NYT publishes Trump tax returns
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@Jolly said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:
Then why doesn't the vaunted Grey Lady do a story on something we don't know, like what Hunter did to earn millions from the Russians, Chinese and the Ukranians?
Didn’t the senate investigate this? Did they turn up something or not?
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I think the $400MM personally guaranteed debt to god-knows-whom is one of the big deals that will fall out of this. Though of course the media will focus on the trivial total income tax paid.
There’s a reason you can’t get a security clearance when you’re heavily in debt.
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I wonder if his reported income was low enough for him to get the $1200 Covid check?
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@jon-nyc said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:
This tells us what we always knew about him, he’s better at playing successful mogul than actually being one.
Which is of course why he didn't want to release them. It's never been about legality. It's about his bullshit.
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Well the idea that he was hiding specific tax fraud in his returns never made sense because the Feds obviously had them.
But hiding them from bankers that might have received very different information is certainly in play here. Seems more likely than not given that he was able to get any loans at all.
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I still think the big news is the national security implications of nearly a half billion in personal debt.
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Also all kinds of ironies in the fact that The Apprentice kept him afloat for many years.
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@jon-nyc said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:
I still think the big news is the national security implications of nearly a half billion in personal debt.
His supporters won't likely care much - they're going to say he's sticking it to the man, missing the obvious point that he's actually the man, at least for now. His creditors might, as you say.
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No the average voter won’t think much about the implications, that’s why the press will play the fact that he paid less federal income tax than your average secretary.
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Forgot - saw this last night:
Obama Wrote Trump a $73 Million Check:
The New York Times’ big exposé on President Trump’s tax returns flags some things that may be dodgy but mainly it just confirms what everybody (including Trump) has always said — there are a lot of loopholes in the tax code that a savvy operator can exploit. Whose fault is that? The system long predates Trump’s political career. For me, one part of the story really stands out, though: “To turn that long arc of failure into a giant refund check,” says the Times, Trump “relied on some deft accounting footwork and an unwitting gift from an unlikely source — Mr. Obama.”
Huh? Obama’s stimulus policies led to the Obama IRS writing a check to Trump for $73 million. The Times explains that a business loss can be used as a coupon that can be redeemed against a gain in another business.
Until 2009, those coupons could be used to wipe away taxes going back only two years. But that November, the window was more than doubled by a little-noticed provision in a bill Mr. Obama signed as part of the Great Recession recovery effort. Now business owners could request full refunds of taxes paid in the prior four years, and 50 percent of those from the year before that.
Mr. Trump had paid no income taxes in 2008. But the change meant that when he filed his taxes for 2009, he could seek a refund of not just the $13.3 million he had paid in 2007, but also the combined $56.9 million paid in 2005 and 2006, when “The Apprentice” created what was likely the biggest income tax bite of his life.
The records reviewed by The Times indicate that Mr. Trump filed for the first of several tranches of his refund several weeks later, in January 2010. That set off what tax professionals refer to as a “quickie refund,” a check processed in 90 days on a tentative basis, pending an audit by the I.R.S.
His total federal income tax refund would eventually grow to $70.1 million, plus $2,733,184 in interest. He also received $21.2 million in state and local refunds, which often piggyback on federal filings.
Trump may have to pay back that money; an IRS audit and an investigation by the congressional Joint Committee on Taxation are pending. But if he doesn’t, it looks like an alternate headline of the Times story could have been: “Obama Policies Created a $73 Million Tax Refund for Trump.” I trust the Times will next be sending out formal letters of apology to those of us who argued Obama’s stimulus policies were unnecessary, wasteful, and bound to be abused.
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@jon-nyc said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:
I still think the big news is the national security implications of nearly a half billion in personal debt.
May be the Lincoln Project will make a “call at 3am” ad around this, with the call coming from one of Trump’s creditor demanding a certain veto or executive order.
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The US tax code is written by a big group of sleazy rich people. Why would it be a surprise that it benefits sleazy rich people like DJT?
Still, he's apparently continuing to claim it's all false, and he pays 10's of millions in tax.
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Look for imprecise language in the denials. Because he can’t dodge payroll tax for his employees, sales taxes, property taxes, etc.
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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The NYT is saying he appears to be calling employee SS and taxes his taxes.
Debt's a funny thing - I could live the rest of my life on a tiny proportion of what he owes, and yet he's the one with the golden toilet and shower combination.
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@George-K said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:
hops in DeLorean
sets dial back to 1995
hits 88 mph
finds 1995 self
"In 25 years you will bang more chicks than George Michael and make more money than Donald Trump."
high fives
hops back in DeLoreanLol
