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  • RainmanR Rainman

    @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

    There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

    OK, Jon. Here's the deal.
    If Biden wins, you can pummel some of us daily for 1 year, and we will type "you were right, Jon!" every day in response.

    If Trump wins, you buy that Vette and wear a MAGA hat for one week per month, with the Vette top down.
    And, you have to drive to wherever Phibes lives, and listen to him on any subject for an hour.

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    Doctor Phibes
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    @Rainman said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

    @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

    There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

    OK, Jon. Here's the deal.

    And, you have to drive to wherever Phibes lives, and listen to him on any subject for an hour.

    What did I do to have to talk to Jon for a freaking hour?

    I was only joking

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      @Rainman said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

      @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

      There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

      OK, Jon. Here's the deal.

      And, you have to drive to wherever Phibes lives, and listen to him on any subject for an hour.

      What did I do to have to talk to Jon for a freaking hour?

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      @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

      @Rainman said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

      @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

      There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

      OK, Jon. Here's the deal.

      And, you have to drive to wherever Phibes lives, and listen to him on any subject for an hour.

      What did I do to have to talk to Jon for a freaking hour?

      Punishment.😄

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • RainmanR Rainman

        @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

        There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

        OK, Jon. Here's the deal.
        If Biden wins, you can pummel some of us daily for 1 year, and we will type "you were right, Jon!" every day in response.

        If Trump wins, you buy that Vette and wear a MAGA hat for one week per month, with the Vette top down.
        And, you have to drive to wherever Phibes lives, and listen to him on any subject for an hour.

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        jon-nyc
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        @Rainman said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

        @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

        There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

        OK, Jon. Here's the deal.
        If Biden wins, you can pummel some of us daily for 1 year, and we will type "you were right, Jon!" every day in response.

        If Trump wins, you buy that Vette and wear a MAGA hat for one week per month, with the Vette top down.
        And, you have to drive to wherever Phibes lives, and listen to him on any subject for an hour.

        NFW Lol

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • George KG George K

          @LuFins-Dad said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

          Nate was saying a week or so before the election

          That link is from November 8 - Election day.Screen Shot 2020-09-18 at 5.53.32 PM.png

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          @George-K said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

          @LuFins-Dad said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

          Nate was saying a week or so before the election

          That link is from November 8 - Election day.Screen Shot 2020-09-18 at 5.53.32 PM.png

          https://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast

          The Brad

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

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            @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

            There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

            Yep. LOL

            A friend once quit work to start a precious metals trading company. He had a model that was going to work and give great returns. I invested a small amount with him, knowing (and figuring) that I could lose it, but that was okay. After a couple of years, I got my exact amount of money back, but did not make any. He admitted that the model was constantly being updates to fit past history, but that was not enough to predict the future. LOL

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              #23

              There’s two candidates, the elections only happen once every 4 years.

              There’s a shitload of prognosticators. If you have enough of them, a portion of them will have a perfect prediction record through sheer chance.

              We see the patterns we want to see.

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              • George KG George K

                @LuFins-Dad said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                Nate was saying a week or so before the election

                That link is from November 8 - Election day.Screen Shot 2020-09-18 at 5.53.32 PM.png

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                @George-K said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                @LuFins-Dad said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                Nate was saying a week or so before the election

                That link is from November 8 - Election day.Screen Shot 2020-09-18 at 5.53.32 PM.png

                Trump had a 30% chance and won. A 30% chance is a very good chance.

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                • X xenon

                  There’s two candidates, the elections only happen once every 4 years.

                  There’s a shitload of prognosticators. If you have enough of them, a portion of them will have a perfect prediction record through sheer chance.

                  We see the patterns we want to see.

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                  @xenon said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                  There’s two candidates, the elections only happen once every 4 years.

                  There’s a shitload of prognosticators. If you have enough of them, a portion of them will have a perfect prediction record through sheer chance.

                  We see the patterns we want to see.

                  Not too difficult when it's 50/50. 😆

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • X xenon

                    There’s two candidates, the elections only happen once every 4 years.

                    There’s a shitload of prognosticators. If you have enough of them, a portion of them will have a perfect prediction record through sheer chance.

                    We see the patterns we want to see.

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                    jon-nyc
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                    @xenon said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                    There’s two candidates, the elections only happen once every 4 years.

                    There’s a shitload of prognosticators. If you have enough of them, a portion of them will have a perfect prediction record through sheer chance.

                    We see the patterns we want to see.

                    It’s not even that. It’s post-diction not pre-diction. They curve fit with full hindsight and choose coefficients and variables until all previous results are matched then pat themselves on the back for a model that “predicted” all previous elections.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      #27

                      The 2012 version:

                      https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/the_new_coffee_room/univ-col-boulder-t78027.html

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @Rainman said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                        @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                        There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

                        OK, Jon. Here's the deal.
                        If Biden wins, you can pummel some of us daily for 1 year, and we will type "you were right, Jon!" every day in response.

                        If Trump wins, you buy that Vette and wear a MAGA hat for one week per month, with the Vette top down.
                        And, you have to drive to wherever Phibes lives, and listen to him on any subject for an hour.

                        NFW Lol

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                        @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                        @Rainman said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                        @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                        There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

                        OK, Jon. Here's the deal.
                        If Biden wins, you can pummel some of us daily for 1 year, and we will type "you were right, Jon!" every day in response.

                        If Trump wins, you buy that Vette and wear a MAGA hat for one week per month, with the Vette top down.
                        And, you have to drive to wherever Phibes lives, and listen to him on any subject for an hour.

                        NFW Lol

                        I'll talk to you about jazz. You can stop listening to that Rachmaninoff piano wanking you love so much and get a bit of soul in you.

                        I was only joking

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          The 2012 version:

                          https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/the_new_coffee_room/univ-col-boulder-t78027.html

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                          @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                          The 2012 version:

                          https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/the_new_coffee_room/univ-col-boulder-t78027.html

                          Vince's (RIP) link is 404'ed.

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                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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