What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha

[jon-nyc]

I was very specific. I said they confirmed the reporting. Because Trump likes to pretend that “anonymous source” means a reporter made up whatever he wants.

[jon-nyc]

Military Times poll has Biden with a small lead over Trump among active duty soldiers.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/08/31/as-trumps-popularity-slips-in-latest-military-times-poll-more-troops-say-theyll-vote-for-biden/

I wonder when the last time the troops leaned toward the Democrat. Probably Johnson in 64 or maybe Truman in 48.

[Jolly]

Shucks, no group of people in Washington ever made up anything before, especially for political gain.

GMAFB.

[George K]

@jon-nyc said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

I was very specific. I said they confirmed the reporting.

IOW, "Confirming the reporting" ≠ "Confirming the statements of the reporting."

Did I get that right?

[Copper]


[Larry]

I give up. You Trump bashers win. Don't anybody vote for him. Vote for the guy who's 6 months away from a fucking nursing home who will raise your taxes, destroy the economy, turn us into another Venezuela, and allow anarchists and Marxists to take over.

Far better to have a bunch of thugs using Maoist methods order you to bow and swear allegiance to their cause than to have someone who will stand up for us. After all, the bastard said something impolite.

DAMN I wonder about some of you people.

[Kincaid]

@George-K said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

In other words, all that likely happened is that the same sources who claimed to Jeffrey Goldberg, with no evidence, that Trump said this went to other outlets and repeated the same claims — the same tactic that enabled MSNBC and CBS to claim they had “confirmed” the fundamentally false CNN story about Trump Jr. receiving advanced access to the WikiLeaks archive.

I remember the good old days when Dan Rather quit because "just because the evidence is fake doesn't mean it isn't true".

[George K]

@Kincaid said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

I remember the good old days when Dan Rather quit because "just because the evidence is fake doesn't mean it isn't true".

[Kincaid]

Start with the font, I guess!

[George K]

There was a lot of "We defend anonymous sources, just look at Deep Throat!" talk today.

OK, fine.

The fact that Deep Throat was in jeopardy on a legal basis is exactly like Goldberg's comment about "mean tweets."

Exactly.

Again, I'm not saying that what these people are saying is false. I'm saying that the medium they used to say it has a shaky history of honesty, and that is shown in the "weather" claim they purported. I'm also saying that Jennifer Griffin's "confirmation" is simply rehashing what the same people said to The Atlantic.

How about some independent reporting, like...Bolton?

And, for the record, as I've said, Trump's a boor.

[Mik]

He is. But his polices are better aligned with my thinking.

[George K]

@Mik said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

He is. But his polices are better aligned with my thinking.

And there, in a nutshell, is the problem with today's politics.

Personality is conflated with policy.

I'm not sure I could stand to be in the same room with the man, though I could stand to be in the same room with The President of The United States (who happens to be Donald Trump).

As that great line from "Band of Brothers" said, "You salute the rank, not the man."

POTUS 44 won a significant part of the electorate because of his personality and the fact that he was half-white. As Joe Biden said, he was "clean and articulate."

[Rainman]

"Much Ado About Nothing"

[Larry]

Want to know why this story came out? To keep people from talking about the real news story that day - Joe Biden and his son have both been formally named in a criminal case making it's way through Ukrainian court regarding the illegal extortion by Biden that ended up with the prosecutor being fired.

[Jolly]

Or to get people to ignore some recent very positive accomplishments by the Administration in the ME.

Here, idiots! Look at this shiny thing!

[Loki]

Looks like this stupid piece didn’t even survive a week. Another In the endless line of duds. Look at how many fell for it though simply because they wanted to. The so called bias experts caught in their own do loop.

[Jolly]

@Loki said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

Looks like this stupid piece didn’t even survive a week. Another In the endless line of duds. Look at how many fell for it though simply because they wanted to. The so called bias experts caught in their own do loop.

Oh, the guys at The Atlantic say they have more.

Drip. Drip. Drip.

That's the plan.

Which would be fun if Trump wins reelection. Imagine the raspberry heard around the world.

[Klaus]

@Jolly said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

Which would be fun if Trump wins reelection.

I, too, would enjoy to see certain heads explode in that case. But I would also enjoy to see another set of heads explode if Biden wins. I can't quite decide yet which one would be more fun.

[Larry]

You wont see any heads exploding if Biden wins. Youll just see the real Americans trying to salvage the nation.

You'll also see the beginning of the end of the United States.

[Horace]

@Klaus said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

@Jolly said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

Which would be fun if Trump wins reelection.

I, too, would enjoy to see certain heads explode in that case. But I would also enjoy to see another set of heads explode if Biden wins. I can't quite decide yet which one would be more fun.

Take a tour through WTF and TNCR and tell the the personality types that are more unstable around whichever politician happens to be elected. Or extrapolate that to pop culture in general. Or even better yet, eschew the common tack of equalizing both political sides and explore the systematic psychological differences between the two. Self selected groups should be fruitful for such explorations.