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NPR says don't disinfect your groceries

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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
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    https://www.opb.org/news/article/npr-no-you-dont-need-to-disinfect-your-groceries-but-heres-how-to-shop-safely/

    Well NPR can kiss my Midwestern Cornfed Ass. I think this is really bad advice. Disinfecting things that come in is quite easy. You have no idea who touched your groceries in stocking, picking the order, who went by and coughed on them - nothing.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      I quit listening to National Communistic Radio some time ago.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • markM Offline
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        mark
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        "— then, she says, your risk is probably “very, very low.”"

        probably? What kind of science is that? lol

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
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          #4

          I agree it’s a relatively low risk but for me it’s my largest risk. So yeah, I mitigate it. Easy to do.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • MikM Away
            MikM Away
            Mik
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            Me too, brother. It's an easy thing to do.

            Today is grocery day here. Deliveries from Kroger and Market Wagon. They just leave them on the porch.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              jon-nyc
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              #6

              I have them bring them to my garage, which is basement level. All dry goods just get quarantined a few days in the basement. Fresh stuff we bring upstairs and wash or repackage.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • L Offline
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                Loki
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                There are worse things one can do with their time. I just wouldn’t waste a lot of money on sanitizers and wouldn’t let my anxiety levels rise every time an “alien” person or thing came near me.

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                • MikM Away
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                  Mik
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                  We don't waste any money on sanitizers, not that they would be wasted anyway. MFR sold Oxivir wipes and so we have lots of them left over from her career. Lots of cleaning products period.

                  I hope your seemingly cavalier attitude does not come back to bite you.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • 89th8 Offline
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                    We also wipe down all groceries before storing away. Doesn’t take long and helps mitigate the risk to one of the only “public” contact points we have. I also am glad I am able to go at 4am when there’s almost no other customers there. Still wear mask/gloves.

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                    • MikM Mik

                      We don't waste any money on sanitizers, not that they would be wasted anyway. MFR sold Oxivir wipes and so we have lots of them left over from her career. Lots of cleaning products period.

                      I hope your seemingly cavalier attitude does not come back to bite you.

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                      Loki
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                      @Mik said in NPR says don't disinfect your groceries:

                      We don't waste any money on sanitizers, not that they would be wasted anyway. MFR sold Oxivir wipes and so we have lots of them left over from her career. Lots of cleaning products period.

                      I hope your seemingly cavalier attitude does not come back to bite you.

                      I’m definitely more aware and prudent but I am not going to become an alarmist germ phobe. I’ve met many of them and I could never live that way. I look forward to resumption of a normal life as soon as possible. This will pass and hopefully before it devastates our way of life.

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                      • markM Offline
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                        Youngest has been making grocery store runs for us every two weeks. She brings them onto the porch that is actually a fully enclosed "airlock" lol.

                        We let them sit for 24 hours (even frozen and dairy if it's cold enough outside)

                        I wipe everything with a wipeable surface with disinfectant wipes. I open all boxed good if the have inner bags and dispose of the boxes outside.

                        Fresh veggies will stay out there for 72 hours.

                        We wiped all canned goods down again before putting away.

                        I am always going to do this moving forward. It just makes sense even for other infectious diseases like the flu, common cold, etc.

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                        • MikM Away
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                          Mik
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                          #12

                          @Loki The thing about 'germphobes' as you put it is the nature of this disease and what we know about who is at risk. There are reasons for folks we know to be extra vigilant. Your characterization of them is pretty condescending. If you either don't see yourself at risk or you are willing to accept whatever level of risk you have, fine. That's your choice. But it doesn't apply to everyone as a matter of common sense.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            @Loki The thing about 'germphobes' as you put it is the nature of this disease and what we know about who is at risk. There are reasons for folks we know to be extra vigilant. Your characterization of them is pretty condescending. If you either don't see yourself at risk or you are willing to accept whatever level of risk you have, fine. That's your choice. But it doesn't apply to everyone as a matter of common sense.

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                            @Mik said in NPR says don't disinfect your groceries:

                            @Loki The thing about 'germphobes' as you put it is the nature of this disease and what we know about who is at risk. There are reasons for folks we know to be extra vigilant. Your characterization of them is pretty condescending. If you either don't see yourself at risk or you are willing to accept whatever level of risk you have, fine. That's your choice. But it doesn't apply to everyone as a matter of common sense.

                            Actually it was a note to self as I find myself engaging in behaviors I want to lose as soon as possible and not become OCD about every theoretical risk. I am not going to be 30 feet away from a runner or biker for example or worry about Covid floating in the air for 30 minute and walking into a “cloud”. I am aware that if we don’t get out soon other people will start dying and/or living with mental health issues in potentially greater numbers than Covid.

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                              @Mik said in NPR says don't disinfect your groceries:

                              @Loki The thing about 'germphobes' as you put it is the nature of this disease and what we know about who is at risk. There are reasons for folks we know to be extra vigilant. Your characterization of them is pretty condescending. If you either don't see yourself at risk or you are willing to accept whatever level of risk you have, fine. That's your choice. But it doesn't apply to everyone as a matter of common sense.

                              Actually it was a note to self as I find myself engaging in behaviors I want to lose as soon as possible and not become OCD about every theoretical risk. I am not going to be 30 feet away from a runner or biker for example or worry about Covid floating in the air for 30 minute and walking into a “cloud”. I am aware that if we don’t get out soon other people will start dying and/or living with mental health issues in potentially greater numbers than Covid.

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                              Aqua Letifer
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                              @Loki said in NPR says don't disinfect your groceries:

                              @Mik said in NPR says don't disinfect your groceries:

                              @Loki The thing about 'germphobes' as you put it is the nature of this disease and what we know about who is at risk. There are reasons for folks we know to be extra vigilant. Your characterization of them is pretty condescending. If you either don't see yourself at risk or you are willing to accept whatever level of risk you have, fine. That's your choice. But it doesn't apply to everyone as a matter of common sense.

                              Actually it was a note to self as I find myself engaging in behaviors I want to lose as soon as possible and not become OCD about every theoretical risk. I am not going to be 30 feet away from a runner or biker for example or worry about Covid floating in the air for 30 minute and walking into a “cloud”. I am aware that if we don’t get out soon other people will start dying and/or living with mental health issues in potentially greater numbers than Covid.

                              It's the same kind of learning curve that every single infectious disease expert has to come to grips with as a function of their profession. You want to stay up at night? Look into prions.

                              The rest of the population is just new to this part of reality as we rarely brush up against it. You have to find out what works best for you as you ride the balance between keeping yourself safe and letting fear paralyze your life.

                              Please love yourself.

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                                Prions are fun. Can't kill 'em.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  Oh, but they can kill you!

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • 89th8 89th

                                    We also wipe down all groceries before storing away. Doesn’t take long and helps mitigate the risk to one of the only “public” contact points we have. I also am glad I am able to go at 4am when there’s almost no other customers there. Still wear mask/gloves.

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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    @89th Where are you going at 4AM?!

                                    The Brad

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                                      Giant... open 24/7 near me!

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