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About character, integrity, and being racist

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  • LarryL Offline
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    Larry
    wrote on last edited by Larry
    #1

    I have always admired Herschell Walker for being strong in his faith, a man of the highest integrity and character, level headed, just an all around great man. He doesn't say things he doesn't mean.

    It's been said here that Trump is lacking in character and integrity, and a racist. I'm about to utterly destroy those claims. Being black, a man of impeccable integrity, a man of uncompromised character, and a man who has been a close, personal fried of Trump, no one is more qualified to judge Trump on these points. And I will take Herschell Walkers opinion over anyone else.

    Link to video

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      #2

      I consider Trump's stance for free speech and against political correctness (wokeness et al) to be a legitimately held principle, not based on opportunistic politics.

      As far as claims that he's racist, sorry, but anybody participating in the weaponization of that idea without compelling evidence of it is on the wrong side of history and should be ashamed of themselves. But I do understand how easy and lazy and enticing it would be to have that hammer and have this guy you hate and oh do I swing it at his face???

      Education is extremely important.

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      • MikM Offline
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        Mik
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        #3

        i have always been baffled by the claims that he is a racist when the record sproves the opposite.

        But then I am baffled when I am labeled a racist too. Say, do you think it could just be a convenient weapon?

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          #4

          It's a conversational hand grenade and clears the table of rational thought.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
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            #5

            How do you square ‘of the highest integrity’ with all the stories of him stiffing small vendors?

            You were warned.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              How do you square ‘of the highest integrity’ with all the stories of him stiffing small vendors?

              LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
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              #6

              @jon-nyc said in About character, integrity, and being racist:

              How do you square ‘of the highest integrity’ with all the stories of him stiffing small vendors?

              Or suing elderly widows to try and force them to sell their home?

              The Brad

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              • KlausK Online
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                Klaus
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                #7

                "Racist" isn't among the main problems with Trump. Also, the word has become mostly devoid of meaning in modern conversation. It's the word progressives use to express disagreement.

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                • KlausK Klaus

                  "Racist" isn't among the main problems with Trump. Also, the word has become mostly devoid of meaning in modern conversation. It's the word progressives use to express disagreement.

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                  George K
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                  @Klaus said in About character, integrity, and being racist:

                  "Racist" isn't among the main problems with Trump. Also, the word has become mostly devoid of meaning in modern conversation. It's the word progressives use to express disagreement.

                  As someone said, "When everything is 'racist,' nothing is 'racist.'"

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #9

                    Today, Walker said that he has lost friends because of his support of Trump.

                    How pathetic is that...

                    ...of course, there's at least one member here (rarely visits any more) who stated that he will "defriend" anyone who is a Trump supporter.

                    So much for tolerance, I suppose.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      Well, one would never want to be friends with anyone who disagrees with them.

                      Pretty tribal, that.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        How do you square ‘of the highest integrity’ with all the stories of him stiffing small vendors?

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                        @jon-nyc said in About character, integrity, and being racist:

                        How do you square ‘of the highest integrity’ with all the stories of him stiffing small vendors?

                        There are many layers of managers and corporate wheels between the top dog and a small vendor.

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                        • LarryL Larry

                          @jon-nyc said in About character, integrity, and being racist:

                          How do you square ‘of the highest integrity’ with all the stories of him stiffing small vendors?

                          There are many layers of managers and corporate wheels between the top dog and a small vendor.

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                          @Larry said in About character, integrity, and being racist:

                          @jon-nyc said in About character, integrity, and being racist:

                          How do you square ‘of the highest integrity’ with all the stories of him stiffing small vendors?

                          There are many layers of managers and corporate wheels between the top dog and a small vendor.

                          Ah. So is the explanation that this is normal practice or that Trump didn't know/direct?

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                          • LarryL Offline
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                            Larry
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                            No one starts a 100 million dollar construction project planning to stiff a few small vendors. And no one who owns a company big enough to start a 100 million dollar construction project is out shopping for drapes.

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                              #14

                              Not getting paid on development projects is a known risk when dealing with developers. I’m not defending it but it is nowhere near as rare as it is being made out. He may have overreached on the Taj Mahal after great success with the prior two Atlantic City properties, but he was also blindsided by Black Friday and higher interest rates.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • HoraceH Offline
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                                Horace
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                                I think @jon-nyc has a personal story about a bank he worked for being shafted by Trump. Maybe jon can share it.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #16

                                  Not that I know of. But I was in the securities side, not commercial banking.

                                  By the way I don't think the idea that this is standard fare for a 100MM company holds water. He had a special reputation for stiffing people. Note that he was always dealing with foreign banks. US banks knew better. Maybe they got burned decades earlier.

                                  You were warned.

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                                  • HoraceH Offline
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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #17

                                    I thought you mentioned once in passing that you count yourself among those personally shafted by Trump.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • LarryL Offline
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                                      Larry
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #18

                                      His "special reputation" didn't seem to become all that special until after he said he might run for president.

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                                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #19

                                        Not true at all. You just didn't hear of it until then.

                                        US banks quit dealing with him ages ago.

                                        You were warned.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          Not true at all. You just didn't hear of it until then.

                                          US banks quit dealing with him ages ago.

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                                          Larry
                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          @jon-nyc said in About character, integrity, and being racist:

                                          Not true at all. You just didn't hear of it until then.

                                          US banks quit dealing with him ages ago.

                                          I googled that. I found that the NYT, WP, and a few other similar "news" sources made that claim, but then it quickly spiraled down into a quagmire of conspiracy theory nonsense that got crazier and crazier. Then I found where he had negotiated with several banks to save his company when the SHTF, but it seems that all were eventually satisfied, so I think this is another case of a story with a grain of truth, cherry picked to omit the parts that hurt the narrative, and pretty much just typical bull shit.

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