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What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha

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  • J Jolly
    7 Sept 2020, 15:49

    @Loki said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

    Looks like this stupid piece didn’t even survive a week. Another In the endless line of duds. Look at how many fell for it though simply because they wanted to. The so called bias experts caught in their own do loop.

    Oh, the guys at The Atlantic say they have more.

    Drip. Drip. Drip.

    That's the plan.

    Which would be fun if Trump wins reelection. Imagine the raspberry heard around the world.

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    Klaus
    wrote on 7 Sept 2020, 16:26 last edited by
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    @Jolly said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

    Which would be fun if Trump wins reelection.

    I, too, would enjoy to see certain heads explode in that case. But I would also enjoy to see another set of heads explode if Biden wins. I can't quite decide yet which one would be more fun.

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      Larry
      wrote on 7 Sept 2020, 16:36 last edited by
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      You wont see any heads exploding if Biden wins. Youll just see the real Americans trying to salvage the nation.

      You'll also see the beginning of the end of the United States.

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      • K Klaus
        7 Sept 2020, 16:26

        @Jolly said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

        Which would be fun if Trump wins reelection.

        I, too, would enjoy to see certain heads explode in that case. But I would also enjoy to see another set of heads explode if Biden wins. I can't quite decide yet which one would be more fun.

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        Horace
        wrote on 7 Sept 2020, 18:06 last edited by
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        @Klaus said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

        @Jolly said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

        Which would be fun if Trump wins reelection.

        I, too, would enjoy to see certain heads explode in that case. But I would also enjoy to see another set of heads explode if Biden wins. I can't quite decide yet which one would be more fun.

        Take a tour through WTF and TNCR and tell the the personality types that are more unstable around whichever politician happens to be elected. Or extrapolate that to pop culture in general. Or even better yet, eschew the common tack of equalizing both political sides and explore the systematic psychological differences between the two. Self selected groups should be fruitful for such explorations.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • H Horace
          7 Sept 2020, 18:06

          @Klaus said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

          @Jolly said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

          Which would be fun if Trump wins reelection.

          I, too, would enjoy to see certain heads explode in that case. But I would also enjoy to see another set of heads explode if Biden wins. I can't quite decide yet which one would be more fun.

          Take a tour through WTF and TNCR and tell the the personality types that are more unstable around whichever politician happens to be elected. Or extrapolate that to pop culture in general. Or even better yet, eschew the common tack of equalizing both political sides and explore the systematic psychological differences between the two. Self selected groups should be fruitful for such explorations.

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          Loki
          wrote on 7 Sept 2020, 18:47 last edited by
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          @Horace said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

          @Klaus said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

          @Jolly said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

          Which would be fun if Trump wins reelection.

          I, too, would enjoy to see certain heads explode in that case. But I would also enjoy to see another set of heads explode if Biden wins. I can't quite decide yet which one would be more fun.

          Take a tour through WTF and TNCR and tell the the personality types that are more unstable around whichever politician happens to be elected. Or extrapolate that to pop culture in general. Or even better yet, eschew the common tack of equalizing both political sides and explore the systematic psychological differences between the two. Self selected groups should be fruitful for such explorations.

          The only truly terrible President in my lifetime was Jimmy Carter. Too young to remember Gerald Ford. It’s just the oppressiveness of having to listen to facist idealists that bothers me and why I would like to see them lose.

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            Mik
            wrote on 8 Sept 2020, 04:26 last edited by
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            https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-came-dover-after-my-wife-was-killed-fighting-isis-ncna1239425?fbclid=IwAR0IIEwOqdntpNU0PjL5tqD_mvYzF83azN6qqjQeNGCegVNUZQgDnp8RJPk

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • G George K
              7 Sept 2020, 01:50

              There was a lot of "We defend anonymous sources, just look at Deep Throat!" talk today.

              OK, fine.

              The fact that Deep Throat was in jeopardy on a legal basis is exactly like Goldberg's comment about "mean tweets."

              Exactly.

              Again, I'm not saying that what these people are saying is false. I'm saying that the medium they used to say it has a shaky history of honesty, and that is shown in the "weather" claim they purported. I'm also saying that Jennifer Griffin's "confirmation" is simply rehashing what the same people said to The Atlantic.

              How about some independent reporting, like...Bolton?

              And, for the record, as I've said, Trump's a boor.

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on 8 Sept 2020, 05:07 last edited by
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              @George-K said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

              There was a lot of "We defend anonymous sources, just look at Deep Throat!" talk today.

              Deep Throat told them where to look. But they still produced their own hard evidence. That's a huge difference.

              Please love yourself.

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              • A Aqua Letifer
                8 Sept 2020, 05:07

                @George-K said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

                There was a lot of "We defend anonymous sources, just look at Deep Throat!" talk today.

                Deep Throat told them where to look. But they still produced their own hard evidence. That's a huge difference.

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                George K
                wrote on 8 Sept 2020, 11:32 last edited by
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                @Aqua-Letifer said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

                That's a huge difference.

                Exactly. That kind of comparison is weak. Do the "legwork," Mr. "Journalist," don't report what unnamed people tell you.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Loki
                  wrote on 9 Sept 2020, 02:25 last edited by
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                  What a bizarre world we live in:

                  https://www.foxnews.com/media/john-bolton-denies-atlantic-report-trump-soliders-france

                  Atlantic, where is your promised follow up?

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 9 Sept 2020, 02:42 last edited by
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                    So, do we believe John Bolton? If so, then we should believe the things he said also in his book, no?

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                    • T taiwan_girl
                      9 Sept 2020, 02:42

                      So, do we believe John Bolton? If so, then we should believe the things he said also in his book, no?

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                      Loki
                      wrote on 9 Sept 2020, 02:58 last edited by
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                      @taiwan_girl said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

                      So, do we believe John Bolton? If so, then we should believe the things he said also in his book, no?

                      Like I said bizarre. But the Atlantic has its work cut out for it.

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                        Loki
                        wrote on 12 Sept 2020, 20:59 last edited by
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                        I thought The Atlantic was going to follow up on this? Did anyone see it or did they hit and run?

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