #41

                        @Jolly said in Living In Fear:

                        BTW, Ronna McDaniel (RNC Chair) is giving her first interview since coming down with COVID. She got it from a family member.

                        That's how a lot of people get it.

                        Well, my daughter's in school two days a week, and with friends two days a week, and my son's working at a department store, so if I get it the chances are it will be from them.

                        I was only joking

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Living In Fear:

                          I have even had to remind people about HIPAA requirements and it’s generally been 72 hours of hell.

                          None of you are subject to HIPPA laws. That's one less thing to fear.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #42

                          @jon-nyc said in Living In Fear:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Living In Fear:

                          I have even had to remind people about HIPAA requirements and it’s generally been 72 hours of hell.

                          None of you are subject to HIPPA laws. That's one less thing to fear.

                          I am.

                          Next...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @Jolly said in Living In Fear:

                            BTW, Ronna McDaniel (RNC Chair) is giving her first interview since coming down with COVID. She got it from a family member.

                            That's how a lot of people get it.

                            Which is why we're keeping our distance from family members who swear up and down they're staying safe while they continue to work in bars, unmasked, and event arenas, unmasked. If that's living in fear I don't give a shit, find someone else to browbeat because I'm not changing my decision.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by Jolly
                            #43

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Living In Fear:

                            @Jolly said in Living In Fear:

                            BTW, Ronna McDaniel (RNC Chair) is giving her first interview since coming down with COVID. She got it from a family member.

                            That's how a lot of people get it.

                            Which is why we're keeping our distance from family members who swear up and down they're staying safe while they continue to work in bars, unmasked, and event arenas, unmasked. If that's living in fear I don't give a shit, find someone else to browbeat because I'm not changing my decision.

                            Sounds to me like your browbeating yourself...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @jon-nyc said in Living In Fear:

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Living In Fear:

                              I have even had to remind people about HIPAA requirements and it’s generally been 72 hours of hell.

                              None of you are subject to HIPPA laws. That's one less thing to fear.

                              I am.

                              Next...

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                              #44

                              @Jolly said in Living In Fear:

                              @jon-nyc said in Living In Fear:

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Living In Fear:

                              I have even had to remind people about HIPAA requirements and it’s generally been 72 hours of hell.

                              None of you are subject to HIPPA laws. That's one less thing to fear.

                              I am.

                              Next...

                              I wasn't talking to you.

                              Next...

                              You were warned.

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                                Loki
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                                #45

                                There is no question that I have seen so many Covid aware compliant people subtlety let their guard down since April where they were completely locked down and lysoling everything and washing their hands at every turn to allowing different people in at different times to their bubble.

                                If they don’t return to April shutdown mode we will see spreader events like what we witnessed last week.

                                Knowing that what to do you bet?

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @Jolly said in Living In Fear:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Living In Fear:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Living In Fear:

                                  I have even had to remind people about HIPAA requirements and it’s generally been 72 hours of hell.

                                  None of you are subject to HIPPA laws. That's one less thing to fear.

                                  I am.

                                  Next...

                                  I wasn't talking to you.

                                  Next...

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #46

                                  @jon-nyc said in Living In Fear:

                                  @Jolly said in Living In Fear:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Living In Fear:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Living In Fear:

                                  I have even had to remind people about HIPAA requirements and it’s generally been 72 hours of hell.

                                  None of you are subject to HIPPA laws. That's one less thing to fear.

                                  I am.

                                  Next...

                                  I wasn't talking to you.

                                  Next...

                                  "None" is pretty inclusive.

                                  Next...

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Living In Fear:

                                    @Jolly said in Living In Fear:

                                    BTW, Ronna McDaniel (RNC Chair) is giving her first interview since coming down with COVID. She got it from a family member.

                                    That's how a lot of people get it.

                                    Which is why we're keeping our distance from family members who swear up and down they're staying safe while they continue to work in bars, unmasked, and event arenas, unmasked. If that's living in fear I don't give a shit, find someone else to browbeat because I'm not changing my decision.

                                    Sounds to me like your browbeating yourself...

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #47

                                    @Jolly said in Living In Fear:

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Living In Fear:

                                    @Jolly said in Living In Fear:

                                    BTW, Ronna McDaniel (RNC Chair) is giving her first interview since coming down with COVID. She got it from a family member.

                                    That's how a lot of people get it.

                                    Which is why we're keeping our distance from family members who swear up and down they're staying safe while they continue to work in bars, unmasked, and event arenas, unmasked. If that's living in fear I don't give a shit, find someone else to browbeat because I'm not changing my decision.

                                    Sounds to me like your browbeating yourself...

                                    Sure.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @jon-nyc said in Living In Fear:

                                      @Jolly said in Living In Fear:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Living In Fear:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Living In Fear:

                                      I have even had to remind people about HIPAA requirements and it’s generally been 72 hours of hell.

                                      None of you are subject to HIPPA laws. That's one less thing to fear.

                                      I am.

                                      Next...

                                      I wasn't talking to you.

                                      Next...

                                      "None" is pretty inclusive.

                                      Next...

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #48

                                      @Jolly said in Living In Fear:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Living In Fear:

                                      @Jolly said in Living In Fear:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Living In Fear:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Living In Fear:

                                      I have even had to remind people about HIPAA requirements and it’s generally been 72 hours of hell.

                                      None of you are subject to HIPPA laws. That's one less thing to fear.

                                      I am.

                                      Next...

                                      I wasn't talking to you.

                                      Next...

                                      "None" is pretty inclusive.

                                      Next...

                                      Yep. It referred to his whole shop.

                                      Next..,

                                      You were warned.

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        2 Timothy 1:7
                                        7 For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.

                                        Be prudent, but do not let COVID make you live your life in fear.

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                                        brenda
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                                        #49

                                        @Jolly said in Living In Fear:

                                        2 Timothy 1:7
                                        7 For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.

                                        Be prudent, but do not let COVID make you live your life in fear.

                                        I'm not. What do you see to indicate people are living in fear of COVID? I realize I live in a rural small town, so that skews what I will see locally. What are you seeing where you live, Jolly?

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by Jolly
                                          #50

                                          I'm pretty rural, too. But just seeing how some people act around here, seeing what CNN blasts out everyday, seeing how many people thought the end times occurred when Trump waved off of a balcony, seeing some of the things even written on this board...Well, it seems that some people are scared spitless.

                                          That's no way to live life. The fact is that a person can only mitigate exposure to corona. You cannot escape it. Chances are very good, without a vaccine, you're going to get it.

                                          So life your life. Be prudent, but do not live in fear.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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