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  • JollyJ Jolly

    Not bad for 95% negative coverage...

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/broadcast-coverage-trump-95-negative-new-study-says/

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    @Jolly said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

    Not bad for 95% negative coverage...

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/broadcast-coverage-trump-95-negative-new-study-says/

    First sentence. Very first:

    If you think almost all of the “news” coverage about President Trump, you’re right, according to a new study..

    .......what?

    Please love yourself.

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      "“The Harvard team found . . . Fox News coverage also leaned to the negative, but only slightly: 52 percent negative to 48 percent positive.”

      Shall I point out that this is fair and. . . hmmm, what was that word?

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        Nate Silver tweeted yesterday “Guess which polling outfit has Trump leading nationally”?

        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Nate Silver tweeted yesterday “Guess which polling outfit has Trump leading nationally”?

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          @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

          Nate Silver tweeted yesterday “Guess which polling outfit has Trump leading nationally”?

          <past performance is no guarantee of future results>

          How did Nate's predictions work out, oh, about 4 years ago?

          https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

            Nate Silver tweeted yesterday “Guess which polling outfit has Trump leading nationally”?

            <past performance is no guarantee of future results>

            How did Nate's predictions work out, oh, about 4 years ago?

            https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

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            @George-K said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

            @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

            Nate Silver tweeted yesterday “Guess which polling outfit has Trump leading nationally”?

            <past performance is no guarantee of future results>

            How did Nate's predictions work out, oh, about 4 years ago?

            https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

            In all fairness, Nate was saying a week or so before the election that something was off with the numbers and Democrats should be somewhat careful. He then got lambasted...

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              @George-K said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

              @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

              Nate Silver tweeted yesterday “Guess which polling outfit has Trump leading nationally”?

              <past performance is no guarantee of future results>

              How did Nate's predictions work out, oh, about 4 years ago?

              https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

              In all fairness, Nate was saying a week or so before the election that something was off with the numbers and Democrats should be somewhat careful. He then got lambasted...

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              @LuFins-Dad said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

              Nate was saying a week or so before the election

              That link is from November 8 - Election day.Screen Shot 2020-09-18 at 5.53.32 PM.png

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                Nate Silver tweeted yesterday “Guess which polling outfit has Trump leading nationally”?

                Rasmussen is consistent. So an uptick like at 53% vs mid to high 40’s for a long time has meaning especially in the brutal week Trump seems to have suffered.

                Also the political scientist from Stonybrook who’s model predicted Trump at 80% chance in 2016 has it at over 90% this time. It is based on primary data from 1918 and has been right I think 90% of the time.

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                  @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                  Nate Silver tweeted yesterday “Guess which polling outfit has Trump leading nationally”?

                  Rasmussen is consistent. So an uptick like at 53% vs mid to high 40’s for a long time has meaning especially in the brutal week Trump seems to have suffered.

                  Also the political scientist from Stonybrook who’s model predicted Trump at 80% chance in 2016 has it at over 90% this time. It is based on primary data from 1918 and has been right I think 90% of the time.

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                  @Loki said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                  the political scientist from Stonybrook who’s model predicted Trump at 80% chance in 2016 has it at over 90% this time

                  I remember seeing this guy a while ago, but I thought he had backtracked his prediction saying that Trump will lose based on economy, etc.

                  Got a link for me?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Never mind. Found it:

                    https://patch.com/new-york/threevillage/stony-brook-professor-predicts-president-trump-landslide-win

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • George KG George K

                        @Loki said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                        the political scientist from Stonybrook who’s model predicted Trump at 80% chance in 2016 has it at over 90% this time

                        I remember seeing this guy a while ago, but I thought he had backtracked his prediction saying that Trump will lose based on economy, etc.

                        Got a link for me?

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                        @George-K said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                        @Loki said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                        the political scientist from Stonybrook who’s model predicted Trump at 80% chance in 2016 has it at over 90% this time

                        I remember seeing this guy a while ago, but I thought he had backtracked his prediction saying that Trump will lose based on economy, etc.

