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NPR interviews author of book who says "Looting is OK."

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  • HoraceH Horace

    Then how is the conversation not centered around ways to defeat that narrative? That narrative is the fuel of the fire, is it not?

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    @Horace said in NPR interviews author of book who says "Looting is OK.":

    Then how is the conversation not centered around ways to defeat that narrative? That narrative is the fuel of the fire, is it not?

    I think it beats out Trump's possible contest of the election results as the biggest threat to stability we face today. But there's no beating it, I don't think. There aren't enough people out there trying to figure out where the truth is. You have lefties ginning up incidents that could get violent, experimenting with anarchy, and you have Trump's side doing whatever you might call it, and a whole bunch of people in the middle paying attention to how the tide's moving. But I don't think enough people are seeking facts, I think that's done.

    You got any ideas? All I have is trying to call bullshit where one sees it, and as a fallback plan buying ammo and making sure your passport's still valid.

    Please love yourself.

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      Well no I think the racism narrative has been carefully cultivated as the most powerful cultural cudgel. You won't get people who see it as their path to power, not to use it. They spent their lives forging that weapon, they're not just going to hang it over the hearth and enjoy a nice quiet peaceful life. I don't see any way that it won't remain the most important cultural idea in America for the rest of our lives. But like you, we can all call BS when we see it. I mean, to the extent that we can do so without sacrificing our economic lives.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Apparently Joe Biden has finally decided to oppose looting.

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          @Mik said in NPR interviews author of book who says "Looting is OK.":

          @Aqua: Bullshit. Neither are OK. But declaring one a racist evil when facts say otherwise, which is often the case with police violence, does not make it so. There is no similar defense for looting.

          It's not a perfect equality thing like Horace mentioned, but I'm saying that where your outrage lies says a lot about you as a person. The "looting is okay" crap is really troubling. But I find "well, the people who died from police—quick let's find out if they were on drugs or have a record so I don't have to care about their deaths and take a look at that LOOTING" interesting and weird.

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          @Aqua-Letifer said in NPR interviews author of book who says "Looting is OK.":

          "well, the people who died from police—quick let's find out if they were on drugs or have a record so I don't have to care about their deaths and take a look at that LOOTING" interesting and weird.

          No need to be quick, as long as justice is served in the end.

          Have we found a guy yet who was shot and was clean?

          No need to look that up, I still wouldn't care all that much. I'm really more interested in finding the police department that has a policy that says it is OK to shoot unarmed people. Without that we don't have much to be fixed.

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          • CopperC Copper

            Apparently Joe Biden has finally decided to oppose looting.

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            @Copper said in NPR interviews author of book who says "Looting is OK.":

            Apparently Joe Biden has finally decided to oppose looting.

            Yeah because after the GOPconvention guess what the winning narrative is?

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              CNN referred to it (looting) as an "uncompensated shopping experience".

              The mentality of what the guy said can be seen all through the Left/democrat mindset. It's going to take a civil war to get rid of them.

              But we WILL get rid of them.

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                Apparently the book is more about legitimizing violence in general, not just looting.

                https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/09/there-no-defense-looting/615925/

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  The author fails to realize that without the capitalist system there won't BE any things to 'have things for free'.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      @jon-nyc you made me LOL.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Matt Taibbi review excerpts.

                        Style-wise, In Defense of Looting continues the impressive streak of the woke movement having yet to produce a single readable piece of literature.

                        These and countless other details make In Defense of Looting more cringe-worthy in its own way than a Sean Hannity flag-and-mugshot insta-book could ever hope to be, but what makes it a perfect manifesto for the woke era is its pathos. Adherents to this theology are characterized by a boundless, almost Trumpian capacity for self-pity, even as they’re advocating setting you on fire. They can make wrapping fishwiches sound like digging coal in Matewan, being deprived of a smartphone like being whipped by Centurions, and they matter because everyone, including especially Democratic Party politicians, is afraid of the fallout that comes with telling them to shut the fuck up. So their “ideas” spread like cancer.

                        https://taibbi.substack.com/p/dont-steal-this-book

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                          Yes I like how he puts "ideas" in quotes. As I've often said, all our culture's dumbest ideas are around race, and for exactly the reason he states. Because everybody is terrified of pointing out the stupidity.

                          Education is extremely important.

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