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"Cuties"

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  • George KG George K

    @Klaus said in "Cuties":

    everything that's legal is fair game, and any bans/cancelllation/... should be restricted to the most extreme cases.

    I agree.

    (haven't seen the film, so I can't comment on whether it's extreme or not)

    Would you consider Larry's description of the telephone incident "extreme?"

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    Klaus
    wrote on last edited by Klaus
    #30

    @George-K said in "Cuties":

    Would you consider Larry's description of the telephone incident "extreme?"

    I don't know. I'd have to actually watch it.

    But in any case, many of us are annoyed about how meaningless the word "racism" has become since it has been applied to way too many things that are not actually racist. It would be wise to not make the same mistake with "pedophilia". In both cases it is tempting to misuse the great power this word gives to the speaker.

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      #31

      It is OK to censor child pornography.

      Even if it creates some false-positive racism accusations.

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      • CopperC Copper

        It is OK to censor child pornography.

        Even if it creates some false-positive racism accusations.

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        Klaus
        wrote on last edited by
        #32

        @Copper said in "Cuties":

        It is OK to censor child pornography.

        Yes. It is also OK to object to racism. But both should actually be true. There's no evidence that this movie contains any explicit material that would qualify as pornography, child or otherwise.

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          Doctor Phibes
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          #33

          Imagine if they started censoring movies that glorified and/or glamourised violence and/or criminal behaviour.

          Netflix would be out of business in a week.

          I was only joking

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          • KlausK Offline
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            Klaus
            wrote on last edited by Klaus
            #34

            OK, I watched the trailer now. Calling this "child pornography" is just ridiculous and insults the victims of actual child pornography.

            Link to video

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              Rainman
              wrote on last edited by
              #35

              Well, California just enacted a change in the law, where what used to be a misdemeanor if 4-years between the "couple" is now 10 years. I don't know: is that part of the slippery slope?

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                Copper
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                #36

                There are various definitions of pornography.

                This is within some of them.

                Maybe not in others.

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                • CopperC Copper

                  There are various definitions of pornography.

                  This is within some of them.

                  Maybe not in others.

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                  Klaus
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #37

                  @Copper said in "Cuties":

                  There are various definitions of pornography.
                  This is within some of them.

                  Then surely you should be able to explain one definition according to which this is pornography.

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                    Copper
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #38

                    OK, I'll give you 2 definitions wiki and google

                    The phrase "I know it when I see it" is a colloquial expression by which a speaker attempts to categorize an observable fact or event, although the category is subjective or lacks clearly defined parameters. The phrase was used in 1964 by United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart to describe his threshold test for obscenity in Jacobellis v. Ohio.[1][2] In explaining why the material at issue in the case was not obscene under the Roth test, and therefore was protected speech that could not be censored, Stewart wrote:

                    I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description ["hard-core pornography"], and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that.[3]

                    https://www.google.com/search?q=pornography+definition&rlz=1C1SQJL_enUS883US883&oq=pornography&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j0j69i57j0.3163j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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                    • KlausK Klaus

                      OK, I watched the trailer now. Calling this "child pornography" is just ridiculous and insults the victims of actual child pornography.

                      Link to video

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                      Larry
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #39

                      @Klaus said in "Cuties":

                      OK, I watched the trailer now. Calling this "child pornography" is just ridiculous and insults the victims of actual child pornography.

                      Link to video

                      If that was as bad as it got I would agree with you. Unfortunately, that trailer was so well cherry picked that it makes it look like a Disney movie.

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        ||

                        Link to video||

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Horace
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                          #41

                          Youtube comments seem unambiguous.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Larry
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                            ||spoiler||

                            Link to video||spoiler||

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