                        Got a link for me?

                        https://patch.com/new-york/threevillage/stony-brook-professor-predicts-president-trump-landslide-win

                        http://primarymodel.com/

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

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                          @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                          There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

                          OK, Jon. Here's the deal.
                          If Biden wins, you can pummel some of us daily for 1 year, and we will type "you were right, Jon!" every day in response.

                          If Trump wins, you buy that Vette and wear a MAGA hat for one week per month, with the Vette top down.
                          And, you have to drive to wherever Phibes lives, and listen to him on any subject for an hour.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                            There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

                            On that, I would agree.

                            OTOH, something must be going on in some of the internal polls. I see some changes being made in both campaigns...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                              There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

                              On that, I would agree.

                              OTOH, something must be going on in some of the internal polls. I see some changes being made in both campaigns...

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                              @Jolly said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                              I see some changes being made in both campaigns...

                              Do tell...

                              <insert popcorn gif here: ________________>

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Well, whatever state the campaign was in at 6pm is no longer relevant.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                                  There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

                                  OK, Jon. Here's the deal.
                                  If Biden wins, you can pummel some of us daily for 1 year, and we will type "you were right, Jon!" every day in response.

                                  If Trump wins, you buy that Vette and wear a MAGA hat for one week per month, with the Vette top down.
                                  And, you have to drive to wherever Phibes lives, and listen to him on any subject for an hour.

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                                  @Rainman said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                                  There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

                                  OK, Jon. Here's the deal.

                                  And, you have to drive to wherever Phibes lives, and listen to him on any subject for an hour.

                                  What did I do to have to talk to Jon for a freaking hour?

                                  I was only joking

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                                    @Rainman said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                                    @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                                    There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

                                    OK, Jon. Here's the deal.

                                    And, you have to drive to wherever Phibes lives, and listen to him on any subject for an hour.

                                    What did I do to have to talk to Jon for a freaking hour?

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                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                                    @Rainman said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                                    @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                                    There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

                                    OK, Jon. Here's the deal.

                                    And, you have to drive to wherever Phibes lives, and listen to him on any subject for an hour.

                                    What did I do to have to talk to Jon for a freaking hour?

                                    Punishment.😄

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • RainmanR Rainman

                                      @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                                      There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

                                      OK, Jon. Here's the deal.
                                      If Biden wins, you can pummel some of us daily for 1 year, and we will type "you were right, Jon!" every day in response.

                                      If Trump wins, you buy that Vette and wear a MAGA hat for one week per month, with the Vette top down.
                                      And, you have to drive to wherever Phibes lives, and listen to him on any subject for an hour.

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                                      @Rainman said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                                      There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

                                      OK, Jon. Here's the deal.
                                      If Biden wins, you can pummel some of us daily for 1 year, and we will type "you were right, Jon!" every day in response.

                                      If Trump wins, you buy that Vette and wear a MAGA hat for one week per month, with the Vette top down.
                                      And, you have to drive to wherever Phibes lives, and listen to him on any subject for an hour.

                                      NFW Lol

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                                        Nate was saying a week or so before the election

                                        That link is from November 8 - Election day.Screen Shot 2020-09-18 at 5.53.32 PM.png

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                                        @George-K said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                                        Nate was saying a week or so before the election

                                        That link is from November 8 - Election day.Screen Shot 2020-09-18 at 5.53.32 PM.png

                                        https://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast

                                        The Brad

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

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                                          @jon-nyc said in Trump jumps in Rasmussen Poll:

                                          There’s a bunch of guys that every cycle. They invent an overfitted model and brag about its post-dictive abilities and assume it must be predictive.

                                          Yep. LOL

                                          A friend once quit work to start a precious metals trading company. He had a model that was going to work and give great returns. I invested a small amount with him, knowing (and figuring) that I could lose it, but that was okay. After a couple of years, I got my exact amount of money back, but did not make any. He admitted that the model was constantly being updates to fit past history, but that was not enough to predict the future. LOL

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