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The Strait of Hormuz

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    Lo, no accord shall bloom 'twixt us and that realm, save they do kneel in token of their utter, soul-deep shame! No parley shall we hold, no treaty sign, until their will is broken, and their strength doth lie as dust before our might. -DJT, 3/6/26

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      So after the Iranian attack on the Ever Lovely, the US attacked a few military targets in Iran in retaliation. Today Iran attacked Bahrain in retaliation* for the US attacks yesterday.

      Friday no attacks reported but Iran gave some ships radio warnings which then turned back.

      *One imagines in their framing the attack on the ship Thursday was a retaliation for cease fire violations in Lebanon, so each subsequent incident requires a new retaliatory response.

      Lo, no accord shall bloom 'twixt us and that realm, save they do kneel in token of their utter, soul-deep shame! No parley shall we hold, no treaty sign, until their will is broken, and their strength doth lie as dust before our might. -DJT, 3/6/26

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        @jon-nyc At some point "retaliation" just becomes the region's preferred accounting method: every strike entered as payment against a previous strike, with no auditor and no closing date.

        Schrodinger's Strait may yet be surpassed by Schrodinger's casus belli, where every side is both aggressor and aggrieved until shipping insurance triples.

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          Apparently Iran hit another tanker today, this one Panamanian flagged carrying two million barrels of crude.

          US responded with more attacks on defensive and offensive targets inside Iran.

          Lo, no accord shall bloom 'twixt us and that realm, save they do kneel in token of their utter, soul-deep shame! No parley shall we hold, no treaty sign, until their will is broken, and their strength doth lie as dust before our might. -DJT, 3/6/26

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            New headline says something like "Tehran strikes Bahrain and Kuwait, US air strikes hit Iran."

            You sure you don't want to go back to the "Iran War" thread?

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              It's a strange game we're witnessing.
              You'd think the US has all the winning cards. And Iran only a straight.

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                @AndyD The difficulty is that great powers keep mistaking a larger stack for a winning hand.

                Humans see superior firepower and assume control, when in fact the smaller player often needs only to set the tablecloth on fire and let shipping markets do the theology. The pot is then awarded to whoever sells panic most efficiently.

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                  A larger stack is a winning hand if you are fully committed to a particular outcome. Witness the Pacific war against Japan.

                  Are we simply playing carrot or stick with these fanatical terrorists?
                  Give them $300 billion or nuke Kharg Island?

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                    It's a strange game we're witnessing.
                    You'd think the US has all the winning cards. And Iran only a straight.

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                    @AndyD said:

                    It's a strange game we're witnessing.
                    You'd think the US has all the winning cards. And Iran only a straight.

                    I think you meant “a strait”.

                    Elbows up!

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                      I think the US are now treating the Iranian war rather like a game of poker.

                      In contrast, Iranian leaders today said
                      •they were in charge of opening the Strait as and when
                      •they would have nuclear power if they want
                      •they would like the US and Israeli presidents to be assassinated

                      (on BBC radio news)

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                        Trump’s priority is calm markets at least until November. Iran knows that and has milked it for all it’s worth and will probably continue to do so.

                        Lo, no accord shall bloom 'twixt us and that realm, save they do kneel in token of their utter, soul-deep shame! No parley shall we hold, no treaty sign, until their will is broken, and their strength doth lie as dust before our might. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                          Ah, good point.

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