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Interesting visual from 538.com

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  • CopperC Copper

    Trump people don't like to reveal their intentions.

    Because they might get their heads bashed in

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    @Copper said in Interesting visual from 538.com:

    Trump people don't like to reveal their intentions.

    Because they might get their heads bashed in

    To win however you need Trump people plus what are affectionally known as RHINOs. The latter group will have had to accept a lot in terms of their view of the Presidency in order to flip the same lever again. I don’t see it and place greater odds on a clear Biden win pretty close to election night.

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      The thread was more about the visual display of quantitative information rather than the current state of polling.

      The ribbon segments are proportional to electoral votes, and are placed in order of safe R to lean R to lean D to safe D. In the middle is the line to care about. Kind of cool.

      As for the polling I think we’re all more cautious this year than 2016, but it’s hard to imagine the polling companies learned and changed nothing. 2018 polling was quite good.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • CopperC Copper

        Trump people don't like to reveal their intentions.

        Because they might get their heads bashed in

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        @Copper said in Interesting visual from 538.com:

        Trump people don't like to reveal their intentions.

        I agree with this. I think that the actual vote will be closer than the polls are saying right now.

        Even so, I do think that VP Biden has the edge.

        But, yes, it is a cool way to graph it.

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          Cool visualization. Also, the GOP should be concerned that Texas is becoming less and less red over the years. If that state turns (not now, but maybe by 2028?), you won't see another Republican president, maybe ever again.

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            On a purple Texas.

            https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/the_new_coffee_room/viewtopic.php?p=1108947#p1108947

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              What's "NE3"?

              I wonder why DC is the most liberal state (well, it's not a state - but what's the word for states + DC?). Is there a particular explanation for that?

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              • KlausK Klaus

                What's "NE3"?

                I wonder why DC is the most liberal state (well, it's not a state - but what's the word for states + DC?). Is there a particular explanation for that?

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                @Klaus I think because Eashington DC just a city. And cities are usually democrat very strongly.

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                  So you think it has nothing (or little) to do with DC being the place where the government is?

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                    It's funny - the idea that the City of Westminster would be the most staunchly Labour constituency in the UK is hilarious.

                    I was only joking

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                      Klaus, DC is the most heavily african American of any voting district. It’s heavy african American population dates back to the founding when 25% of the city were enslaved people. After the civil war many freedmen flocked there too. By 1900 it had the highest percentage of blacks of any city in the US.

                      As for Nebraska and Maine, unlike all the other states, they don’t vote all of their electoral votes for a single candidate. They give two votes to the popular vote winner statewide, and give each congressional district a single vote. (Note that that formula 2 senators + x congressmen is how the number of electoral votes per state are decided to begin with)

                      One of the NE regions, Omaha and suburbs, is in play for Biden. Obama won it at least once. In Maine, one is more rural and will go for Trump, while the coastal region will go Biden.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Klaus, DC is the most heavily african American of any voting district. It’s heavy african American population dates back to the founding when 25% of the city were enslaved people. After the civil war many freedmen flocked there too. By 1900 it had the highest percentage of blacks of any city in the US.

                        As for Nebraska and Maine, unlike all the other states, they don’t vote all of their electoral votes for a single candidate. They give two votes to the popular vote winner statewide, and give each congressional district a single vote. (Note that that formula 2 senators + x congressmen is how the number of electoral votes per state are decided to begin with)

                        One of the NE regions, Omaha and suburbs, is in play for Biden. Obama won it at least once. In Maine, one is more rural and will go for Trump, while the coastal region will go Biden.

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                        #15

                        Thanks, Jon!

                        @jon-nyc said in Interesting visual from 538.com:

                        NE regions

                        Ah, so this is what NE1, NE2 etc. are - "regions". Never heard that before.

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                          NE1, NE2, and NE3 refer to the three "congressional districts" in the state of Nebraska.
                          Nebraska is a state that allows the "splitting" of electoral college votes, hence it's broken down into "districts" in the graphics @jon-nyc posted.
                          See https://www.270towin.com/content/split-electoral-votes-maine-and-nebraska/

                          (Otherwise, "NE" as an acronym in the context of North American geography usually refers to the New England region.)

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                            538's 'snake chart' now has Georgia leaning Biden, estimating 54% chance that George's electoral votes will go to Biden. Not sure how long that will last.

                            Ohio was also leaning Biden for a while, but now leans Trump.

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