For Every 100 Girls -- There are This Many Boys:

[Horace]

Well I am against for profit prisons and have never encountered a single person who is for them. If Trump personally found reason to enhance them then shame on him.

[Doctor Phibes]

The issue appears to be that the justice system just loves locking up lots of Americans. I think that blaming this on lefties is a bit much. There are plenty of lefties in the EU - lots more, and a lot more lefty than in America, in fact.

I know, I know, locking people up is supposed to prevent crime, just as giving everybody lots of guns prevents homicide. The problem is, the statistics don't appear to support this conclusion.

[Copper]

There are a lot more who should be locked up.

We are nowhere near locking up enough bad people who do bad things.

How many Nobel Laureates come out of US prisons?

[Doctor Phibes]

See what I mean?

[Horace]

We have an issue with diminishing returns for imprisoning people. Too many people born assuming they'll likely go to prison eventually, and not caring much. So we need to look elsewhere for solutions.

[taiwan_girl]

To me, it comes down to if prison is to punish or to "rehibilitate". The US cannot seem to make up its mind. So, it swings from one side to the other, and it ends up being the worst of both sides.

(NOTE - before anybody says anything, I do think that there are some people who are just evil and probably cannot be rehabilitate. But, I also think that alot of people come OUT of prison a worse person than when they went IN)

[Copper]

It is to protect.

Rehabilitation is fine, but mostly I think the danger should be managed.

[Jolly]

There's no such thing as a "for-profit prison". All prisons cost the State money. The question is whether the prison is staffed and administered by the state or whether those functions are taken over by a for-profit company.

Cost is usually the determining factor. And if the State decided to go the private route, the contract is bid out, just like any other.

Not to say that politics does not exist, just that I doubt very seriously that incarceration numbers are based on profit.

[Larry]

@Doctor-Phibes said in For Every 100 Girls -- There are This Many Boys::

@Horace said in For Every 100 Girls -- There are This Many Boys::

It turns out that nurturing cultures of lawlessness has consequences. Now hmmm which political side does all the nurturing...

It also turns out that if you run a for-profit prison system, you end up with a lot more people in prison.

Now, hmmmm which side supports for-profit prisons?

Prisons, state run or for profit, are not the ones who convict, not the ones who set sentences, and are not the ones in charge of early release/parole. Absolutely nothing a for profit prison does affects the number of people in prison, how long they'll be there, or when they'll get out. So the "for profit prisons bad" narrative is all hat no cattle.

[LuFins Dad]

@Doctor-Phibes said in For Every 100 Girls -- There are This Many Boys::

Regarding the last number on that list....

Wow! I knew our law enforcement was better than other countries, I just had no idea how much better!

Is it because US Police is so good or because other countries police is so bad?

A little of both?

[Doctor Phibes]

A little of neither, I suspect.

[LuFins Dad]

@Axtremus said in For Every 100 Girls -- There are This Many Boys::

[@Copper]
Men are no darned good.
[/@Copper]

FIFYNNTTM

Is that just those that are assigned as men at birth or those that transition to men? Are those that are assigned male but transition to female no darn good, still? Does a person assigned female but transitions to male become no darned good? Are they even even worse since they are choosing to become no darned good,