What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?

[George K]

@taiwan_girl said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

I recommend this podcast if you want to learn more about Watergate.

A couple of years ago, when I had lunch with @jon-nyc , he commented, iirc, that "All The President's Men" is one of those books that didn't age well.

I tried to read it, but gave up about halfway through. Too many irrelevant and forgotten names. It struck me as being a book that could have been about ⅓ of its length and conveyed just as much information. I wonder if there's a Readers's Digest condensed version, LOL.

[taiwan_girl]

@George-K They do mention that book in the podcast along with the reporters, but the podcast (seems to me to) focuses some of the politicians involved, and some of the important (but not well known) people. For example, I did not know that the Watergate investigation started out with the banking committee because the burgarlers were paid with crisp new USD $100 bills and one of them also had mysterious deposits into his account from a Mexican bank.

But, there are a lot of names given that sometimes I have to pause and re-listen so the I can make sure I understand who is who. LOL

[89th]

@taiwan_girl thanks for the recommendation! Just downloaded it and will start listening soon.

[taiwan_girl]

Listening to Slow Burn - Season 2, which is about the PResident Clinton impeachment. Quite interesting for me. I only knew the headlines and did not really know the story. It was obviously big news all over the world so I definitely heard about it then.

Slow Burn Podcast - Season 2 - Clinton Impeachment

Couple of interesting things a former co-worker of President Clinton said in an interview:
"People did not vote for President Clinton because of his morals. They knew he did not have any. They voted for him because of what they wanted him to do." (Sound familiar? LOL)

and
"People always said that President Clinton is very empathetic. I admire him, but he is not empathetic. He is like the highway reflector signs. He understands what you are saying and feeling and reflects that back to you. But when you pass the highway reflector sign and look back, you see that it is just a hunk of dark metal" (In a way , this probably describes a lot of politicians)

I do not think that his case for impeachment was as clear as for President Nixon. I believe it was quite obvious there. For President Clinton, I am not sure, but for me, I would probably say 55-60% yes he should have been impeached to 40-45% no.

Listening to it, I am amazed (actually, I guess not. It is something that I think I really knew) about the double standard that each party has.

For example 1:
1990's - President sued by civil suit
Democrat President and other Democrats - "A President should not have to worry about civil suit while in office. "
Republics - "No President is above the law"

2017's - President sued by civil suit
Republic President and other Republics - "A President should not have to worry about civil suit while in office. "
Democrats - "No President is above the law"

Example 2:
Special investigator appointed by congress. Investigator goes way beyond his initial scope

1990's -
Democrats - "that is terrible what he is doing. He was given one thing to look at and now it is a witch hunt!! It is a waste of time and money!!"
Republics - "It is important that he goes wherever necessary, even if it is different from what he originally started to do"

2017's -
Republics- "that is terrible what he is doing. He was given one thing to look at and now it is a witch hunt!! It is a waste of time and money!!"
Democrats - "It is important that he goes wherever necessary, even if it is different from what he originally started to do"

There are other examples that are parallels to today. Not too surprising that people either forget or ignore history. LOL

Anyway, the podcast is recommended. Slow burn has other seasons that I will listen to after this.

[Horace]

@George-K said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

It struck me as being a book that could have been about ⅓ of its length and conveyed just as much information.

Sam Harris once mentioned that all his books and neary all such books of popular science or history or philosophy, have a central idea that would be best presented in about 50 pages. The filler is just what is required by the publishing industry.

[Horace]

@taiwan_girl said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

"People always said that President Clinton is very empathetic. I admire him, but he is not empathetic. He is like the highway reflector signs. He understands what you are saying and feeling and reflects that back to you. But when you pass the highway reflector sign and look back, you see that it is just a hunk of dark metal" (In a way , this probably describes a lot of politicians)

I like that way of describing it.

Actually, expecting 'empathy' to be a meaningful compass for a politician has always struck me as not particularly well thought out. One can empathise with individuals and that is all well and good but empathising with multiple groups with opposing interests, each of whom comprised of real people feeling real feelings, is really only a matter of choosing which side to take. This gets back to the fetishization of the feelings of those who lay claim to politically important identities. It boils down to the notion that the feelings of those without an identity are not sympathetic (not real feelings) while the feelings of those with an identity, are.

[Loki]

I highly recommend this one #218.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-sense-with-sam-harris/id733163012

[89th]

@89th said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

@taiwan_girl thanks for the recommendation! Just downloaded it and will start listening soon.

I couldn’t get into season 1 about Nixon. Very interesting at first, but kind of jumps around a bit. I’m more of a linear thinker.

[taiwan_girl]

@89th said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

@89th said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

@taiwan_girl thanks for the recommendation! Just downloaded it and will start listening soon.

I couldn’t get into season 1 about Nixon. Very interesting at first, but kind of jumps around a bit. I’m more of a linear thinker.

You may not like the season 2 version on President Clinton impeachment. It does follow a timeline, but branches out in each episode to go "in deep" with some of the key participants, so the timelines may overlap like in Season 1.

[89th]

Thanks. I have it in my library, might be easier to get into if I have a regular commute again (when I do most podcast listening). I literally tried Season 1 while at the dentist, so I wasn’t too focused

[taiwan_girl]

Listening to Season 4 of Slow Burn

(Extra comment - Season three was about the death of two hip hop/rap artists about 20 years ago; Tupac Shakur and Mr. Big. Dont have any background about that, so it was that interesting for me. Did not finish it).

Season 4 for is about a guy named David Duke, who was an American Nazi who almost won the governor of Louisana about 25 years ago.

@jolly I am sure you are familiar with him. I would be interested to hear your "perspective" as you probably "1st person" remember it.

David Duke Story

[George K]

[taiwan_girl]

@George-K lol

Remind me of the joke about some one who was complaining about having to queue for a printer.

“Why can’t someone invent something that when you type, it is instantly printed with out having to wait or walk to a printer?”

“It is called a typewriter!!”

[Friday]

@George-K
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[bachophile]

I'm listening to ANATOPOD - The Anatomy Podcast | HISTORY OF DISSECTION OF THE CADAVER on Podbean, check it out!

Maybe a little gruesome for you sensitive types. But if the history of anatomy interests you, this is a podcast by a very dear friend. We’ve collaborated on a number of papers and projects.

It’s good fun, if u can tolerate the Australian accent.

[taiwan_girl]

Listening to Short Creek

It is about an offshoot sect of the Mormon Church - The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS). Very interesting for me. Kind of a cult in my opinion. 10 part series, each part about 45-50 minutes.. Focuses on the history of FLDS coming up to the present. Well worth a listen.

"Short Creek is a community on the Utah/Arizona border divided by much more than a state line. On one side are fundamentalist, polygamous Mormons who believe the town should be run by God—and his prophet. On the other are ex-believers who want democracy—and the right to believe (or not believe) as they want. When the prophet, Warren Jeffs, goes to prison for sex crimes, the community has to face its painful past...and struggle to define its future."

[Horace]

Lemme resurrect this thread. I’ve been away from podcasts for a while, but this title drew me. “The optimistic leftist”, a recent episode of The Vox podcast called “The Weeds”. It’s hosted by Matt Yglesias, a guy who was seen as a dependable leftist for a while, but more recently has forged a more centrist identity. (Which is to say he has the balls to reject some of the more nuts messaging of his political side.)

He interviewed a guy named Ruy Teixeira, the eponymous optimistic leftist. Never heard of him? Yeah, me neither. But he’s written books. Lots of them. Lots of academic credibility and the whole nine yards.

The first thing they noted was that the 2020 victory wasn’t what it could have been. Way closer than it needed to be. They lost Latino share to Trump, and to a lesser extent, they lost black share.

The conversation could not be had between two white males, but they are both nominally minorities, so they can think critically out loud. God bless them both. I attempted a couple years ago to present the idea on WTF that Trump is winning the minority vote. I was excoriated by the Steve Millers and the Piques and the Ninas of the world. What I underestimated was just how fringe the perspectives of such people are. Such privileged white people have so little in common with those they seek to protect.

Pardon my continuing resentment of those people, but there was a time I thought maybe they should be taken seriously. Now I understand better how fringe they are.

[bachophile]

If u want an enjoyable 35 minutes or so, listen to episode 7 of cautionary tales. Number fever.

Basically how some companies, (in this episode, Pepsi and Hoover for example) got themselves into terribly deep doodoo by using marketing schemes which went, well, way south.

Just a public service announcement.

https://podcasts.apple.com/il/podcast/cautionary-tales-with-tim-harford/id1484511465?i=1000516376033

[Horace]

Finally got back to listening to Sam Harris. He's charging 15 bucks a month to subscribe to his podcast! Lucky I am an old supporter and have apparently been grandfathered in, without any obligation to pay anything. 15 bucks a month for a once-a-week podcast is a little excessive.

Today he talked to a tech guy who was recently fired from Apple for a single sentence in a memoir he wrote 5 years ago. Something about how most women in the bay area were vapid posers, in a passage where he was extolling the virtues of his current girlfriend. A comparison was brought up to Dr Dre, current Apple employee, and the stuff he's written in his rap lyrics, about women. Lol.

This is a good conversation to listen to, for those so surrounded by progressive pop culture that they don't realize how crazy fringe the ideological mob has become, as it becomes drunker and drunker with its cancelation power.

[Loki]

@horace said in What are you listening to - Podcast Edition?:

Finally got back to listening to Sam Harris. He's charging 15 bucks a month to subscribe to his podcast! Lucky I am an old supporter and have apparently been grandfathered in, without any obligation to pay anything. 15 bucks a month for a once-a-week podcast is a little excessive.

Today he talked to a tech guy who was recently fired from Apple for a single sentence in a memoir he wrote 5 years ago. Something about how most women in the bay area were vapid posers, in a passage where he was extolling the virtues of his current girlfriend. A comparison was brought up to Dr Dre, current Apple employee, and the stuff he's written in his rap lyrics, about women. Lol.

This is a good conversation to listen to, for those so surrounded by progressive pop culture that they don't realize how crazy fringe the ideological mob has become, as it becomes drunker and drunker with its cancelation power.

You can get most of Sam for free via his podcast called “making sense”. He just clips the ends.

I listened to the Apple story. I think Sam is correct but I question why they hired him in the first place. He has established his capacity to write tell all books about hi-tech companies he has worked for and I would have vetoed him for that alone.

But they were aware of his book and hired him anyone and then 2000 Apple employees protest his alleged misogyny.

What is fvcking hilarious about that is that when the book first came out NPR named it book of the year!!